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Aye aye, someone's got the horn! I'm sure it'll look ace with all the accessories added. Do that in 1/1 and you might get a job at Ikea!

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Interesting use of the clothing. I’m surprised it works so well. Nicely done.


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Rogerbee wrote:Aye aye, someone's got the horn! I'm sure it'll look ace with all the accessories added. Do that in 1/1 and you might get a job at Ikea!

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Ugh!! No thanks, my work has way more personality than bloody Ikea! That would be the creativity equivalent of ripping my arms off! Wink

Stryker2011 wrote:Interesting use of the clothing. I’m surprised it works so well. Nicely done.

Thanks! Should look better when dry brushed or sponged with silvers and ink.

Done some filling with milliput then some filing, dremelling, spray painting and gluing. Doing the armrests next then got all those insectile bone legs to paint and mount around the 'skirt' of the throne with some other spikey bits to incorporate into the silhouette too, perhaps a chain or two as well.











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Looking very promising already. I know it will look beautiful when you're done with it. The uncomfortable chair requiring armor comment made me think of the throne from Game of Thrones and all the comments (physical and metaphorical) about it on the show. Besides, perhaps this is how Sauron keeps his seat from being usurped... you could make it even lethal for mere mortals...
By the way, I love your computer desktop background. Vikings rule. The show, not the damn raiding and pillaging bastards (how easy it is to become desensitized when their depredations lie a thousand years ago).


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GubernatorFan wrote:Looking very promising already. I know it will look beautiful when you're done with it. The uncomfortable chair requiring armor comment made me think of the throne from Game of Thrones and all the comments (physical and metaphorical) about it on the show. Besides, perhaps this is how Sauron keeps his seat from being usurped... you could make it even lethal for mere mortals...
By the way, I love your computer desktop background. Vikings rule. The show, not the damn raiding and pillaging bastards (how easy it is to become desensitized when their depredations lie a thousand years ago).

Well actually speaking as an Irishman, we're half Celt half Viking (slavery back and forth plus Viking settlements in Ireland), So are the Scots well Pict/Celt/Viking. The English ended up more French and German thanks to the Angles and Saxons, then later William The Conqueror, campaigns in France etc.. It's commonly thought that the Welsh are the last of the true Britons due to a much lower invasion history mostly due to the terrain and weather; the Romans gave up for example! LOL it also explains the uniqueness of the Welsh language since it's nothing like Gaelic, English, French, German etc...

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shovelchop81 wrote:Well actually speaking as an Irishman, we're half Celt half Viking (slavery back and forth plus Viking settlements in Ireland), So are the Scots well Pict/Celt/Viking. The English ended up more French and German thanks to the Angles and Saxons, then later William The Conqueror, campaigns in France etc.. It's commonly thought that the Welsh are the last of the true Britons due to a much lower invasion history mostly due to the terrain and weather; the Romans gave up for example! LOL it also explains the uniqueness of the Welsh language since it's nothing like Gaelic, English, French, German etc...

Not to go off on a tangent, but since you brought it up... Just because we're descended from people doesn't mean we should be blind to their faults (although I am not saying that's exactly where you're going with this -- though you are pointing out a legitimate paradox in the British and Irish viewing the Vikings as "other"). The English are plenty Viking too, especially in the north and east (the old Danelaw + East Anglia + Northumbria), and the Normans were of course descended from Vikings (though intermarried and acculturated with the population of Gaul where they had settled over a century before conquering England). As for the Welsh, that part of Britain was under Roman rule, just not heavily urbanized and Romanized (but also remember that some northern and even less Romanized Britons moved there in the 5th century -- Cunedda Wledig of the Votadini and all that). I know little about Celtic languages, so I don't know how different Welsh and Irish Gaelic are form each other, although I remember they belong to different branches of that linguistic group. But I expect they are more similar to each other than to the alternatives (Romance, Germanic, or hybrid -- English).


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That throne is looking awesome. What an incredible eye for detail you have. Sometimes it's so hard to tell where your creations will go with all the chop-shop work, but that is looking amazing.


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My god, this is coming out incredible!  Using that knit material and then painting it has blown my mind.  You really come at a project in ways I'm never think of, and your results really are spectacular.  

After Rogerbee mentioning it, I can't stop picturing running across this at Ikea.  you'd be in the office section and it would be like bland functional chair, bland functional chair,  GIANT THRONE OF DEATH, bland functional chair...

