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41scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Tue May 01, 2018 1:31 pm

Rogerbee

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That was educational. I'll come to you guys when I need Star Wars tips!

I always found it ironic that the best matches for Rebel colours are all WW2 German colours and the Imperial ones are US.

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42scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Wed May 02, 2018 3:48 am

scalawag

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Rogerbee wrote:That was educational. I'll come to you guys when I need Star Wars tips!

I always found it ironic that the best matches for Rebel colours are all WW2 German colours and the Imperial ones are US.

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I'm glad you found it interesting Rogerbee Wink

Yeah there is a certain irony to the colour choices Laughing Laughing   I have always smiled at the idea of bad guys dressed in white armour too. Shocked its a fantastic cinematic concept.

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43scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Wed May 02, 2018 10:29 am

Rogerbee

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If you look in the new Tamiya mag, there's a company that are doing replicas of the original Floquil paints that ILM used. They're enamels though. This guy does at least do acrylics, never tried them yet though: http://www.starwars-doa.co.uk/

Might be worth a crack someday

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44scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Wed May 02, 2018 10:37 am

scalawag

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Rogerbee wrote:
If you look in the new Tamiya mag, there's a company that are doing replicas of the original Floquil paints that ILM used. They're enamels though. This guy does at least do acrylics, never tried them yet though: http://www.starwars-doa.co.uk/

Might be worth a crack someday

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Ooh. Those look nice. I can feel more spending coming on Laughing Laughing Laughing


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45scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Wed May 02, 2018 12:47 pm

shovelchop81

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Nice set of Sand Troopers! Ironically the only Sand Trooper I have on display is the only ANH one you don't seem to have, the SSC Orange pauldron 'leader' with the water cooled Lewis gun or was it Vickers? Anyway, the others are Hasbro so stored away if not cannibalised yet...

46scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Wed May 02, 2018 1:20 pm

scalawag

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shovelchop81 wrote:Nice set of Sand Troopers! Ironically the only Sand Trooper I have on display is the only ANH one you don't seem to have, the SSC Orange pauldron 'leader' with the water cooled Lewis gun or was it Vickers? Anyway, the others are Hasbro so stored away if not cannibalised yet...

Yeah its the Lewis gun type blaster that comes with that one with the orange pauldron. I don't have that one, or the "Corporal" with the black pauldron either yet. Stryker very kindly put me onto a Sand Trooper corporal in this thread which I am thinking about getting right now.

I'm glad you like these, and I think you should get your sand troopers back out mate, show them off!!!

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47scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Wed May 02, 2018 5:07 pm

Stryker2011

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Didn’t HT tease a new Sandtrooper Sergeant a couple years ago? Whatever happened to that?


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48scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Wed May 02, 2018 5:34 pm

scalawag

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Stryker2011 wrote:Didn’t HT tease a new Sandtrooper Sergeant a couple years ago? Whatever happened to that?

I can't say definitively that they didn't, but I don't recall one.

Paul

UPDATE

Having done a bit of looking around it appears that there was a Hot Toys Sand Trooper Sergeant on the SideShow stand at a show a few years ago.  It looks basically like the HT Squad Leader but with a white pauldron and a different blaster rifle.  It was displayed on the same base as the squad leader too, and I believe SideShow were showing it as they were to be the sole distributer.  It had a hand holding a metal ring like the trooper in the movie that says "look sir, droids" when they discover the crashed escape pod which would have been really cool.  Sadly there is no indication that it was ever shown more than once at promotional shows, and I don't think it was ever released.

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49scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Wed May 02, 2018 6:09 pm

Stryker2011

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Well... I blame you, Paul. It’s all your fault.


I broke down and bought the Sideshow Squad Leader off eBay just a bit ago, I like the look of that guy with his orange pauldron. Probably shouldn’t have, but at least one Stormie (Sand or other), seems appropriate.


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50scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Wed May 02, 2018 6:24 pm

scalawag

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Stryker2011 wrote:Well... I blame you, Paul. It’s all your fault.


I broke down and bought the Sideshow Squad Leader off eBay just a bit ago, I like the look of that guy with his orange pauldron. Probably shouldn’t have, but at least one Stormie (Sand or other), seems appropriate.

Hee Hee!!!  Gotcha Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

He is a great looking figure mate and I am sure you will love him when he arrives.  If you are only going to have 1 stormtrooper then what better than a Sand Trooper Cool Cool  

BUT will ya stop at one? Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

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51scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Wed May 02, 2018 6:28 pm

Stryker2011

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scalawag wrote:BUT will ya stop at one? Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

Paul

STOP your evil Dark Side Mind Tricks! Evil or Very Mad

I have to stop at one. Too many other things coming up. But, yeah. I think I’ll like this one. He looks cool.


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52scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Wed May 02, 2018 6:43 pm

scalawag

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These are the figures you are looking for!! lol Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil


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53scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Thu May 03, 2018 2:49 am

Rogerbee

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What's up with the brow on that HT Sandtrooper helmet? It looks really weird! Just thinking, the older Hasbro stormies are a similar size to the Bandai, could there be sandtooper bits you could pinch to put on the Bandai!?

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54scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Thu May 03, 2018 3:33 am

scalawag

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Rogerbee wrote:What's up with the brow on that HT Sandtrooper helmet? It looks really weird! Just thinking, the older Hasbro stormies are a similar size to the Bandai, could there be sandtooper bits you could pinch to put on the Bandai!?

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Yeah I see what you mean mate, it does look strange. It is raised up off the face plate like the HT squad leader one which makes it look more curved, but it also has a little kink or bump in the middle which seems to accentuate the curve. It is interesting as it does raise the possibility that this is a new headsculpt, and not the Squad Leader one reused as I suspected.
The Hasbro stormtrooper bits is an interesting idea, and worth looking in to.

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55scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Mon May 07, 2018 3:42 pm

Stryker2011

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Received my Sand Trooper Squad Leader today. Awesome looking figure. I'll put him together later and maybe post a pic if Paul doesn't mind (don't want to hijack his thread).


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56scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Mon May 07, 2018 4:45 pm

Stryker2011

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Well... here's my one quick pic. Really digging this guy.

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57scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Tue May 08, 2018 2:46 am

scalawag

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I don't mind at all mate post away. He does look fantastic, I'm still on the fence about getting the corporal as I just spent out on my 1-1 suit, but this is swaying me toward it again.
If I might suggest, the thigh armour needs pushing up the leg just a little bit, so you can see slightly more black at the knees.
I do love these guys.

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58scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Tue May 08, 2018 6:52 am

Stryker2011

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Ah. Cool. Thanks for the tip.


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59scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Tue May 08, 2018 9:47 am

GubernatorFan

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Nice acquisition, Stryker, he looks great, and I would say a fine addition to your SW collection.

Paul, did you just confess to getting the 1:1 armor? I hope we get to see plenty of that (remember, as long as you're holding 1:6 troopers etc in your hands while posing in it, it would be totally appropriate here). Wink

I can't decide whether it is good or bad how we are enabling each other with our posts. Smile


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60scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Tue May 08, 2018 10:15 am

Rogerbee

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He does look rather good!

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61scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Tue May 08, 2018 12:07 pm

scalawag

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GubernatorFan wrote:Nice acquisition, Stryker, he looks great, and I would say a fine addition to your SW collection.

Paul, did you just confess to getting the 1:1 armor? I hope we get to see plenty of that (remember, as long as you're holding 1:6 troopers etc in your hands while posing in it, it would be totally appropriate here). Wink

I can't decide whether it is good or bad how we are enabling each other with our posts. Smile

Well yes I did get a set of Shepperton Design Studios Battle spec armour. It arrived yesterday, so I have been busy padding the inside of the helmet so it will stay on my noggin, and a few adjustments/modifications I was advised to do. Boots and Holster arrived today, neck seal should be here by the end of the week, maybe even my first troop out on Saturday if I have everything reasonable by then.

I will have to arrange to get a friend round to take pics, as I really won't be able to in the armour lol.

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62scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Tue May 08, 2018 12:13 pm

Stryker2011

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That's going to be cool to see. (By the way, I did as suggested and moved the thigh armor up on my Sandie. Thanks.)


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63scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Tue May 08, 2018 12:21 pm

GubernatorFan

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Paul -- Congratulations. And you should invite some of our British members to come over and help out. Smile Or if you are meeting the troop anyway, I imagine there would be plenty of people who would be more than happy to help.


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64scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Tue May 08, 2018 4:47 pm

scalawag

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Stryker2011 wrote:That's going to be cool to see. (By the way, I did as suggested and moved the thigh armor up on my Sandie. Thanks.)

