AlKelAstra91 wrote:Great humorous photos, there's a certain...artistic quality to the way you have the skin 'mounted' on top of the steel skeleton like that. I could almost see it being a series, not just with this model but the others too (though who would dare do such a thing?).
The first photo actually doesn't look too bad; that's the thing about the M31, certain angle shots hide or minimalize its flaws. But for its price that shouldn't be necessary... Here's to hoping TBLeague eventually gives the slim/natural body a go once more. I would also like to see a fat one. lol
Thank you very much. The original reasons behind it were (1) my disappointment in the body
, especially after the wrists became, for all practical purposes, irreparable, (2) curiosity as to how it all works -- both the skeleton (although by then I had seen others' photos) and the silicone flesh, (3) someone asked about what these look like on the inside. The "mounted" or "Denial" photo was the skeleton trying to get back in (or was it the flesh trying to get back on top?). I have always said M31 had good aspects to it -- a more realistic, if tan, skin color than the pale and more greyish M30, a taller stature, a thinner body
type that is good for clothing, and a very nicely sculpted back side. Unfortunately, it did not function well in the end (wrists), and certain things were both unsightly and unrealistic (pecs and elbows).
skywalkersaga wrote:Lol, great pics, GF!
And yeah ... this body is so odd. Aside from its technical shortcomings, the thing that always strikes me about it is the weirdly ‘dainty’ or ‘shapely’ waist. It’s so strange-looking, and detracts greatly from the masculine appearance ( much in the same way that I feel the overly tiny hips on certain of the female tbleague bodies detract from their feminine appearance, but that’s another story). If they had given the figure a normal waist shape (or even very slight ‘belly’ on top of a normal waist), it would have looked a bit more ‘natural’...or at the very least, a bit less bizarre.
Thanks so much! Yes, it is an odd one. They claimed they were going for an average body
, but ended up with something just odd -- a bit taller than average (though in itself something taller than M30 was the a step in the right direction), but badly proportioned and shaped. The waist might be part of it, now that you mention it, though it was not what bothered me most. See more below.
Ovy wrote:Wow you REALLY don't like that M31. xD But I thought there were little coo-skeletons in every seamless body?? Very educational.
While the gutting pics have a disturbing 'That weird kid from Toy Story' vibe, "Denial" is quite artsy. I mean, modern art gallery with white background artsy. You might get even more recognition if you fled to LA because there is an oppressive regime in power of your home country and your art is the expression of your inner tortured soul and everything you left behind, with only your knowledge, skills and morals left, stripped from your material possessions. Respect to all of those kinds of people, btw.
Anyway, what do you do with those flayed bodies? Make robots with the skeletons? Or can parts of the body be used as some kind of 'flesh sleeve' (sounds disturbing) to create seamless parts on plastic figures that don't show that much skin (skin socks and vambraces for a Roman legionnaire for example).
And to defend the poor body, there are men who look like that, it's genetics and stuff. But yes, a fat seamless body would be cool. A squishy Buddha would bring luck .
Thank you very much. To be honest, when I was doing the photos, I was thinking only about presenting the skeleton and especially the emancipated "flesh" "suit," and how to arrange for a peak inside it (since it had the tendency to close back up on itself, sliced through or not). Clarity and humor were intended, the artsy aspects (such as there are) came to me only afterwards.
I kept the body
around doing nothing for awhile. Later I experimented on it with acrylics mixed with silicone glue, then silicone pigment (silc pig) mixed with silicone glue, and finally oil pastel (it does make an appearance in the Painting Seamless Bodies thread we turned into a makeshift tutorial). I think I tossed it out during the move. Slicing off parts and using them elsewhere is theoretically possible but in practice would be very difficult, not to say impossible. But perhaps I lack imagination.
My issue is not really that it is an unattractive body
(from the front mostly, the back is good) -- something Phicen (now TBLeague) actually acknowledged in the promotional write up for its next body
! I am perfectly fine with imperfect bodies as long as they are realistic; I would buy a "fat Thor" body
in a heartbeat if they made one LOL. But this was not actually realistic in its imperfection. It is as if they took their first body
(M30), did some resculpting to make the mold produce something less bulky, and then stretched it (in the digital design stage?) to make it taller (in itself a good idea, given the height of their female bodies at the time), but that caused problems in the realism. I think if you look carefully, you would see that certain elements like the chest are unnaturally elongated in the vertical direction. The nipples sit too far up on the pecs. The elbows (or at least the right one, judging by your photos) look like bent noodles. And when my best efforts to repair the faulty wrists resulted in a tentative, floppy, and insecure fit paired with some signs of "flesh" stretching damage on the lower arms, it was time to give up on it, for me. The "execution" or "dissection" was more out of curiosity and the newfound availability of what I considered an unnecessary or unusable body
than my disappointment or "wrath." So insofar as the wrists are still usable, I now consign the M31 to fully clothed figures, in which it works very well. For example, the kitbashed/customized imperial naval guards ("Death Star Troopers/Death Squad Troopers" -- both misnomers) in the photo from the Christmas special below: