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1TBLeague / Phicen M35 updated (photo heavy) Empty TBLeague / Phicen M35 updated (photo heavy) on Wed May 09, 2018 4:16 pm

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Update: I have posted the review and smaller selection of images in post 14 below.

Disclaimer: very photo heavy (over 70 photos).

Despite the long period of time that elapsed since their last base male body was released, TBLeague's M35 appeared so quickly after being announced, that I was a bit late to the party. And shooting photos and writing a detailed review took quite a while. You can find the review itself in post 14 below, but I took a ton of additional photos. You can see many of them below (some of them being larger and clearer versions of what was already included in the review).

Remember that M35 comes without any head sculpt, clothing, or accessories (besides the removable set of feet, three sets of hands, and two sets of genitals); everything else you see here has been added on for the photos; the body itself has been modified by painting the nipples for added realism.

SET 1: COMPARISON PHOTOS (4)

Here is the M35 body compared to its immediate predecessor, M34, and also to the previous three Phicen/TBLeague releases (M32-M34).

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SET 2: JOHN CENA AT THE GYM (4)

I had repainted this John Cena head and it matched the M35 body, so I figured this would make some sense. If the head is too shiny, that's the fault of Vallejo's matte varnish, which is not matte enough -- I've since repainted it again, this time without the varnish.

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SET 3: ARNIE ON THE BEACH (14)

Recreating a number of actual photos of Arnold Schwarzenegger exhibiting the results of his bodybuilding on the beach. Sand (or at least the kinetic sand I used) loves the silicone TBLeague bodies; I can't say the feeling is mutual.

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Then there are the series of photos of Arnie showing off on the beach in the company of at least three different ladies...

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SET 4: ARNIE AT THE GYM (6)

Recreating actual photos of Arnold Schwarzenegger exervising at the gym.

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SET 5: CONAN AND TERMINATOR (5)

Recreating a few frames from the movies. I have upgraded my custom Conan the Destroyer with the M35. Not sure how well my ambitious attempt to recreate the Terminator's arrival worked out, but the point is, the body can make the right pose. Now if it only had an additional pair of feet with bent toes... (this time I didn't substitute any from ACI).

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SET 6: THOR (6)

Reconstituting my custom non-superhero Thor (still played by Chris Hemsworth) with M35.

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Chris Pratt decided he had to bulk up, too... M35 works quite well with the HT Star Lord 2 head sculpt.

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SET 7: THESEUS AND THE MINOTAUR (6)

The non-movie-based Theseus (still played by Henry Cavill) uses an M33, while my custom Minotaur (uncredited) has been upgraded to M35. The scenes are based on ancient Greek art.

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SET 8: IVAN DRAGO (3)

I repainted the Hot Toys Ivan Drago head (and I have repainted it yet again since taking these photos), but it is still a little off. Perhaps it is that Hot Toys had still not perfected realistic head sculpts at the time it made it (Blitzway/DAM's Universal Soldier Andrew Scott was a much better rendition of Dolph Lundgen). It works reasonably well on M35, although in truth the head is a bit large and was designed to be used with a taller body. And yes, I don't have the right boxing outfit (the HT booted feet were too small anyway), so just imagine him as a MMA or UFC fighter.

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SET 9: DUTCH from PREDATOR (26)

Sometime ago I noticed that my Hot Toys Dutch figure had mysteriously broken at one knee. I tentatively repaired the damage, but have been thinking of finding a better permanent solution. Although M34 would probably be better both for appearance and articulation (as it will not fill up the tight clothing quite as much and therefore remain more poseable), I tried out the Arnie head, outfit and gear on M35. It worked remarkably well, although the fit is very tight, as might be expected. I suppose it helped that the camo shirt was sleeveless, although it still barely fit. The long pantlegs and sleeves of the overshirt/jacket show that it is possible to cram M35's muscles into such clothing, although it was admittedly designed for a type of muscular body to begin with. If I were going to use a TBLeague body as a permanent solution here, I will probably go with M34.

The first five photos convey an appearance only really seen in the "making of" footage, but would show off the body better.

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The remaining photos are all based on actual frames from the film, in chronological order. Why did I take so many? I got carried away with research and trying to replicate what we see on the screen. Why did I post so many of them? Not quite sure; it was hard to choose between them, especially as many came out pretty well.

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I hope this has been a good overview of the potential and possibilities with the new M35 body. Let me know what you think.

For more, you can also check out Adeno's review HERE and MarkEl's photos HERE.

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GubernatorFan

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I submitted the guest review a week ago, but it still has not appeared. When it does, I will update the link. In the meanwhile, here are all the extras (in the post above)...


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Very detailed and thorough review, Guv. Excellent Arnold posing. My one concern is the mismatch coloring on the hands and feet.


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Stryker2011 wrote:Very detailed and thorough review, Guv. Excellent Arnold posing. My one concern is the mismatch coloring on the hands and feet.

Thank you very much, Stryker. Of course the actual review is not yet up. If Michael doesn't include it in his Sunday evening release, I might just have to go on and put it up here.

In hand there doesn't seem to be much of a mismatch. I have noticed that the spot lights I use sometimes accentuate mismatches, although I don't think these are necessarily apparent in each and every photo. Maybe it is about how we perceive colors individually, or our computer screen settings?


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Yeah. I've found that too with photographs. What our eyes see is almost never what the camera captures. Different lighting situations have a huge impact on what the camera picks up, but the differing skin colors from hands and feet to the body is there, even if our eyes don't always perceive it. There's been plenty of times I think I've found a good color match for a head sculpt to a body, only to take a picture of it under natural, and flash, lighting, to find out I was WAY off. Damn cameras! Mad But then I realize... well, I'll be looking at it under either natural or artificial light, not through the lens of a camera, so what do I care. If it looks good under normal conditions, I can live with it.


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Allotropos

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fantabulous review and side by side comparisons !! I just picked up an M35 yesterday and it's a nice addition to my collection.


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Man! Those are some awesome photography Gubernator. It's really cool to see how versatile this body is, and you've shown that very well with various head sculpts. I just love the various scenes and themes, my two favorites would have to be the gym workout (the floor, wall, dumbbells and equipments all look really cool), and the Predator jungle scene (he just looks so badass!  Very Happy ).

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Stryker2011 wrote:Yeah. I've found that too with photographs. What our eyes see is almost never what the camera captures. Different lighting situations have a huge impact on what the camera picks up, but the differing skin colors from hands and feet to the body is there, even if our eyes don't always perceive it. There's been plenty of times I think I've found a good color match for a head sculpt to a body, only to take a picture of it under natural, and flash, lighting, to find out I was WAY off. Damn cameras! Mad But then I realize... well, I'll be looking at it under either natural or artificial light, not through the lens of a camera, so what do I care. If it looks good under normal conditions, I can live with it.

This brings up a good question -- should our color matching be good enough for normal conditions (whatever these are for us), or for photographing? Ideally both, but neither is fully under our control as it can vary. I do look for close matches, but I have given up on expecting absolute consistency.

Allotropos wrote:fantabulous review and side by side comparisons !! I just picked up an M35 yesterday and it's a nice addition to my collection.

Thank you very much and congratulations. I hope you have lots of fun with your new acquisition! Remember, the actual (textual) review is yet to be posted and I'll be updating this thread.

Fox915 wrote:Man! Those are some awesome photography Gubernator. It's really cool to see how versatile this body is, and you've shown that very well with various head sculpts. I just love the various scenes and themes, my two favorites would have to be the gym workout (the floor, wall, dumbbells and equipment all look really cool), and the Predator jungle scene (he just looks so badass!  Very Happy ).

Thank you very much, Fox. Sounds like I've done my job. Glad you like my makeshift gym (a slightly more developed version of what I had already shown before), and I'm rather proud of how the Predator jungle scene worked out. I tracked down photos of the actual Mexican jungle they used in the film, found a photo big enough to blow up for our purposes without becoming too grainy and had it printed out on matte paper, and then experimented with the Michael Crawford diorama shortcut (which works if you have enough suitable "floor" in the frame -- you let that curl horizontally on your surface, while leaving the rest of it as a backdrop).


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Thanks GubFan for the superb review.  Yours are always some of the best out there in terms of both content and photography.  Always a bit of humour in the photos as well.  Currently overwhelmed.  Let me digest and ponder.  ‘I’ll be back!’  ;-)

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MarkEl wrote:Thanks GubFan for the superb review.  Yours are always some of the best out there in terms of both content and photography.  Always a bit of humour in the photos as well.  Currently overwhelmed.  Let me digest and ponder.  ‘I’ll be back!’  ;-)

Thanks, MarkEl. Yep, it was a bit longish. And by all means, do come back! I hope the actual review (text) will be uploaded soon And if not, I'll put it on here myself. (Of course you have you own m35, so you don't really need a review to make up your mind.)


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Great review!

The real life difference between M34 and 35 is weapons grade steroids. I think it works best on Dutch.

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thanks alot for the detailes review. now im glad i skipped the m34, the legs felt off on that one. sad to see the biceps doesn't show upwards on vertain poses, rather to the front. but i guess those sacrifieces are to be made with seemless bodies.
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13TBLeague / Phicen M35 updated (photo heavy) Empty Re: TBLeague / Phicen M35 updated (photo heavy) on Sun May 20, 2018 10:46 am

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Rogerbee wrote:Great review! The real life difference between M34 and 35 is weapons grade steroids. I think it works best on Dutch.

Thank you! It worked pretty well on Dutch. For practical purposes, I think I would still use an M34 there (the M35 muscles are so big they might tear the sleeveless t-shirt's openings over time, and they get in the way of leg articulation when stuffed inside the relatively tight pants.

Tjolnir wrote:thanks alot for the detailed review. now im glad i skipped the m34, the legs felt off on that one. sad to see the biceps doesn't show upwards on certain poses, rather to the front. but i guess those sacrifices are to be made with seamless bodies.

Thank you! I agree, although I don't think any of us really noticed at first, the internal skeleton design, while excellent for general posing, is insufficient to achieve 100% realistic accuracy in terms of certain muscle turns, etc. Maybe that's why they say they are 90% accurate to human movement.


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Since the guest review still has not been posted at http://www.mwctoys.com , I am including the text and images below (most of these images you would have seen in the fuller set above).

Review of Super Flexible Seamless Male Body M35 by TBLeague
Overall Average Rating: 3.5 out of 4

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Introduction

Over a year since its previous super flexible seamless male body (M34) was a released, TBLeague (formerly known as Phicen) has come out with its next product of this type, PL2018-M35 (henceforth, M35). This is another super flexible seamless male body with a stainless steel skeleton covered by a flexible, yet durable, silicone "skin" or "flesh." M35 is a heavily muscled body, even more so than its predecessor M34. When M34 appeared over a year ago, I declared that it was what Phicen's customers had been waiting for; now it seems most of us will be upgrading many (if not all) of our custom Terminators and Conans and Thors, etc., with the new M35. For the earlier products in this line, you can consult my guest reviews of M30 and M31, M32, M33, and M34, also brought to you courtesy of Michael Crawford. A comparison photo of the last four bodies (M32-M35) appears at the end of this review. I took so many different photos, that only a small subset could be included here; to see many additional and/or larger photos, you can check out the original post above.

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Packaging - ***1/5
M35 comes in the familiar packaging for TBLeague base male and female bodies: a fairly compact glossy dark-colored cardboard box that holds the transparent plastic trays and cover. The box includes the usual manual sheet for the male bodies, the body, and its accessories. While the product's name is listed correctly next to the "item no." line on the box's cover, the cover itself features the stylized graphic that comes with female bodies, and indeed the text reads "super flexible female seamless body"; the bottom/back of the box, however, has the correct reference to the male body. This is hardly a big problem, but it is an embarrassing slip in quality or attention to detail. The box contains the correct male body and does its task of protecting it from damage -- my boxes shipped from China and were often partly damaged on the outside, yet the contents had remained in perfect condition. Everything inside is collector friendly.

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Sculpting - ****
Like the other modern stainless steel skeleton base bodies produced by TBLeague, M35 comes without a head sculpt. Therefore, "sculpting" refers to the shaping of the rest of the body. The hands and feet appear to be identical to those in the previous releases, M33 and M34, sculpted quite nicely and carefully, and featuring a good degree of detail -- veins, nails, separate fingers in some of the hand sculpts. The body itself also has a similar sculpt to M34, but the muscles are now larger, and additional definition and veins have been added. In some parts of the body (for example the back and abdomen), the detail is virtually the same as before, in others (especially the upper legs and calves) it has been revised and elaborated. While there may now be larger muscles and more definition, it should be pointed out that it is not everywhere as sharply sculpted as in M34 -- which is not to say that it is any less appropriate, and helps contribute additional distinction between the bodies. Overall, M35 is a palpably but not overly more muscular build than M34, still without going to the absolute extremes of modern bodybuilding.

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M35 measures 29.5 cm (11.5 in) up to the top of the metal neck joint, and a bit over 30.5 cm (12 in) with an added head sculpt, although the latter measurement would vary depending on the head sculpt, hairstyle, and position of the inside neck connector. All this makes M35 similar in height to and very slightly taller than M34. Note that the slightly taller stature and especially the bulkier musculature of M35 give it a higher center of gravity, and that makes it a little bit less stable in some positions. While it can usually stand safely on its own feet, sometimes it does take a tumble and can damage more fragile items in its path. If you plan on displaying it standing around for a long time, consider using a stand.

