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Marathon LOTR/TH WIP Custom Builds..Reaper/Rider Wraith Redone & Finished.

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The eye looks great now. It's another one where it all comes together at the end. Well done.

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Whoa, that eye looks awesome! Nice job on the rewiring.


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GubernatorFan wrote:Thanks for the gorgeous close-ups. The eye looks lighter and brighter, so I think it was worth it. And glad you found suitable batteries.

Rogerbee wrote:The eye looks great now. It's another one where it all comes together at the end. Well done.

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Stryker2011 wrote:Whoa, that eye looks awesome! Nice job on the rewiring.

Thanks guys! Those AAA batteries are only running at 1.2v so should be even better when I get some fresh ones! Pauldrons, weapons and throne next, perhaps a palantir too?

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Not to change subjects, but I know you like your Iron Men (I remember your Hulkbuster), and I just received my black knockoff version (by HH; I don't know what "mark" it is). I don't know if you are familiar with it, but if you are looking into using it for more kitbashes and customs down the line, the wrongly-mounted lower arms are really easy to fix: one simply pulls gently but firmly at the elbow, detaching the elbow+lower arm from the upper arm, and then swapping them (and swapping the hands, obviously). I was so pleased with the easy fix, I went ahead and ordered the red and gold versions too (Mk 43 and 42). With your magic touch these would be every bit as good as the overpriced versions in no time. If it wasn't for this very affordable alternative, I would have never gotten any.
HERE is a review of the red one.


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GubernatorFan wrote:Not to change subjects, but I know you like your Iron Men (I remember your Hulkbuster), and I just received my black knockoff version (by HH; I don't know what "mark" it is). I don't know if you are familiar with it, but if you are looking into using it for more kitbashes and customs down the line, the wrongly-mounted lower arms are really easy to fix: one simply pulls gently but firmly at the elbow, detaching the elbow+lower arm from the upper arm, and then swapping them (and swapping the hands, obviously). I was so pleased with the easy fix, I went ahead and ordered the red and gold versions too (Mk 43 and 42). With your magic touch these would be every bit as good as the overpriced versions in no time. If it wasn't for this very affordable alternative, I would have never gotten any.
HERE is a review of the red one.

I've been after one of those black MK42's for a year now! Can you please post me a link of where to buy one? Thanks!! Tried ebay, amazon, ali etc.. but could only find red ones.

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pm received, cheers GF!

Pics with all the flames and eyes light up under light, no light, flash, partial light etc.. still want fresh batteries though for all lights. Pauldron work done too, had to make a peg look like the other spike with files and a scalpel which was interesting, Milliput is drying.

























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That turned out so cool. I can’t wait to see him with the Nine.


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Beautifully done. Almost complete now, no? Smile


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Stryker2011 wrote:That turned out so cool. I can’t wait to see him with the Nine.

GubernatorFan wrote:Beautifully done. Almost complete now, no? Smile

'Getting there' Wink should be a weapons and pauldrons day. I need to clean the glass for the table to display them on too, reminds me of chores as a kid...yuck! Suspect

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Though the word might be incorrectly and overly used, I believe "epic" truly describes this build, and the series, for that matter.

Tolkien would be proud.

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dadrab wrote:Though the word might be incorrectly and overly used, I believe "epic" truly describes this build, and the series, for that matter.

Tolkien would be proud.

Thanks dadrab! Spent all day battling with a stupid British curtain rod system, reversing the pull cord system so I can have my table where I want it to display these guys. Also completely striped a gas boiler power unit for parts that I hoped would help make the throne, not sure these parts will but the aluminium ducting material will make a good base when cut and bent to shape. I also found some Skeleflex boxes/containers in my storage room that will be cool for the throne and Iron Man dio projects too.

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Got the table together and in place at last, had to reverse the the bloody curtain pull string mechanism so the table could be where I wanted it. Looked a lot easier than it was since I'd never done it before, had bloody pulleys and meters of string all over the place before I realised you needed to disconnect one of the shuttles/carriers/leaders to do it and didn't need to take the whole f**king thing apart to do that! Anyway all done now. Been amassing a big pile of parts to make the throne out of which includes a real 'caution, man lifting heavy umbrella' sign I found dumped outside by the council.



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The table looks very nice... and so does your collection.


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GubernatorFan wrote:The table looks very nice... and so does your collection.

Thanks GF! Not a bad turnaround for a 'piece of garbage' someone had thrown out! Got all the Wraith on it now, think I'll position them in a ring around Sauron to save on real-estate (which ironically is quite appropriate! Wink ) so my Hulkbuster and other centre piece Iron Man figures can have the other half of the table.
Batteries arrived today and so did a large chain mail handbag I bought second hand on ebay, not to go cross dressing with (I'll leave that to DFC) but to strip apart and use as mail like I did on the Gondorian Wraith for Sauron's kama etc.. then have lots left over for other builds. There's a really nice shade of purple as a liner material too which will come in handy for a future build since I actually didn't have any purple material until now, odd. Anyway painting the pauldrons, took pics of my pile of stuff to make the throne with next and modded the sleeves on his robes, I'll lengthen the hem line too so it drags on the floor in tatters.















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It would never have occurred to me that you would get a chain mail purse for crossdressing. I should hope you dont's do that ever -- knowing how thoroughly you customize things, you're liable to slice (or Dremel) off something vital. Smile


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I’m curious to see what you do with the chain mail.


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GubernatorFan wrote:It would never have occurred to me that you would get a chain mail purse for crossdressing. I should hope you dont's do that ever -- knowing how thoroughly you customize things, you're liable to slice (or Dremel) off something vital. Smile

Laughing That's transgender not crossdressing! Not my thing either, my long grey beard would be a bit of a giveaway! Wink

Stryker2011 wrote:I’m curious to see what you do with the chain mail.

Well like I said, it'll be used similarly to the Gondorian wraith, it's going to take a lot of work though carefully cutting all the stitching away for the liners and then using two pairs of pointed nose pliers to undo each four pronged link and then reattaching/closing them for a figure this big!

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Finished painting and mounting the shoulder pauldrons which help with his head's proportions, the mail I'll add to his hips later will help fill out his lower half visually as there will be more and slightly wider placed silver there. I decided to attach the chains to his abdomen armour as it just made sense cosmetically and practically since they don't burn, they also allow abdominal crunch articulation but reign in his upper sideways rotation which just broke up the sculpt and put unnecessary strain on the EL Wire. I also spent most of the night/morning taking that bag apart for the mail that still needs to be separated; got some nice purple material now though for something else. The robe will be extended with the black material shown below it.















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He is looking ace! The flames really set him off now. Glass tables worry me. I wouldn't have the balls to stand one where you have. Visions of shelf diving figures would keep me awake! Mine had a habit of doing so spontaneously as well.

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Rogerbee wrote:He is looking ace! The flames really set him off now. Glass tables worry me. I wouldn't have the balls to stand one where you have. Visions of shelf diving figures would keep me awake! Mine had a habit of doing so spontaneously as well.

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LOL! I use stands for all my figures and that glass is really thick! The Hulkbuster is on it now with another 15 figures including heavy bases. The glass weighs a tonne, just glad I managed to get it on there by myself to be honest! Wink

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Man, that is looking sweet! That flame effect under dark lighting is really creepy. (You need to get some rest now).


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It is looking gorgeous. Those chains were an excellent idea, adding further detail to the pauldrons and chest. If you have more to use, I'd say consider adding a second, if not a third set.


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Stryker2011 wrote:Man, that is looking sweet! That flame effect under dark lighting is really creepy. (You need to get some rest now).

Cheers Stryker! Had a nap now.

GubernatorFan wrote:It is looking gorgeous. Those chains were an excellent idea, adding further detail to the pauldrons and chest. If you have more to use, I'd say consider adding a second, if not a third set.

Nice idea! A bit like what I did with the Reaper Wraith then? Sadly don't have anymore but must be able to find some of the same on ebay to order by the meter.

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Yes! Exactly -- something like that, except the chains would reach to and go on the Pauldrons (that way you can add more detail there, especially around the top part). I think it would look great.


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That was fast! More detail on the pauldrons? not sure there's any room! Laughing I had been thinking about adding small skulls on the pikes though, just forgot! When I say small they would be more like 1/10 rather than 1/6 but painted silver they could be construed as decoration rather than real skulls per say.

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And since you like the new Star Wars trooper types, check out the new HT Patrol Trooper thread.


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GubernatorFan wrote:And since you like the new Star Wars trooper types, check out the new HT Patrol Trooper thread.

I was just about to! Added more pauldron ideas in the post above.

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shovelchop81 wrote:

LOL! I use stands for all my figures and that glass is really thick! The Hulkbuster is on it now with another 15 figures including heavy bases. The glass weighs a tonne, just glad I managed to get it on there by myself to be honest! Wink

That's fine then. I remember my Mum got some mugs from a jumble sale once, they were knock off Pyrex and they spontaneously shattered while sitting in the cupboard. Could have been nasty had someone been holding them while full. So, I'm a bit wary of glass stuff.

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Rogerbee wrote:
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LOL! I use stands for all my figures and that glass is really thick! The Hulkbuster is on it now with another 15 figures including heavy bases. The glass weighs a tonne, just glad I managed to get it on there by myself to be honest! Wink

That's fine then. I remember my Mum got some mugs from a jumble sale once, they were knock off Pyrex and they spontaneously shattered while sitting in the cupboard. Could have been nasty had someone been holding them while full. So, I'm a bit wary of glass stuff.

