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422 - lets be a bit philosophical, shall we? - Page 2 Empty Re: lets be a bit philosophical, shall we? on Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:24 pm

ThePhotogsBlog

ThePhotogsBlog
Skywalkersaga,

There are some people in just about any form of modeling you care to name that are driven by competition and the need to prove they are the best, which when it comes to art, which this is, is purely subjective. The overwhelming majority of modelers however, do it just because they enjoy the process of building, take pride in the finished product and enjoy the result afterwards, which might be sticking the figure on display for others to admire or in my case, shooting photos with it. I could care less about competitions myself; I'm not in it for that. like a lot of people however, I enjoy sharing my work among other aficionados of the hobby, reading their opinions and feedback and doing the same for their work when they post it. I get more satisfaction out of that than I could possibly get out of winning some sort of competition. Don't get me wrong...the stuff cranked out by competition level modelers is awesome in some ways, particularly painting and weathering, though not in my opinion all that original in concept. This being said, I'm in it to enjoy myself, and so far I am. Nothing in my collection would win any kind of competition, but then again, why would I care?

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Tjolnir

Tjolnir
interesting idea about competition and "incentives" . i chose 1/6 figures as a means to make my virtual hobby come to life. my very first figure was a 1/6 dragon german machine gunner(the name eludes me right now) but it was meant as a battlefield 1942 mascot when out on lan parties well, competing. even thought about case modding him into my pc but once i held the figure in hands i couldn't bring myself cutting him apart (was supposed to look like a tank hatch on top of my pc case). instead i thought about giving him a proper backdrop in my shelf, sandbags, barbed wire obstacles and all.

over the years i found some kind of relaxation when working on my figures / dioramas, something that wasn't tied to achieving a particular goal or placing 1st in a tournament rather than putting my mind at ease, kinda focusing without a definite goal in mind. similar to an open road with lots possible outcomes.

in everyday life, most results are forced upon you for the money's sake. then there's results that you put upon yourself, been there done that. for 2 years i trained, ate and slept on point to reach the goal of how i wanted my body to look. made the gym my second home and was honestly amazed that by the time people came to me for training routine questions or nutrition. up until 27 years of age my buddy kept saying i had to enter the door twice to be seen Wink so bulking up as much as i could was kind of a big deal to me.
yet no matter how much gains i put on, i wasn't satisfied even after having the obligatory "cycle". i felt great, was in the best shape of my life and still sad i was never getting the proportions of the "real guys" you see at the mr. olympia.
but somewhere along the way it "clicked", that in order to grow i had to mix various "supplements" and would soon hit unhealthy levels and still not be anywhere near the big guys, so i quit fighting with myself.
i still hit the gym, still admire the 250+pounds around but i came to enjoy my results as my own and try to build the best "me" instead of chasing an unreachable phantom.

so personally 1/6 isn't so much of a competition for me rather than an incentive and inspiration. i love seen stuff done i wasn't even thinking about myself even if i can't reproduce the result 1:1 due to lack of skills and/or patience. but it broadens my field of view and makes my arsenal bigger next time i try something new.

right now my first and foremost pastime is gaming and let me tell you, being toxic at any possible confrontation is the norm not the exception for your every move is recorded as statistics. how many kills per deathm points per minute and so and so forth. it keeps you on your toes but burns you out just the same for you don't want to be on the lower end of the score list.
so basically my best from today has to be the norm for tomorrow. only at some point you can't improve any further linearly and that's where frustration hits you, thus the toxicity.

so all i'm saying is i'm thankful having found a hobby where the results only ever matter to me and every external influence is an inspiration rather than a challenge to the death Wink

cheers and thanks for the food for thought

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shazzdan

shazzdan
Stryker2011 wrote:
shazzdan wrote:I started making my own stuff because I'm cheap! It costs less to make one than to buy a commercial version. I don't even like buying materials; I'll try to scavenge everything for free. My main ongoing expenses are glue and paint. It's actually a pretty inexpensive hobby if you stay away from buying boxed figures.

Laughing I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.

All inventors are lazy at heart. The underlying desire is to create a device that can help them do less work.


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452 - lets be a bit philosophical, shall we? - Page 2 Empty Re: lets be a bit philosophical, shall we? on Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:52 pm

GubernatorFan

GubernatorFan
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shazzdan wrote:All inventors are lazy at heart. The underlying desire is to create a device that can help them do less work.