Both bodies make an excellent foundation for various action and super hero customs and kitbashes; in cases where M34 was still a little less muscular than needed, M35 can now be deployed.

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Paint - ***
Let me start by saying that there is nothing wrong with the paint, given that this is a base body. The paint is consistent and relatively appropriate, though very much a tan skin tone (although technically referred to as "suntan" and distinct from both the old and new "suntan" skin tones on Phicen/TBLeague's female figures). The color of the silicone flesh matches that of the harder plastic of the hands and feet very well, and it can also match many, if not all, sixth-scale male head sculpts produced by various companies. There doesn't seem to be any nuance in the skin tone, although the sculpt and the surface allow for some natural variation.

One obvious omission (presumably out of financial considerations) is the fact that the sculpted nipples remain unpainted, as in previous male seamless bodies in this line. This is contrast to what TBLeague does to its female bodies, and what other companies (e.g., ACI, Hot Toys, Kaustic Plastik, World Box) have done with their male bodies in cases where the chest is or could be exposed. (Interestingly, TBLeague did not skip painting the hair on the flaps intended to help attach the genitals to the body.) You can see the original appearance of the body in the box and accessories photos in this review; in the rest of the photos, I have painted the nipples with a mixture of silicone pigments and silicone glue, for added realism. At this price, however, one should not have to modify the product, especially one that prides itself on realism. Hence the loss of the fourth star in this category.

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Articulation - ***1/2
Like its predecessors, M35 is very well-articulated (or, as TBLeague puts it, super-flexible). The range of motion and the ability to hold poses is both very extensive and very impressive. The larger muscles do get a little in the way, but not much more so than with an actual human body, which ought to be the point of comparison; certainly a jointed hard plastic body sculpted with the same degree of musculature would not be able to compete with the silicone "skin" and stainless steel skeleton. M35 can flex, reach, stride, bend, and sit just like a human body in pretty much all natural poses; ankles, knees, elbows, and neck work perfectly (how the head tilts at the base of the skull, however, would depend on the type and depth of its inside neck connector). The only specific instance in which I have come to notice a palpable limitation in the articulation is the wrist: although it can rotate freely around its axis, it cannot bend quite as far as a human's. This is why I have taken away half a star from the rating although, all things considered, this is a very minor limitation.

With muscle bodies like M34 and M35 another limitation of these (or pretty much all) action figures becomes easier to notice: because the silicone "skin" is basically unattached to the underlying limbs of the stainless steel skeleton, some of the muscles do not always turn quite as far as they would on an actual human (since there are no real sinews and ligaments to pull them and hold them from the inside). But the problem is usually not particularly obvious, and here, too, most jointed bodies (especially muscular ones) are not likely to have an advantage.

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Accessories - ***
M35 comes with the same accessories (or one should really say spare/swappable parts) as M34: a total of three pairs of exchangeable hand sculpts (fists, relaxed hands, and gun- or sword-grip hands), a pair of detachable feet; and two sets of genitals concealed in semi-opaque small plastic bags. There is no stand. This selection is not very extensive, but it is reasonable; that does not mean it is optimal. ACI's base bodies, for example, not only included a couple of additional hands, but also an additional pair of feet with bent toes, allowing greater realism (and stability) in crouching poses. These bent-toes feet would have been a very welcome addition (TBLeague does include a second set of feet for high heels with its female bodies). TBLeague's competitor Jiaou Doll did include something along these lines with its male bodies, except that the toes were so slightly bent, that the extra sculpt was both basically useless and visually almost indistinguishable from the flat feet. The standard instructions sheet is included, with the company's name updated to TBLeague in the title (but still using "Phicen" in the text).