On the subject of vikings, were they really any more aggressive than any of the other murdering, crusading, conquering nations of the time?  I mean lets face it, weren't everyone pretty much bastards back then?  I remember reading, and someone more historically educated can correct me if I'm way off, that the vikings were actually pretty progressive in a lot of ways for the time.  Raiding was a seasonal thing, and they were mostly farmers all year round.  Women had WAY more rights than anywhere else in Europe, and could own wealth and property, participate in politics, and get divorced if they wanted to.  Unwanted advances toward women in the community were pretty severe, even by today's standards.  Recently, scientists stated realizing that some of the warrior's graves they found were women.  They had just assumed, since they were warriors, that these were men, but when they started actually looking at the skeletons, they realized some were actually women.  There communities were in a lot of ways very democratic.  And they were far more hygienic and more conscious of good grooming than most of the rest of Europe, bathing more regularly, bleaching and dying their hair and beards.  There was even a 13th century writer that complained that all of this, combines with the fact that Norsemen actually changed their underwear regularly, actually gave them an unfair advantage competing for attention from local ladies.

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Stryker2011 wrote:That throne is looking awesome. What an incredible eye for detail you have. Sometimes it's so hard to tell where your creations will go with all the chop-shop work, but that is looking amazing.

Thank you Stryker!

Thanks RS, yes the use of a cardigan was a leap of faith so to speak but I love experimenting and tend to use what I have lying around to do it, which is normally others people's garbage! LOL.

GF & RS, you both make very valid points I was just being generic.

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Back on topic… built all the support structures now and most of the larger detail pieces, still got the smaller detail parts to paint and add though, nearly there.

















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Ahah, now we're seeing something. Looks to be coming together rather well now.

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Rogerbee wrote:Ahah, now we're seeing something. Looks to be coming together rather well now.

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Thanks Roger! Paint done but assembly required... not sure how to paint the palantir itself as Sauron's not going to be looking at himself scratch but a bunch of battle field grass, mud and armoured figures will just look a mess..maybe black silhouettes of an army rank/line with a smoky sky and surrounded by flames? I've got a splitter and some white EL Wire on the way for it too. I need a nap, been at this since 4am! Sleep





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More great work, that is looking fantastic.

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That throne looks amazing. I'm sure you'll come up with something clever for the Palantir.


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Most epic work on the throne !
I am continuously amazed at your scratch building work and ability to create something out of many many things !


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I love how this is coming along. With most of the elements in the same color (I am assuming this is not the final one and there will be plenty of gunmetal grey, etc. coming), once can begin to appreciate its gothic-fiction beauty.


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peter the painter wrote:More great work, that is looking fantastic.

Cheers,

Peter.

Thank you Peter!

Stryker2011 wrote:That throne looks amazing. I'm sure you'll come up with something clever for the Palantir.

Cheers! Still thinking about it but have some ideas.

Allotropos wrote:Most epic work on the throne !
I am continuously amazed at your scratch building work and ability to create something out of many many things !

LOL, thanks! It's the only way I know how to build stuff! Well the way that I enjoy it the most that is, kits and blueprints don't do it for me Wink .

GubernatorFan wrote:I love how this is coming along. With most of the elements in the same color (I am assuming this is not the final one and there will be plenty of gunmetal grey, etc. coming), once can begin to appreciate its gothic-fiction beauty.

Thank you GF! It is looking very Gothic in black now that you mention it, cool! I've added the legs, arms and ribcages with spines to include the organic and insectile vibe that's been an overall theme with the wraith, still got some spiky bits to add and some chain hopefully if I can make enough with the right style of links using little bits from keyring fobs etc..and yes there will be plenty of silvers.

















Damn... it's getting light outside already? Feels like I just closed the curtains! scratch Ah well, Norway was a hell of a lot more confusing! Laughing

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Looks impressive, and I know what you mean about Norway.

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Thanks! Added more detail to break up the front of the throne, add to the silhouette and fill in those shoulder post cavities on the rib/spinal parts. I'll start working on the chains now, I was thinking of adding that flexible spinal column to the back of the throne that would look really cool but no one would ever see it so it would be a waste of a cool parts; I'll be attaching the same material I used on the Rohirim Wraith cloak to make a drape over the back instead.











Installing this new graphics card next so if you don't here from me for a bit then I screwed up! Wink

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Damn... What a great throne that's turning out to be. Magic to watch.

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Looking good. I suspect that card will be man enough for the set up you have.

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Looks really good with all the additions.


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dadrab wrote:Damn... What a great throne that's turning out to be. Magic to watch.

Thank you dadrab!

Rogerbee wrote:Looking good. I suspect that card will be man enough for the set up you have.

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Cheers! Yup that card's made all the difference, I can actually now watch You Tube on all my browsers and in full HD no less!! YAY! PC's super fast now too! Very Happy

Stryker2011 wrote:Looks really good with all the additions.

Thanks Stryker!

Added some black milliput (still wet) to fill in all the gaps so I'll start painting the silvers etc.. after a nap. I only managed to bodge together two short chains with the right links from keyrings (got loads of the twisted links but don't like how they look) so I've decided I'll attach one to each skull's 'neck' as a symbol of Sauron's ambition to enslave all mankind in Middle Earth!







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May I suggest a triangular piece of cloth (or plastic or whatever) hanging down from the center of the seat, maybe even ending with a tassel? I think it would make the whole thing more throne like and busy-up the gap between the vertical elements. Yep, I am into details. Smile


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Coming along,

I always have trouble with YouTube in HD, it keeps buffering all the time.

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GubernatorFan wrote:May I suggest a triangular piece of cloth (or plastic or whatever) hanging down from the center of the seat, maybe even ending with a tassel? I think it would make the whole thing more throne like and busy-up the gap between the vertical elements. Yep, I am into details. Smile

Funnily enough I already planned to put a piece of arrow shaped bone (plastic) I found (it's an off cut from the same armour as Sauron's ribcage armour but from another project) in that exact spot! Laughing I only found it last night.

Rogerbee wrote:Coming along,

I always have trouble with YouTube in HD, it keeps buffering all the time.

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Hopefully I've cured my issues with it, in full screen mode too and my monitor is pretty big.

Been painting the throne and accoutrements since 7am, there was a lot to cover! Still need to go back in black for the cushion and add some detail parts like the above mentioned bone piece and chains.





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Damn. Looks as good from the back as from the front.

That's dedication, brah. A tip of my hat to you.

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shovelchop81 wrote:Funnily enough I already planned to put a piece of arrow shaped bone (plastic) I found (it's an off cut from the same armour as Sauron's ribcage armour but from another project) in that exact spot!  Laughing  I only found it last night.

Well, you know what they say about great minds thinking alike. And now I know mine is great too! Smile

The new photos look absolutely glorious. Perhaps a bit lighter and shinier than I expected, but I should not question your unfailing sense of what's best. Speaking of which, I had no doubt you were going to end up with something appropriately intricate and impressive, but it is still mind-boggling how you can visualize and imagine all this, carrying it from some very simple beginnings to an ornate masterpiece. Of course, to some extent this is true for any such project, and it's just that you treat us to a detailed step by step work in progress exposition. But it is still impressive all the same.


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That is looking really cool now. I think I solved my YouTube issues by altering a few cache sizes in Firefox.

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Man that looks awesome!


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Cheers guys! I replied to each of you twice but my browsers kept crashing! I'm hoping it was only caused by some foam I'd put in the gap where my floppy drive used to be to block up the hole, I think it was causing the hard drive beneath it to run too hot, taken it out now and seems to help already fingers crossed!
Added the chains and collars to the skulls, the arrow shaped bone piece on the front, not a big change but does help complete the focal/optical armatures of the design to draw the eyes in and not confuse the brain, I learnt this trick while doing my foundation course in illustration and graphic design. Sauron's a big boy so he covers up a lot of detail anyway and I haven't even lengthened his robes yet! The EL Wire parts arrived too.

























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That is looking really cool! The fact that Sauron can actually sit on it is a real bonus. You do get things like this being built without the articulation of the figure being taken into account.

You mentioned being able to keep your PC cool, this is paramount, if you can fit additional fans, do it.

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Rogerbee wrote:That is looking really cool! The fact that Sauron can actually sit on it is a real bonus. You do get things like this being built without the articulation of the figure being taken into account.

You mentioned being able to keep your PC cool, this is paramount, if you can fit additional fans, do it.