No problem mate, I hope it was helpful. I won't promise as to when but I will get pics up here for you to see as soon as I can Very Happy

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65scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Tue May 08, 2018 4:51 pm

scalawag

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GubernatorFan wrote:Paul -- Congratulations. And you should invite some of our British members to come over and help out. Smile Or if you are meeting the troop anyway, I imagine there would be plenty of people who would be more than happy to help.

Now there is an idea, I don't none which of my British OSF compatriots lives close by, but if anyone wanted to pop to see me (and my collection of course) I am sure something could be arranged.

I will sort out some pics anyway regardless, but I can't say when exactly I will be able to get some taken.

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66scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Wed May 09, 2018 2:50 am

Rogerbee

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I'm miles way I'm afraid, maybe further when I move. Would have been good though.

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scalawag

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Rogerbee wrote:I'm miles way I'm afraid, maybe further when I move. Would have been good though.

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That's a shame mate, it would have been really cool to meet up.

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68scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Wed May 09, 2018 9:40 am

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This is what this forum is all about: bringing people together on the basis of a shared passion (hobby, people, get you minds out of the gutter Wink ). Even if only virtually, most of the time.


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70scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Tue May 29, 2018 9:08 pm

Pontiacivan

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Just the right amount of crud on him!
He looks pretty good....lonely, but good. Very Happy

71scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Wed May 30, 2018 2:56 am

scalawag

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Thanks for the links Mark.  That looks a pretty accurate set of armour and at a good price too.  As I found out whilst researching my own armour, there is a lot of work that goes into building up one of these various armour kits which is why I went for a ready made set.  I have found that there is a lot of intensity from some around how to make a kit up, and how the strapping and the parts are all held together is done, particularly in the UK Garrison of the 501st legion who require your costume to be cleared by them before you go to their events Rolling Eyes   The group I joined are far more relaxed about it all, but I still want to have a suit that from the outside looks screen accurate.  I just changed the plastic belt for a more correct canvas one for example, but whether the suit is held together with press studs or velcro is neither here nor there for me Laughing

I am still working on getting some shots of me wearing the armour and with some of my 1/6 characters, but it is near to impossible to take photos whilst in the armour due to the restricted movement and vision.

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72scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Wed May 30, 2018 8:18 am

Stryker2011

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scalawag wrote:whilst in the armour due to the restricted movement and vision.

Paul

I guess that would explain why born and bred soldiers couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn, but a kid born on a farm could beat them easily. Razz


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73scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Wed May 30, 2018 8:43 am

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Interesting. Paul, I remember seeing somewhere that 501st Legion approval is based on whether the overall look is correct rather than whether the materials and underlying structure are movie prop-accurate. But perhaps I misunderstood, or the UK regulations really are more stringent. I mean, while you were part of the EU, there were regulations on the curvature of bananas, right? Sorry, just my attempt of a lame joke (though this has been held up to us as an example of silly EU regulation).


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74scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Wed May 30, 2018 9:01 am

scalawag

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Stryker2011 wrote:
scalawag wrote:whilst in the armour due to the restricted movement and vision.

Paul

I guess that would explain why born and bred soldiers couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn, but a kid born on a farm could beat them easily. Razz

Yeah definitely. You can't really sit down in it, you can bend forward a little bit but if you drop something there is no way you can pick it up easily. As far as vision goes well the Ewoks did so well because anything less than 3"6' in height can't be seen at all once it is closer than about 8" away and you have a bit but not much peripheral vision. oh yeah and that sight on the top of E-11 blasters, well its pretty much for show as you can't really see through it with the helmet on.

Its an experience to wear it thats for sure.

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75scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Wed May 30, 2018 9:10 am

scalawag

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GubernatorFan wrote:Interesting. Paul, I remember seeing somewhere that 501st Legion approval is based on whether the overall look is correct rather than whether the materials and underlying structure are movie prop-accurate. But perhaps I misunderstood, or the UK regulations really are more stringent. I mean, while you were part of the EU, there were regulations on the curvature of bananas, right? Sorry, just my attempt of a lame joke (though this has been held up to us as an example of silly EU regulation).