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Outfit - n/a
Technically a base body does not guarantee or even need the inclusion of any outfit. However, Phicen/TBLeague has spoiled us by including a basic outfit in the past, starting with M32, which came with an elaborate pair of yellow sports shorts. M33 and M34 came with underwear plus wrist and ankle bands. M35 comes with nothing. This is not only a letdown from an expectation TBLeague has set with its previous offerings, but also a palpable complication. As the largest and most muscular of these silicone-covered bodies, M35 is the hardest one to clothe: sixth-scale male clothing is even more difficult (and often impossible) to fit over the bulkier muscles. Clothing designed specifically for TBLeague figures (with their muscles and rubbery surface) is a bit easier to put on M35 successfully. As you can see in some of the photos, I succeeded in clothing it in the outfit of Hot Toys' Dutch from Predator, but remember that these were designed for a muscle body (albeit of a different type). Clothing with elastic waists (for example some types of pants and shorts for Mattel's Max Steel) also tends to work well enough. With some effort and patience (remember, the muscles are pliable), many seemingly impossible items of clothing can be made to fit; others, however, would be too small and might split or tear in the process. Note that the combination between the large muscles and relatively tight clothing could lead to possibly significant limitations in articulation.

As with earlier male bodies in this line, the TBLeague feet (while proportional) are a bit too large for most of the wearable sixth-scale footwear. I recommend using World Box feet for footwear that needs the foot inserted inside it; footwear designed to fit onto pegs instead does not usually present problems with the TBLeague bodies.

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Fun Factor - ****
While the promotional materials for M35 display it, like its predecessor M34, with Arnold Schwarzenegger head sculpts, it can be used for any number of heavily muscled characters. Depending on what you have lying around (or have compiled for the occasion) and what you can fit on it, M35 can be turned into a Terminator, Conan, Beastmaster, WWE or UFC fighter, boxer, soldier, or enforcer, and populate or channel a modern, futuristic, ancient, or fantasy environment. While it is fairly sturdy, the M35 body is not designed for the use of children; apart from any possible damage to the body, the detachable hands and feet could pose potential hazard.

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Value - ***
A base action figure body at this price point is not a bargain. But a base action figure body that is seamless, beautifully sculpted, and super flexible (yet surprisingly durable), and hasn't increased its retail price astronomically with each new release over the course of a couple of years may be a little different. Depending on where you look and whether shipping is included, M35 retails for anywhere between $70 and $110. Compared to the price range for M34 over a year ago, the lower end is identical, while the upper end is only $5 more; given the aggressive rise in prices for sixth-scale goods, this consistency is a welcome exception. Unlike my earlier reviews of Phicen/TBLeague male seamless action figure bodies, there is now another company, Jiaou Doll, which produces such products. When they first came out, they were being sold for a comparable price, which has since decreased somewhat. So far they come in only one (slimmer) body type (albeit in different skin tones), and they are a little inferior in quality and articulation to the TBLeague products.

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Things to Watch Out For -
Not much, but keep in mind the usual possible issues. Although I encountered no problems swapping the hands, they can be a little difficult to remove and it might be best to heat them with a blow dryer before swapping. Avoid posing the body in very extreme poses for a long time as a basic precaution. Similarly, unless you are ready to commit to a specific look, avoid clothing your TBLeague bodies in dark colors that might bleed and stain the body (especially black and dark blue or red; pleather is a frequent culprit); prolonged exposure or friction does tend to exacerbate the potential problem. The resulting stains might fade or be absorbed by the silicone body over time, and there are recommended fixes one might try, but better safe than sorry and proceed at your own risk.

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Overall - ***1/2
M35 continues the tradition of TBLeague excellence in well-articulated seamless bodies, both male and female. While the absence of some additions outlined above is a continued missed opportunity, the product itself is attractive, versatile, and of high quality. M35's appearance and flexibility make it an excellent base for any number of customs and kitbashes or upgrades. While they could be improved further, TBLeague's seamless bodies remain, in my humble opinion, the best action figure bodies in this scale, and M35 is a fine addition to this array. One can only hope for additional variety and improvement in the future.

Score Recap (out of ****):
Packaging - ***1/2
Sculpting - ****
Paint - ***
Articulation - ***1/2
Accessories - ***
Sound Feature - n/a
Light Feature - n/a
Outfit - n/a
Fun Factor - ****
Value - ***
Overall - ***1/2

TBLeague / Phicen M35 updated (photo heavy) M3513a10

Where to Buy
Online options include these (some of them still preorders) :

Big Bad Toy Store for $80

Cotswold Collectibles for $80

Monkey Depot for $80

Timewalker Toys for $80

and on eBay various prices HERE

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I have reviewed the earlier Phicen/TBLeague male seamless bodies on this site: M30 and M31, M32, M33, and M34. For many additional and/or larger photos of M35, you can check HERE.

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Thanks for the actual text on this extremely detailed review. The amount of work you put into this is very informative. I'm still waiting on mine, unfortunately.


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Stryker2011 wrote:Thanks for the actual text on this extremely detailed review. The amount of work you put into this is very informative. I'm still waiting on mine, unfortunately.