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Well I'd be rather embarrassed if he couldn't after all this work and having made from scratch for him! Laughing
He sits very well, not a slouching slob like me but looking very authoritarian! Mind you it took me years before I could slouch, I used to be way too pent up and literally sit on the edge of my couch!
As for fans, got one in the front and one in the back, both very big and pumping out the hot air while cool air goes in that hole where the floppy used to be, I only put the soft foam in for protection against any metal getting in there but I guess it was too dense. I did try to duct tape a bit of scrim on their first but it kept falling off! Just worried about the odd ricochet BB or pellet causing a short inside.
Look what the neighbours left outside for me this morning! A goldmine of material! Again..Wink

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How thoughtful of them.

My PC has 3 fans at the front one at the top and one in front of the radiator for the liquid cooler for the CPU. In this weather a liquid cooled CPU has become an absolute must.

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Man that throne is so cool looking. Fantastic work.


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Rogerbee wrote:How thoughtful of them.

My PC has 3 fans at the front one at the top and one in front of the radiator for the liquid cooler for the CPU. In this weather a liquid cooled CPU has become an absolute must.

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Indeed! It's 27c in the shade here with the room cooler on, just had to turn the rear external fan for the PC around and put a freezer block behind it to pump cold air in.

Stryker2011 wrote:Man that throne is so cool looking. Fantastic work.

Thank you! And it's finished! YAY! Having a lap full of a heavy black woollen coat is not the most comfortable thing to do in this heat but had to unstitch the lining and remove all the inner material to get what I wanted for the back of the throne (that coat came from a bag of clothes left outside a while back too! Laughing Found some nice stuff in this one as well including a massive black thick cotton 'throw' to put over my couch now that I've washed a dried it) ; I just screwed it in place and used a black baby safety pin to position it so nothing fancy (sorry to disappoint dadrab but who ever sees the back of a throne? Wink maybe an assassin..). Anyway still got the palantir to do but below are some cool pics of it with the other Wraith but no Sauron yet...sort of a teaser and I still need him to work on the palantir's light up feature.











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It has come out glorious. And the top of the throne matches Sauron's headgear, so when he sits on it, the effect is amplified, like a sort of magic fusion of ruler and seat of power. It does strike me how light and silverish everything looks, but then I remember that ideally it would be displayed darkened, so that Sauron's flames would stand out. It's also cool to see your other GOT figures in the background. Am I missing something or do you show only 8 wraiths? Or is that the ninth one with the wolf's head helmet behind and below?


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Damn, brah.

That's great work.

You're absolutely correct about the back.

Marvelous build and I thank you for taking us with you.

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GubernatorFan wrote:It has come out glorious. And the top of the throne matches Sauron's headgear, so when he sits on it, the effect is amplified, like a sort of magic fusion of ruler and seat of power. It does strike me how light and silverish everything looks, but then I remember that ideally it would be displayed darkened, so that Sauron's flames would stand out. It's also cool to see your other GOT figures in the background. Am I missing something or do you show only 8 wraiths? Or is that the ninth one with the wolf's head helmet behind and below?

GOT? I think you mean LOTR! Getting your fantasy franchises mixed up! Laughing There are 9, the Reaper Wraith is on the right side in front of the Gondorian Wraith with the pike, I have been thinking about giving him a bit more of an elaborate helmet inspired by Locki's from Marvel to make him stand out more and give him some additional height too. The Wolf head is actually the Rohirrim Wraith's shoulder pauldron. And there's a Wolf Predator on the other side behind on the shelves which confused me initially about your question Wink . Thanks for liking it! I feel if I made them dark they'd just get lost to the background plus they are ethereal spirits which glow/luminess in the film.

dadrab wrote:Damn, brah.

That's great work.  

You're absolutely correct about the back.

Marvelous build and I thank you for taking us with you.

Thank you so much for following! Would be bloody boring without you guys to help me along and be company! I'm not exactly a party animal any more with the whole agoraphobia bollox cramping my style..Sad Wink

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PC's should really have internal fans for cooling. The problem you have is that your PC is an off the shelf job, so you may not be able to mount the motherboard in a new case that would allow for proper cooling.

The throne looks so good, well done!

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Rogerbee wrote:PC's should really have internal fans for cooling. The problem you have is that your PC is an off the shelf job, so you may not be able to mount the motherboard in a new case that would allow for proper cooling.

The throne looks so good, well done!

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I've actually got a large internal fan at the front that's ducted to the giant heatsink on the processor, I cleaned all the parts when I dismantled the PC last week and it's running well (the fan) I just use an external one right next to the rear vented section as an exhaust fan, so it sucks cool air in from the front and blows hot air out the back. If/when it's still going slow tomorrow I'll take the PC out from under all the printer and monitor stuff on top of it and pop the lid to get more air in.