I think the UK Garrison is particularly pedantic about it. Here they look at every thing minutely even down to things like how the joints on the leg and arm pieces have been made, they have to be butt joints not lapped I believe.  That level of accuracy would be ok if I was deciding to do it for myself, but not when it is someone else telling me I have to have it that way  Laughing  

I'm not knocking them and I know that they do a lot of free work for charity, and produce some great research into the uniforms etc... but I think here in the UK they could be a little more inclusive.

I have talked to a couple of 501st members from other countries and they seem a lot more relaxed about things to be honest.  

I have no intention of joining the 501st here in the UK.  I was in a group that looked at authentic costumes in a similar way to the 501st do here when I was reenacting American Civil War a few years back.  I won't say that that sort of strict ruling on what is ok and what is not breads elitism, but I don't like the person I became when I was part of it.

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76scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Wed May 30, 2018 9:35 am

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Sounds like the same problem I ran into playing volleyball in a bar-league. Some teams were so anal retentive about every tiny rule, it took the fun out of it. I mean, seriously, we were playing on a bar league. Half the people playing were already a little drunk... “They hit that with the flat of their fingers, not the tips!” Yada yada yada! “Dude. He’s drunk. I’m surprised he hit at all.”


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77scifi - Sand Troopers (pic heavy) - Page 2 Empty Re: Sand Troopers (pic heavy) on Wed May 30, 2018 9:37 am

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Yep, that does sound too pedantic (and I say so as the self-styled emperor of the four corners of the pedantic universe -- perhaps I've been an impostor all along). Interesting that your have reenactments of the American Civil War (aka The War Between the States or The War of Northern Aggression). Must be interesting ... from a British point of view that ought to be just a bunch of bloody rebels fighting another bunch of bloody rebels. Smile


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Stryker2011 wrote:Sounds like the same problem I ran into playing volleyball in a bar-league. Some teams were so anal retentive about every tiny rule, it took the fun out of it. I mean, seriously, we were playing on a bar league. Half the people playing were already a little drunk... “They hit that with the flat of their fingers, not the tips!” Yada yada yada! “Dude. He’s drunk. I’m surprised he hit at all.”

Sounds horribly familiar sadly Shocked Very Happy

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scalawag

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GubernatorFan wrote:Yep, that does sound too pedantic (and I say so as the self-styled emperor of the four corners of the pedantic universe -- perhaps I've been an impostor all along). Interesting that your have reenactments of the American Civil War (aka The War Between the States or The War of Northern Aggression). Must be interesting ... from a British point of view that ought to be just a bunch of bloody rebels fighting another bunch of bloody rebels. Smile

Well I like my detail, and even having things correct where no one sees, but 501st UK stretch it that bit too far for me.  
I think too that they have a difficult relationship with Shepperton Design Studios due to their own links with Lucus Film and now Disney and the law suits which have gone on with Andrew Ainsworth.  
They certainly don't recommend SDS for anything, and I suspect I would have a hard time getting my armour through clearance simply because of where it comes from.  They ask the make of armour as part of the clearance process here.  

Still, instead of spending the next year building an armour kit to a minute level of film accuracy for clearance, i'm out trooping in a great set of armour anyway Laughing  Laughing  Laughing

I loved reenacting The War Between The States  when I was younger, used to bore people with the level of detail I would go into Shocked Shocked Laughing   I loved that it was photographed (although I learned quickly that the camera does lie Rolling Eyes )  and the diaries from the ordinary soldiers.  It meant you could build up a good knowledge about the life of the common soldier at that time.

You would think that Great Britain would see it as rebels fighting one another, but there are all sorts of political vested interests here in the UK at the time which make it very interesting if somewhat more complex a relationship.  But thats a discussion for another day and thread lol.

Now Sand Troopers?????

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Indeed! Didn't mean to add to the distraction. Sand Troopers, people! Smile


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Interesting discussion and I'm sorry I missed it. I know a few Civil War re-enactors and, while very nice people, they're a bit...how shall I put this gently...obtuse. They do get down to the minutia (or bogged in the damn weeds, where I come from) of everything up to and including the thread count in a blanket. That's a gear I ain't got...but harbor the same thoughts about organized religion, so no further elaboration is needed.

Just do the right thing and it'll all be OK.

I think it's great looking armor and pretty damn cool, to boot.

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blackpool

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very nice collection!!! I'm not enough a specialist to give any judgment over the helmets, but I defnitely appreciate the star wars props fest going on here!!!

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