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If you stack glasses etc.. they will explode on their own due to gravity putting stress on the lower ones from the ones above then it's like dominoes, ask any bartender, perhaps that's what happened?

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Some pics of the mail idea, not cut all the way in these pictures yet, I say cut as I managed to cut lines down the mail using wire snips which saved a lot of time! I found some more chain, ironically on a 1:1 version of the 'One Ring'! Laughing I had a spare too so the one in the display box didn't need a chain, only the one I have hanging over Sting's crossgaurd does. It's a bit smaller but the same style of links and quite long. Some pics of the skulls too. Everything is in the spraybooth drying now and I'm finally watching 'Avengers Infinity War' after catching up with the other movies recently.















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I like it all!


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That looks cool. I must say when I read you were thinking of adding skulls to the pauldron spikes I was skeptical, but that looks creepy (awesome).


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shovelchop81 wrote:

If you stack glasses etc.. they will explode on their own due to gravity putting stress on the lower ones from the ones above then it's like dominoes, ask any bartender, perhaps that's what happened?

That's the thing, they weren't even stacked, they were just stood in the cupboard. I heard a crash, went to look and the cupboard was littered with glass, it had just disintegrated!

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BTW, he just gets better!

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My god man, those flame effects look brilliant! I've been loving all of the wraiths, but I'm so utterly floored by Sauron. He just looks so epic and fierce. Quickly becoming one of my all time favorite builds.

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GubernatorFan wrote:I like it all!

Thanks GF!

Stryker2011 wrote:That looks cool. I must say when I read you were thinking of adding skulls to the pauldron spikes I was skeptical, but that looks creepy (awesome).

They're starting to look even better now they're partially painted, he already had 22 skulls on him so what's 4 more Wink (most of those are tiny ones on his faceplate.

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If you stack glasses etc.. they will explode on their own due to gravity putting stress on the lower ones from the ones above then it's like dominoes, ask any bartender, perhaps that's what happened?

That's the thing, they weren't even stacked, they were just stood in the cupboard. I heard a crash, went to look and the cupboard was littered with glass, it had just disintegrated!

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Weird! Must have been a change in temperature or something, or they had some seriously overkill built in obsolescence! bom

Rogerbee wrote:BTW, he just gets better!

CHEERS!

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ReverendSpooky wrote:My god man, those flame effects look brilliant!  I've been loving all of the wraiths, but I'm so utterly floored by Sauron.  He just looks so epic and fierce.  Quickly becoming one of my all time favorite builds.

WOW! Cheers RS! That's mighty high praise indeed! Thank you!

Did a bit of chain mail silver sponge work while watching the movie which I thoroughly enjoyed. I still need to add the bright silver and maybe a black ink wash here and there. The war hammer design isn't finished, I'm going to make it more aggressive.







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Looking good.


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shovelchop81 wrote:
ReverendSpooky wrote:My god man, those flame effects look brilliant!  I've been loving all of the wraiths, but I'm so utterly floored by Sauron.  He just looks so epic and fierce.  Quickly becoming one of my all time favorite builds.

WOW! Cheers RS! That's mighty high praise indeed! Thank you!

Did a bit of chain mail silver sponge work while watching the movie which I thoroughly enjoyed. I still need to add the bright silver and maybe a black ink wash here and there.

Well deserved. You are absolutely killing it on this figure. I'd be really interested to see a close up shot of how you sponged the chain mail. I love using that mesh material, and from what I can see, your additional coloring adds a real grittiness to it.

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It's not actually mesh, each piece is an individual metal four pronged stud connected with four metal rings which is what allows it to be so flexible. I was pondering on how they make it (have done a degree in product design I can be entertained by the most mundane things! Wink ) and I'm guessing the studs are cast in a big sheet and so are the rings, then they must be pressed together by a specialised machine tool that matches up the sheets and forces the prongs through and then closed, I think the combined cast sheets would then be put in a tumbler to break the purpose made thin connecting material (like flashing) and polish it off scratch That way they can make huge sheets of it at a time...okay enough waffling.. The sponge work is as simple as it sounds, choose the type of sponge you want by the density of it to a get bolder or more delicate stippling effect, cut it to a shape that suits the size you're working on or if you need to get in corners, under ledges etc.. cut a wedge shape to use in there. Dab it in some paint or ink but just make sure you treat it like dry brushing so tap it on some newspaper to remove any excess paint/ink and go to town, with a bit of practice you just get a feel for which sponge works best with certain media and what effects you can create like rust, grit, snow etc.. adding another media to the mix like sand or plaster powder can get great results too, even dirt works. Oh, make sure to cut off any dried/hardened parts of the sponge from previous use to get a nice soft absorbent area again, you can also rip the sponge up to get random edges for blending into a flat finish (like rust into undamaged paint on a vehicle or weapon etc..) or for camo apps too.