Anyway back to the build... I've masked patterns on the weapons' hilts and started painting the Palantir, this is either how to do it or how not to do it! I was going to paint images of the battle on it but realised that could go so wrong so many ways so I've decided to have the Palantir in standby/screensaver mode where it's illuminated but not connected to any 'feed' as it were. I'm going with the classic marble/planet looking swirling pattern using a daft amount of different shades going from neon yellow all the way down to black eventually. Also painted the skeletal hands that will hold it over the fire (which I also started painting) a bit like an Art Deco statue of sorts.


























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Looking good!

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Rogerbee wrote:Looking good!

CHEERS!

Thanks! The 10cm of white EL Wire I bought is useless for the effect I want so I'll order another 50cm of yellow when I can.
Taken the PC out from under all the stuff, applied new heatsink paste (the other stuff might not have been working very well) and popped the lid leaving it propped open with the external fan switched on to let more air circulate around everything. I'll no if it's working when the room temp hits 26c as that seems to be the edge of the kill zone.

Just moved the room cooler back away from the PC and directed it's fins downwards. I'll have a look on line for cooling systems.



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That really isn't the way to go. You might be cooling it, but, you're also leaving the components open to dust and dirt. The other thing is that I don't think you could get other cooling for that type of system. They really weren't designed with modding of any kind in mind. If you really want a more practical solution then putting the hard drive into a new case with a motherboard and stuff you can easily mod would be the best way to go. This was precisely why I never went back to off the shelf stuff when I built my PC.

Compared to that, the staff will be easy....

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This is just a temporary thing for the hot days, I wouldn't leave like this all the time, I'd be tripping over it for a start! I used to take the side cover of my tower PC in my old place for the same reason, just blasted it with air from one of my compressors now and again to get rid of any fluff and dust. I've looked into a water cooling system and could easily build one for this PC for around 50 quid but I'm not convinced it would be any better than fans, You Tubers keep going on about how quiet the systems are but I've yet to see someone say it actually cools more efficiently. With motorcycles it makes sense as when a bike's engine is running but the bike isn't actually moving the engine isn't getting any benefits from air cooling where as water cooling still works. Have you seen any info that proves water cooling on a home computer (PC) is more effective? Please pm me if you can give me some insight on how well it works vs. fans, the water reservoirs just look so small to be cooled by a radiator and fan alone, ie. it looks like once the water has warmed up it won't have time to cool down by the next time it reaches the components it's meant to be cooling. Thanks.

Done more paint on the palantir, moved on to metallics like gold, brass, rust (next copper and black) and finished the weapons too, also ordered the 50cm of yellow EL Wire.





















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That Palantir is looking awesome.


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Stryker2011 wrote:That Palantir is looking awesome.

Thanks! I'm going to coil the EL Wire inside it through a hole in the bottom so I can light it up (it should be much more effective than the torch I'm using to give you an idea) and the flames as well in the base.

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Damn, that looks mighty good.

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Funny you mention liquid cooling, my CPU is liquid cooled. Even in this weather the temperature of the processor doesn't get above 35 degrees. With the stock fan, even with all the others, on a day like this it could get to over 65 which is not good at all. DIY just wouldn't be the way to go. For a properly cooled PC you have to build from the ground up with proven components. Each part has it's own warranty so you're well covered if stuff goes wrong.

The palantir is looking great by the way

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Damn, that looks mighty good.

Thank you sir! Unfortunately just got an email saying they're out of the 1.3mm yellow EL Wire and won't be restocking but have offered to send me some 2.4mm or 3.2mm instead, not ideal but should work.

Rogerbee wrote:Funny you mention liquid cooling, my CPU is liquid cooled. Even in this weather the temperature of the processor doesn't get above 35 degrees. With the stock fan, even with all the others, on a day like this it could get to over 65 which is not good at all. DIY just wouldn't be the way to go. For a properly cooled PC you have to build from the ground up with proven components. Each part has it's own warranty so you're well covered if stuff goes wrong.

The palantir is looking great by the way

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Thanks!
Well useful to know water cooling actually works, I'd be using PC specific parts and not bits of my sink for a change! Laughing , a build from the ground up would just be too expensive and cooling system is a cooling system, we use VW oil coolers on Harley choppers for example.

Added the copper and night time pics, black should be the last next.











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