Welcome! Glad you liked it. If you pre-ordered from domestic sellers in the States, it is not surprising yours are still on the way (although some eBay sellers that say they're in the States do seem to have had them fairly early -- but for higher prices). I expected that, so once I saw it was out, I ordered from trusted sellers in China on eBay. At any rate, I'm pretty sure you'll be very happy with yours when you get it/them.


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I just had to try this before putting the body away.

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WOW . . . that's a lot to unpack.

I don't know, but I have this sudden craving for a foot long or maybe a kielbasa.

I really need to get some M35s, but my only caveat is . . . a bigger/longer junk was a missed opportunity.

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Thanks, DFC! And LOL. I am not sure why you keep supposing that M35 is in any way insufficiently provided for.


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Don’t they shrink with steroid abuse? Or is that a myth? Razz


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LOL @Stryker. Interesting point. And, one might add, they are said to not always be proportional to the rest of the body's size and proportions.


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GubernatorFan wrote:they are said to not always be proportional to the rest of the body's size and proportions.

That’s what she said. Embarassed


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Don’t they shrink with steroid abuse? Or is that a myth? Razz
well' the testicles do shrink due to the testosterone level being far beyond normal. no need for the body to produce its own
tiny amount in comparison. the rest stays the same though, even benefits from the testosterone if you catch my meaning. plus once you're off the cicle and the natural production switches back on, they grow back to normal size, while you lose a lot of expensive muscle mass..... never heard a big guy complaining about tiny balls instead of tiny *insert muscular body part here* though, so guess whats more important Wink

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Tjolnir wrote:
Don’t they shrink with steroid abuse? Or is that a myth? Razz
well' the testicles do shrink due to the testosterone level being far beyond normal. no need for the body to produce its own
tiny amount in comparison. the rest stays the same though, even benefits from the testosterone of you catch my meaning. plus once you're off the cicle and the natural production switches back on, they grow back to normal size, while you lose a lot of expensive muscle mass..... never heard a big guy complaining about tiny balls instead of tiny *insert muscular body part here* though, so guess whats more important Wink

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I was going to say the same thing, DFC... Thanks for clearing this up, Tjolnir, slightly disconcerting as it might be. Smile


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"The things you learn in 1:6 discussion groups"

well we want to display our figures as accurate as possible after all, don´t we Laughing


the figure is a no brainer for me, as soon as my wallet is ready for it of course.

next i hope for an accurate 1/6 markus rühl Smile

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Tjolnir wrote:next i hope for an accurate 1/6 markus rühl Smile

So, shorter, bumpier, and veinier? Smile
If you are looking to make Markus in particular or some other current bodybuilder, that would make good sense indeed. I get these (theoretically) for ancient warriors and the like, so I actually appreciate that they are not super muscled or veiny (though M35 certainly steps into that category). In fact, I am looking forward to a revisited M33 (with a greater unaided height -- no silly hard plastic ankle additions), and of course (is this ever going to happen) different skin tones. Similarly with the female bodies, though there at least they seem to be doing some petites already.


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Hopefully it's just a matter of time before we get something other than pale and suntan. I mean, at the very least, TBL could do a Grace Jones "wannabe", which would still fall within their niche of near-naked hot women.


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Stryker2011 wrote:Hopefully it's just a matter of time before we get something other than pale and suntan. I mean, at the very least, TBL could do a Grace Jones "wannabe", which would still fall within their niche of near-naked hot women.

I agree completely, but I am afraid we'd have to wait for a boxed set. Now that I'm experimenting with painting the seamless bodies with oil pastels, I picked up a couple of black heads to try to match. But when I was looking at the offerings, they were all male. The only 1/6 scale female black head sculpt (unless you count the old, rare, and quite light-skinned Phicen Halle Berry -- and I am not counting Barbies) is the Threezero Michonne, with the problematic hair. Since I am not at all attached to that character or show, I wasn't ready to go for that (and in fact don't recall coming across it). My point is that, apart from TBLeague's other priorities, at present there don't seem to be many (not to say any) female black head sculpts out there that could be matched with any potential female black seamless bodies (and, besides, the range of skin tones is quite large and matching may be a big problem even if there were some). That's why, at least at the beginning, it would have to be a boxed set, with a matching head and all.


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Actually if you just look under "1/6 female head sculpts", I've seen two AA female heads that look to be custom made; they aren't all that inexpensive, and you have to go through page after page of the usual suspects to find them, but they are out there. But as you said, without a body to match them to, it seemed rather odd that someone would offer them. I guess if you wanted a jointed body, painting those isn't all that complicated (I've done the exposed parts of a jointed body with no problems).