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shovelchop81 wrote:It's not actually mesh, each piece is an individual metal four pronged stud connected with four metal rings which is what allows it to be so flexible. I was pondering on how they make it (have done a degree in product design I can be entertained by the most mundane things! Wink ) and I'm guessing the studs are cast in a big sheet and so are the rings, then they must be pressed together by a specialised machine tool that matches up the sheets and forces the prongs through and then closed, I think the combined cast sheets would then be put in a tumbler to break the purpose made thin connecting material (like flashing) and polish it off scratch That way they can make huge sheets of it at a time...okay enough waffling.. The sponge work is as simple as it sounds, choose the type of sponge you want by the density of it to a get bolder or more delicate stippling effect, cut it to a shape that suits the size you're working on or if you need to get in corners, under ledges etc.. cut a wedge shape to use in there. Dab it in some paint or ink but just make sure you treat it like dry brushing so tap it on some newspaper to remove any excess paint/ink and go to town, with a bit of practice you just get a feel for which sponge works best with certain media and what effects you can create like rust, grit, snow etc.. adding another media to the mix like sand or plaster powder can get great results too, even dirt works. Oh, make sure to cut off any dried/hardened parts of the sponge from previous use to get a nice soft absorbent area again, you can also rip the sponge up to get random edges for blending into a flat finish (like rust into undamaged paint on a vehicle or weapon etc..) or for camo apps too.

Oh man, thanks for the thorough explanation! I may need to start experimenting with sponges a bit this weekend then. The comparison to dry brushing was a key element, and I think really makes the effect. I've actually been working with that mesh for a while too, and have knocked out a couple Red Sonja chain mail bikinis out of it. It's interesting to work with, selectively popping open prongs to get the shape you want. I looked for it on a roll for a long time, until I finally caved and did exactly what you did, and bought a purse.

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A few years ago, I found dangly earrings that were like that purse, and I, too, made a Red Sonja outfit out of it, pain to work with, but turned out pretty cool.


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Stryker2011 wrote:A few years ago, I found dangly earrings that were like that purse, and I, too, made a Red Sonja outfit out of it, pain to work with, but turned out pretty cool.

I remember that well, it was before they came out with an 'official' Red Sonia and looked great.

I looked for it on a roll for a long time, until I finally caved and did exactly what you did, and bought a purse. wrote:

Yeah you can get them dead cheap. a least the smaller ones as they tend to be used as freebies to promote products a lot like make up and stuff I think. Getting them from Ali Express would probably be the cheapest way.

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Yeah, online would be the best way. You'd feel a bit odd going into Claire's Accessories and being stared at by teenage girls! "It's a present for my niece, honest!"

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Your Sauron looks incredible! The flames are really amazing. I think he will turn quite a few heads when he is done. Talk about a hotty!

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JohnByng wrote:Your Sauron looks incredible! The flames are really amazing. I think he will turn quite a few heads when he is done. Talk about a hotty!

Thanks JB!

Been all about tiny metal chain links today, for his chest that took various attempts in lengths and attachment points etc.. to get it where I am happy with it . Also for his mail kama that needed loads of studs removed individually and manually to create a seam of holes/rings to slide wire (with the plastic striped off) through, connecting it to a bit of stiff pleather from that handbag to make belt/carry system for it. He's got so much metal on him now he weighs a tonne! He's going to need that throne!





















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Very nice progress. I love the extra chains. And all the other additions are great enhancements.


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That is looking great.


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Thanks guys! Spent all morning hacksawing, filing dremelling to get the tubes the right length, flat edged and have a compression/friction fit since the OD's and ID's were off by about a mm or so. The chains are now permanently attached to the weapon's ends but the staff segments are free to disconnect from each other so they can either form a rigid staff weapon or a flexible glaive, the sections can also be configured by being joined or separated in more configurations than I can count so they can be nunchucks, triple staffs, a staff with one or two flail weapons etc.. Needs to be tidied up then painted, probably should have painted the chain first but c'est la vie.. I also added more detail to the tops of the forearm armour as it was looking a bit spartan compared to the rest of the figure but blends in well now and done on both forearms.

















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Nice additional detail on the vambraces, and that weapon looks like serious trouble for anyone coming up against your Sauron.


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Superb stuff! If you don't have a sign on your door saying Genius At Work, you need one. I know that some of the time I keep thinking some of your ideas won't work, but, I should have and keep faith as you always pull it off with great aplomb in the end. This Wraith army is shaping up to be some of your best work to date.

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