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The Predators 2018, Building The Ultimate Xmass Grinches! WIP Making A New Head & Some Basic Sculpting.

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Stryker2011

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That is really impressive already (even if it isn’t complete). Looks just as good as any HT version.


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Peaches wrote:I smell evil in the air Very Happy  Your predator is looking fantastic!  But I'm sorry to say, not nearly as evil and frightening as those old 80's band boys, ROFL

I think you'll probably find they were as evil and frightening as they were talented...that would be zero.. Wink

Rogerbee wrote:He looks great!

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Thanks Roger!

dadrab wrote:Kicking some serious ass, now Chop.

I love it.

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Stryker2011 wrote:That is really impressive already (even if it isn’t complete). Looks just as good as any HT version.

that's high praise indeed! Thank you!

After spending yesterday sawing and filing all my resin armour parts I decided today that wasn't good enough and I wanted a movie accurate kilt/armour/butt flap, so I've spent the day doing that starting at 5am and just finished. Might be a bit long but better than too short, painted nails, crotch armour and some other parts too; I'm calling him done for now even though there's still the odd bit I want to do.. I forgot to give him his wrist blades until the last two pics, I guess you could say they were retracted.













































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Looking great. And thanks for the hint about using plasticine to keep joints from gluing.


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That’s just unbelievable...  

Without the WIP photos, it would be difficult for anyone to imagine what went into this.  

Magnificent work, sir.


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A real winner there. That back skirt is clever, nicely done!

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Hah, I love how the WIP for the skirt looks absolutly horrible, and the end result is just Shovellian perfection!
Like a reverse Predator.

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GubernatorFan wrote:Looking great. And thanks for the hint about using plasticine to keep joints from gluing.

Cheers GF! The plasticine just prevents the hot glue from getting into the gap in the split part of the pegs and acting as a lock.

PureEnergy wrote:That’s just unbelievable...  

Without the WIP photos, it would be difficult for anyone to imagine what went into this.  

Magnificent work, sir.

Thank you PE! I ended up (as usual) doing a lot more than initially planned! Laughing

Rogerbee wrote:A real winner there. That back skirt is clever, nicely done!

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Thanks Roger! Glad I didn't just settle for the resin parts.

Ovy wrote:Hah, I love how the WIP for the skirt looks absolutly horrible, and the end result is just Shovellian perfection!
Like a reverse Predator.


Thanks...WIP generally looks a bit rubbish as you have to start somewhere, well unless you're Da Vinci but even he obviously got bit lost design wise at times! Wink

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Keep up the good work!

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Rogerbee wrote:Keep up the good work!

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Doing just that! Back on the big guy now, cutting, shaping and glueing lots of rubber. He now has Godzilla's pecks! Laughing Since when do lizards have pecks? scratch





























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"Lizard pecks" made my day. Wink Looks like your new predator will soon have a buddy (or nemesis).


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Shades of KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN there!

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GubernatorFan wrote:"Lizard pecks" made my day. Wink Looks like your new predator will soon have a buddy (or nemesis).

Definitely nemesis I'd say this (pic below) is taking the 'brothers in arms' thing a bit too far.. Wink




Rogerbee wrote:Shades of KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN there!

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Is that a Star Trek reference? Sorry you lost me a bit there Roger Question

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Yeah, in Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan they gave him a massive chest with pecs like that Pred.

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Rogerbee wrote:Yeah, in Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan they gave him a massive chest with pecs like that Pred.

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Actually, that was all Montalban. He was in really great shape.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2017/09/10/ricardo-montalbans-chest-real-or-fake-star-trek-wrath-of-khan/603958001/


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Stryker2011 wrote:Actually, that was all Montalban. He was in really great shape.


Yes it was.

Here's a photo of Montalban when he was young.



He was ripped then, too.

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Ok, case closed, a more impressive bust than most of his female co-stars. The Pred still has his pecs, LOL!

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Okay, so that over explained that.. I did actually remember what he looked like just missed the connection not that there really is one unless you have a peck fetish like Trekies seem to.

Moving on.. building this guy to the best of my abilities with what I have and the limited reference pics out there, the movie scenes are quite fast, in the dark or both so even rewatching that might not help a lot. The weapons and armour like I've mentioned seem to be biomechanical mostly with some minimal hardware visible at all times, his overall silhouette also seems to change due to the armour expanding and retracting.















































The 'Predator Killer' suit brought to the humans by the FP to help fight any future HPs which is revealed in the last few minutes of the movie, kind of a cool crossover of Gundam with Predator designs meant to be worn by a human.





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Reshaped the shoulders making them smaller and getting rid of the ridged edges which I reused as collarbones. Also modded how the shoulders overlap the torso making the gaps less visible, it's just trial and error.






















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Looking good so far!

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Rogerbee wrote:Looking good so far!

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Thanks Roger! Annoyingly I can't just fill any gaps or sculpt new parts using milliput etc.. as it will just break off and crack, I need to order some liquid/gel black silicone.

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I'm sure you'll work it all out.

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Rogerbee wrote:
I'm sure you'll work it all out.

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Yeah it's just a jigsaw puzzle really.

Been working on his shin armour from the MacFarlane figure so it was solid plastic and needed a lot of dremell work done, still not finalised but you get the idea. I'd rather not waste the nice HT armour on his calves so will have to dig around for something else to fill the gaps there. Talking of which, I covered the gaps near his crotch and butt since he doesn't have a leather kilt/loin cloth either.












































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Tricky what to suggest for armour, all the Thai KO vinyl kits have shrunk and HT armour is expensive.

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Tricky what to suggest for armour, all the Thai KO vinyl kits have shrunk and HT armour is expensive.

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Not to mention impossible to find! Decided to use some latex tubing I made a while back for my War Machine Vengeance armour, looks pretty good. His head is now attached and articulated, working on his forearms right now.

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Cool one! Carry on old chap!

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Head attachment, heating the armour in boiling water then clamping with zipties (I could only find 5 silver ones so far) over the latex tubing I made as a gap filler.





I really hate this wallpaper! It's like a farmer shagged the 1970's!!



















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Zipties off (carefully removed so they can be reused) and glue with clamps on, we'll see hhow that holds when cured.
Spent a while pausing the movie to get better reference pics, especially of his weapons and armour, some of them shown below and full of spoilers.





Blade launcher and it's effects on a target





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pop up wrist cannon





Barbed grenade launched with a blade









Quite effective! This guy's already had his arm cut off, been set on fire with a human incendiary grenade and shot point blank in the head repeatedly which only seems to annoy him, his own grenade makes him a quadriplegic.





Good silhouette pic and pics of gauntlets and waist armour, skin texture etc..




















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Reminds me of Hulk Hogan in those pics. Yours is coming together now.

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Rogerbee wrote:
Reminds me of Hulk Hogan in those pics. Yours is coming together now.

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LOL, he does!

I'm second guessing his feet now after rewatching the fight scene with him again last night, they actually seem quite small in the movie scratch The MacFarlane ones are quite a bit bigger than the HT ones so thinking about using them; just wish they'd release some official renderings of him! Bloody hard work getting an overall visualisation of him in a fast pace action movie filmed mostly at night, oh yeah and he still has the cloaking invisibility trick too!! pale Built his forearms but questioning his hands now as well..
Thanks to Jazz's heads up I found the HC Toy Scar Predator for £65! He comes with all the weapons including the dagger and extending combi stick. I ordered the helmetless closed mandibles version (there are helmeted and unhelmeted open mandibles versions too) as I have plenty of helmets and will need to make a custom Chopper one anyway.



















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The feet in that still of the big guy remind me of Pumpkinhead, if you still have that SOTA figure they may come in handy, or was it Darkness you had!?

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Looking at the quality of the images, it is all the more impressive you can make such good sense of them to create your own super-detailed figure.


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The feet in that still of the big guy remind me of Pumpkinhead, if you still have that SOTA figure they may come in handy, or was it Darkness you had!?

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They do give off a goat leg like vibe in that pic but he's actually just standing on his toes in that particular shot, not sure why; just landed from a tree perhaps? But if you look closer you'll see his raised heels and anklebone spikes like a regular Pred's feet.

GubernatorFan wrote:Looking at the quality of the images, it is all the more impressive you can make such good sense of them to create your own super-detailed figure.

It's a bit of detective work, especially with so many conflicting reference pics out there, armour activated or not...weapons activated or not..etc.. I bet you images from the 'behind the scenes' glossy coffee table book they just released will be uploaded as soon as I finish him! I'd consider buying it but there's no guarantee there will be good pics of his final version, it might just be movie stills and concept art.

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Ah, I see, well, I never saw the movie and have no real desire to.

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shovelchop81 wrote:It's a bit of detective work, especially with so many conflicting reference pics out there, armour activated or not...weapons activated or not..etc.. I bet you images from the 'behind the scenes' glossy coffee table book they just released will be uploaded as soon as I finish him! I'd consider buying it but there's no guarantee there will be good pics of his final version, it might just be movie stills and concept art.

Ain't that always the case? LOL With Star Wars we're lucky there is so much, and so much of it has been out for a long time (especially for me, as I focus on the original stuff). But something brand new like this is an entirely different matter.


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Rogerbee wrote:Ah, I see, well, I never saw the movie and have no real desire to.

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Well turns out you were right and I was wrong according to this new pic I found, I've really got to be careful what I wish for!! Embarassed Laughing I think this is about as a finalised rendering as I'm going to get since it comes from a wiki on a Predator forum. He does indeed appear to be a digitigrade and not a plantigrade like humans; I guess it means he can run faster and more quietly (like those prosthetic sprinters legs or bouncy stilt things).



Well more work to do then! LOL




Thinking about doing one of the hounds and just saw this 12" long Kaju monster rotocast figure that could be a great base for one. They are based on Shane Black's Pitbull dog. Did you know SB has Tourette syndrome? That's why he gave Thomas Jane's character the affliction in the movie.

This is a collective video of the hounds' appearances in the movie, one gets accidentally lobotomised and likes playing 'fetch' with grenades! Very Happy Ignnore the music, has nothing to do with the film.

https://9tube.tv/video/55585148743878582d5f41.html

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All good fun! That Kaiju looks more like a terror dog from Ghostbusters. NECA did a hound from Predators that I think is around 1/6, maybe one of them could be modded, or maybe Mr Z did a Rottweiler.

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All good fun! That Kaiju looks more like a terror dog from Ghostbusters. NECA did a hound from Predators that I think is around 1/6, maybe one of them could be modded, or maybe Mr Z did a Rottweiler.

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I know about the NECA hounds, got five of them! Laughing 3 I modded with hoops in their flesh and chains for the HT Tracker Predator I bought loose (the HT hound was really expensive!) and 2 I completely rebuilt as Chinese dragon guards for my scratch built Mandarin figure (not a piece of HT on or near him, way before his release, major build that one!). The new style of hounds are huge! More like cows in size.









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Ohh, right, LOL! You will want bigger stuff then, not sure what to recommend in that case. I'm buying NECA multiples soon, Gremlins! Getting 3 of the Ultimate figure. That'll set me back £120, I know, they're getting expensive now. Mind you, I also want to get a life size one and they're over £200!

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Ohh, right, LOL! You will want bigger stuff then, not sure what to recommend in that case. I'm buying NECA multiples soon, Gremlins! Getting 3 of the Ultimate figure. That'll set me back £120, I know, they're getting expensive now. Mind you, I also want to get a life size one and they're over £200!

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The spider and bat versions are super cool! Always been tempted to pick those up... Wink

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You should if they're your thing, I'm actually more fond of the Gremlins from the first movie.

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You should if they're your thing, I'm actually more fond of the Gremlins from the first movie.

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I like them for their design aesthetics and mechanics, not for sentimental reasons, if it was just for nostalgia it would be Stripe and Gizmo.
Time to start making digitigrade lower legs......

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Sounds like a plan!

I get why Rick did what he did in Gremlins 2, but, the execution of the story could have been better. I would have understood the evolution of the Gremlins more if the lab had got hold of Gizmo much earlier. They could have been experimenting on him and then bred some of the Gremlins from other Mogwai for study and then they could have escaped. That would have made more sense to me. They looked far to different to the original ones for Gizmo to have spawned them in the time frame of the movie.

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Sounds like a plan!

I get why Rick did what he did in Gremlins 2, but, the execution of the story could have been better. I would have understood the evolution of the Gremlins more if the lab had got hold of Gizmo much earlier. They could have been experimenting on him and then bred some of the Gremlins from other Mogwai for study and then they could have escaped. That would have made more sense to me. They looked far to different to the original ones for Gizmo to have spawned them in the time frame of the movie.

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lol I can't even remember the movie let alone the plot of G2!

Busy dremelling up more bits of the MacFarlane donor figures to make the new lower legs, he'll be taller now which is good.
Fixed 'ankles/toes' were in different positions so had to correct that first.





































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I'm learning so much reading through this thread!

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Peaches wrote:I'm learning so much reading through this thread!

Oh good! I'm so glad as it's one my reasons for doing WIP threads so other members can discover new techniques along the way like I do.

I can't believe it, he can bloody stand!! Very Happy Shocked
Still plenty of work to do yet like hiding the 'chicken leg' knees under rubber so I can still have some articulation there for posing.













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I like the chicken legs, they make him look more alien. Smile


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GubernatorFan wrote:I like the chicken legs, they make him look more alien. Smile

It does indeed, funnily enough I'm quite used to figures with chicken legs since I collect movieverse Transformers! Laughing

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Sweet! I'm sure you'll get it all worked out. Must remember to get my Dremel out of the garage before I move. I gave it to my Dad but he's never used it.

On a Gremlins note, I was talking to Chris Walas, the guy that built them for the first movie, on FB yesterday. I wanted to see what he used to preserve latex as I'm thinking of getting a 1/1 replica of one of his Gremlins soon. He was using his own recipe and didn't know what commercially available stuff there was. Still, it was great to actually talk to him. He accepted my friend request too!

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Rogerbee wrote:
Sweet! I'm sure you'll get it all worked out. Must remember to get my Dremel out of the garage before I move. I gave it to my Dad but he's never used it.

On a Gremlins note, I was talking to Chris Walas, the guy that built them for the first movie, on FB yesterday. I wanted to see what he used to preserve latex as I'm thinking of getting a 1/1 replica of one of his Gremlins soon. He was using his own recipe and didn't know what commercially available stuff there was. Still, it was great to actually talk to him. He accepted my friend request too!

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Cool! Silicone airgun oil to protect rubber, natural and synthetic, I'm sure I've preached about it before! That's what it's designed to do, think of the incredible stress those seals go through at 3000psi!! or 250bar.

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Pics to show his size compared to the FP (that has human DNA traces BTW might explain his thin build and desire to give the humans a fair fight with the fancy armour he supplies them). Also the work I'm doing now to blend his new lower legs in using shaved down Godzilla skin (run out of the black latex I'd cast) to blend edges and cover the hinge while still allowing articulation. Plan to add an extra finger to each hand since they are one short, taking the fingers from the cheap hybrid alien (I bought it a while ago thinking it was 1/6 scale, it's not..).
















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