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Stryker2011 wrote:Actually if you just look under "1/6 female head sculpts", I've seen two AA female heads that look to be custom made; they aren't all that inexpensive, and you have to go through page after page of the usual suspects to find them, but they are out there.

Do you mean the Mia and Jonae custom head sculpts? Not really ready to buy them, least of all at those prices.


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Fantastic review GF. All of your points and rankings are spot on. I like how you docked TBL over the nipples. Really, how difficult would that be for them to do?

If I had to pick anything, my fave thing about M35 is the slightly lighter colour. It just looks so much better than the others in a line up, and its muscular and vascular definition are easier to notice and appreciate.

I've had a few 'bounce back' issues with the silicone when posing. For instance when curling the arms up into a bicep display, the forearms tend to pop back down due to all that silicone. Pretty minor issue really.

I wonder what M36 will be.

Tjolnir

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So, shorter, bumpier, and veinier?

there you go, now i learned something new =) never checked his height, but yeah he seems only 1,78m, roughly 5´8" in height.

rather thought of a fist of the north star raider build with his physique in mind, you know the kind where humungus from mad max still looks to "skinny"  Very Happy

still a bit on the post apocalyptic vibe right now.

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MarkEl wrote:Fantastic review GF.  All of your points and rankings are spot on.  I like how you docked TBL over the nipples.  ... I've had a few 'bounce back' issues with the silicone when posing.  For instance when curling the arms up into a bicep display, the forearms tend to pop back down due to all that silicone.  Pretty minor issue really.

Thank you very much MarkEl! And I agree. As I wrote in the review, arguably a real person can only flex so far if they have muscle mass this bulky.

Tjolnir wrote:There you go, now i learned something new =) never checked his height, but yeah he seems only 1,78m, roughly 5´8" in height. Rather thought of a fist of the north star raider build with his physique in mind, you know the kind where humungus from mad max still looks to "skinny"  Very Happy

I had to look it up too -- the name rang a bell but I didn't remember any details. There is something to be said for super musculature, although there you might as well have a significantly larger size (like for a Hulk). My personal priority is (generally) more realistic (therefore more average to ideal) people.


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Paint matching and first examples of imperfection

I was asked about the paint I used to match the skin tone of the M35 body in the cases where I customized. So here is a mini presentation.

I use Vallejo acrylic paints when I can. My first attempts (over a year ago) ended up either too pinkish or too yellowish. This time around I mixed Cork Brown with smaller amounts of Dark Vermillion and Iraqui Sand.

TBLeague / Phicen M35 updated (photo heavy) Tblm3510

Phicen's male suntan is in fact pretty tan (unlike the female versions, especially the "new"). Depending on the amount of the paints you mix, you will end up with a color close to, slightly darker than, or slightly lighter than the actual skin tone of the body (this can also depend on the light you use; my task lights tend to exaggerate color differences). I tried it out a few times, and at least some of my results were spot on. Then I ruined everything by applying Vallejo's matte varnish, which was not nearly matte enough. Then I repainted everything. With the multiple layers of paint (I was too lazy to remove them and start from scratch), the surface remained soft enough to be easily scratched when accidentally hit or scraped by other hard objects. So more repainting was required. Unable to match the previous coat perfectly, I had to repaint the whole head rather than just the damaged areas. And now I have to be more careful. With so many layers of brushed-on paint, the head acquired more texture which is (or at least I am telling myself it is) a good thing, considering the much shinier smoother surface I had started with. Call it weathered or aged or realistic.

TBLeague / Phicen M35 updated (photo heavy) Tblm3511

Finally, I've encountered the first minor quality problems with this body. Both are hopefully going to be rare. In one instance, the hole on one of the feet is apparently slightly enlarged (possibly damaged) and the foot comes off the ankle peg far too easily. That can possibly be repaired by applying some coating of clear parts cement (I learned that trick from DFC) or other glue to tighten the fit; at any rate I have permanently relegated one of the M35 bodies to my custom Conan, and can borrow the feet he's not using.

In the other instance, I discovered a tiny hole just above the right elbow on one of the M35 bodies. I don't know when or how that appeared. The natural suspicion is that the skeleton poked the hole from the inside, although I don't think the male stainless steel skeletons have a sharp enough part right there, and can't really feel it by touch. I am not going to worry about it, since my experience flaying a Phicen/TBLeague silicone seamless body confirmed that these are quite resilient and even if we encounter tears, they are probably not going to open up much by themselves.

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Damn man, that's a hell of a review. I loved all the pics. Not only were they a ton of fun, but really show off the versatility of this body. And seeing it side by side, you really do show the difference from the M34. I think I need to swap my Conan out to the M35, and then the old M34 will go to a custom Thor I want to do. And I'll definitely need one of these for a truly hulking wastelander.


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ReverendSpooky wrote:Damn man, that's a hell of a review.  I loved all the pics.  Not only were they a ton of fun, but really show off the versatility of this body.  And seeing it side by side, you really do show the difference from the M34.  I think I need to swap my Conan out to the M35, and then the old M34 will go to a custom Thor I want to do.  And I'll definitely need one of these for a truly hulking wastelander.  

Thank you very much, ReverendSpooky! Glad you liked it. Conan does look better with an M35 (though technically M34 wasn't under-muscled for him), but why doesn't Thor deserve one too (I assume you saw my Set 6 of the first posting above). Without being completely perfect, these super flexible seamless bodies are pretty damn awesome. Smile


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I used the 34 for my Conan because I knew the pants would have been difficult/impossible to get on the 35 (mine should be here tomorrow), and the 34 looks perfect with just the upper half exposed. The 35 is going full nude (junk and all) for Lady Death’s plaything.


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Stryker2011 wrote:The 35 is going full nude (junk and all) for Lady Death’s plaything.

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I salute the M35.

Given Lady Death is a personification of "death", etc.

I suspect the M35 will go down rigid and stiff while he expires while turning rigid and stiff and with a smile on his face.

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Stryker, don't you know better than riling up DFC? Smile
I wish I could report to you on how the Conan pants fit on M35 (if at all), but I did not attempt this look. The one photo above that looks like he is wearing them (based on how he appeared in that scene in the film) is purposefully cropped so that you can't see that he's not wearing those pants. After lacing up the boots and everything, I really didn't feel like undoing everything to try getting these pants on. That does not mean they don't fit. I know they did fit on M34, though I don't recall how easily.
PS: I am assuming you are referring to the pants that came with the first barbarian fantasy warrior from Kaustic Plastik.


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Yep. I should have known better than to feed Chung’s pervy side. Very Happy

And yes, I’m referring to the Kaustic pants; it was a tight fit even on the 34, the 35 would probably require some serious work, and a lot of swearing, to get them on over those thighs.


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Stryker2011 wrote:And yes, I’m referring to the Kaustic pants; it was a tight fit even on the 34, the 35 would probably require some serious work, and a lot of swearing, to get them on over those thighs.

Patience and swearing seem to be two of the most important tools for our hobby. Smile


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GubernatorFan wrote:
ReverendSpooky wrote:Damn man, that's a hell of a review.  I loved all the pics.  Not only were they a ton of fun, but really show off the versatility of this body.  And seeing it side by side, you really do show the difference from the M34.  I think I need to swap my Conan out to the M35, and then the old M34 will go to a custom Thor I want to do.  And I'll definitely need one of these for a truly hulking wastelander.  

Thank you very much, ReverendSpooky! Glad you liked it. Conan does look better with an M35 (though technically M34 wasn't under-muscled for him), but why doesn't Thor deserve one too (I assume you saw my Set 6 of the first posting above). Without being completely perfect, these super flexible seamless bodies are pretty damn awesome. Smile

What's up GubernatorFan, you getting a cut of those M35 sales!? Lol. Razz

No, I really do love all of the phicen stuff, and they've been a real game changer for me. And like you said, the M34 isn't necessarily under muscled. I think the M35 just conveys even more intensity. For Thor, he's huge, but he's a god, so a lot of his strength is kinda magical. And he's a bit laid back in a lot of ways, until he needs to get serious. But for Conan, a huge part of his character is just this crazy intensity. Howard always described him like a giant jungle cat, tense and ready to strike. So I think that the M35 more conveys that tense, rippling physique, in a way that isn't as necessary on Thor, or at least not in the same way.

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ReverendSpooky wrote:What's up GubernatorFan, you getting a cut of those M35 sales!?  Lol.  Razz

Alas, no. I have no contact/influence with or rewards from TBLeague. If I did, I might have seen to more improvements and variations. Smile

But, yes, if you are keeping to just one M34 and one M35, I can't fault your logic. I couldn't stop at one. And since I will be trying out color modification on actual bodies soon, I think I need to get even more.


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