Didn't someone (other than me) say that laziness is the mother of invention? Well, if they didn't, they should have. Smile


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462 - lets be a bit philosophical, shall we? - Page 2 Empty Re: lets be a bit philosophical, shall we? on Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:37 pm

shazzdan

shazzdan
Tjolnir wrote:yet no matter how much gains i put on, i wasn't satisfied even after having the obligatory "cycle". i felt great, was in the best shape of my life and still sad i was never getting the proportions of the "real guys" you see at the mr. olympia.
but somewhere along the way it "clicked", that in order to grow i had to mix various "supplements" and would soon hit unhealthy levels and still not be anywhere near the big guys, so i quit fighting with myself.

You have to go right back to the early 1950s to see what a professional body builder physique looks like without steroid augmentation. The Soviets had a deliberate policy of steroid injections for all their athletes since the 1940s. It is physiologically impossible to get the kind of physiques we see today without steroids and other supplements. Anyone in the sport who claims to have never taken steroids is blatantly lying because they have been endemic since the 60s. Here are the 1953 Mr. Universe finalists.

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Look carefully and you'll see a young Sean Connery in the middle.

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ThePhotogsBlog

ThePhotogsBlog
shazzdan wrote:
Tjolnir wrote:yet no matter how much gains i put on, i wasn't satisfied even after having the obligatory "cycle". i felt great, was in the best shape of my life and still sad i was never getting the proportions of the "real guys" you see at the mr. olympia.
but somewhere along the way it "clicked", that in order to grow i had to mix various "supplements" and would soon hit unhealthy levels and still not be anywhere near the big guys, so i quit fighting with myself.

You have to go right back to the early 1950s to see what a professional body builder physique looks like without steroid augmentation. The Soviets had a deliberate policy of steroid injections for all their athletes since the 1940s. It is physiologically impossible to get the kind of physiques we see today without steroids and other supplements. Anyone in the sport who claims that they have never taken steroids is blatantly lying because they have been endemic since the 60s. Here are the 1953 Mr. Universe finalists.

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Look carefully and you'll see a young Sean Connery in the middle.

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Ironic isn't it, that in those days, he had his real hair on his head but had to shave the hair off his chest, whereas by the time of the James Bond films, he could show off all the chest hair he wanted, but had to wear a hair piece because he was already balding rapidly.

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skywalkersaga

skywalkersaga
Ok... that is the first and only time I have ever found Sean Connery remotely attractive. Laughing


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shazzdan

shazzdan
skywalkersaga wrote:Ok... that is the first and only time I have ever found Sean Connery remotely attractive. Laughing

Now you see why he was selected to play Bond. He was only a passable actor and he could barely speak English. He was chosen purely for his looks.


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ThePhotogsBlog

ThePhotogsBlog
skywalkersaga wrote:Ok... that is the first and only time I have ever found Sean Connery remotely attractive. Laughing


Odd, given how many years running he was voted sexiest man alive when already in his sixties.

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skywalkersaga

skywalkersaga
Some things are inexplicable... ;p


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522 - lets be a bit philosophical, shall we? - Page 2 Empty Re: lets be a bit philosophical, shall we? on Sun Sep 15, 2019 9:35 pm

ThePhotogsBlog

ThePhotogsBlog
shazzdan wrote:
skywalkersaga wrote:Ok... that is the first and only time I have ever found Sean Connery remotely attractive. Laughing

Now you see why he was selected to play Bond. He was only a passable actor and he could barely speak English. He was chosen purely for his looks.


And yet Ian Fleming was so impressed with Connery in the role of Bond that he re-wrote the character in his later novels to make him half Scottish, half Swiss.

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shazzdan

shazzdan
ThePhotogsBlog wrote:
shazzdan wrote:
skywalkersaga wrote:Ok... that is the first and only time I have ever found Sean Connery remotely attractive. Laughing

Now you see why he was selected to play Bond. He was only a passable actor and he could barely speak English. He was chosen purely for his looks.


And yet Ian Fleming was so impressed with Connery in the role of Bond that he re-wrote the character in his later novels to make him half Scottish, half Swiss.  

Only after Connery received intensive lessons in elocution, deportment, and acting. Fleming initially thought he was an uncouth brute entirely unsuited for the role.


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ThePhotogsBlog

ThePhotogsBlog
shazzdan wrote:
ThePhotogsBlog wrote:
shazzdan wrote:
skywalkersaga wrote:Ok... that is the first and only time I have ever found Sean Connery remotely attractive. Laughing

Now you see why he was selected to play Bond. He was only a passable actor and he could barely speak English. He was chosen purely for his looks.


And yet Ian Fleming was so impressed with Connery in the role of Bond that he re-wrote the character in his later novels to make him half Scottish, half Swiss.  

Only after Connery received intensive lessons in elocution, deportment, and acting. Fleming initially thought he was an uncouth brute entirely unsuited for the role.

Interesting.  I did not know that. Still, whoever taught him must have done a good job as Connery as Bond is #3 on the American Film Institute list of movie heroes, behind Harrison Ford / Indiana Jones (#2) and Gregory Peck / Atticus Finch (#1)

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Rogerbee

Rogerbee
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skywalkersaga wrote:

Thanks for explaining! I wasn't aware of the particulars of the garage kit history, but I appreciate the info. And apologies if I was mistaken in calling them 'statues' -- what term do you prefer? Just 'figures'? And yes, of course, the painting skills are most certainly an area of overlap -- when I referred to the differences, I meant mostly in regard to the fact that action figures tend to require clothing and accessories to be complete, whereas I am guessing all of that is usually sculpted in a garage kit? Again, I was certainly not implying one hobby was better than the other,  but just saying that from my very inexperienced perspective, it didn't seem that they were 100% comparable. 

And I love watching Darren Carnall's painting videos!  I love you


We still call them kits. Incidentally Darren did actually do a series of videos in which he built and painted a garage kit of Clint Eastwood. This was right up my alley! He showed the amount of detail you can add to a kit simply by painting it the right way. The end result was pretty spectacular:

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Believe it or not, that holster is not real leather, but, it was painted to look like it. What you get out of a garage kit is often determined by what you put into it, and as you can see, if you want it to be, that can be a LOT!

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Rogerbee

Rogerbee
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ThePhotogsBlog wrote:

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He looks a bit like my Dad in that second pic!

572 - lets be a bit philosophical, shall we? - Page 2 Empty Re: lets be a bit philosophical, shall we? on Mon Sep 16, 2019 6:02 am

Tjolnir

Tjolnir
don't get me wrong, "supplements" was just an euphemism for stuff like winstrol, dianabol, sustanol and such. its a long list and with the dosages required in a professional regime, quite an unhealthy one. arguably andreas muenzer was the most shredded competitor yet he died with 36 years of age. his autopsy showed his liver to be half cancerous and half styrofoam like.
mike matarazzo died with i think some 40 years, was known for some of the if not the best calves on stage.
and ronnie coleman sits partially in a wheelchair, the other time he needs some walking support. cheerful as always and very likable, his only regrets was not doing 4 reps with 800 pound squats Wink

it might sound weird but i'm fine with steroids being used to push beyond the physically possible, part of that belief is that every adult should do whatever he wants with his body, as long as he's aware of the consequences. and those consequences were what kept me from going on a second cycle for i had to up the dosage for the body to respond in the same fashion.
so you might say i quite enjoy today's physique in the olympia minus the bubble gut, which is a byproduct of growth hormones, basically "everything" well, grows.
and in my book markus ruehl definitely deserved the title at least once in his career.

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coleman on the left, ruehl on the right(theyear this picture was taken, his form was clearly better than ruehls i must admit)

i wish phicen would bring out a body to match these guys, even the m35 would look skinny in comparison Wink

so yeah comparing the guys from the "silver" age of bodybuilding with the golden like arnold, ferrigno and oliva shows just the huge gap as when dorian yates hit the stage and dominated everyone with sheer mass.
accordingly you can see the progress of substances with dianabol being available i think in the late 50s early 60s, testosterone anyway being synthesized in ww2 and later the stuff that gave us kai greene and phil heath.

for those interested, leroy colbert(sadly deceased, died a few years ago) had a wonderful youtube channel with a lot of insights and valuable tips, which is still active by the way.
he stemmed from the age of bodybuilding where very few stuff was around and had some of the best arms of the time.

one might not like the look of today's pro athletes, personally though i prefer the mass monsters.
cheers

oh by the way, thats some awesome eastwood, the level of detail is amazing.

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skywalkersaga

skywalkersaga
Thank you for sharing that, Roger! It’s absolutely gorgeous, though I would expect no less from Mr. Carnall. And thanks also for the clarification — ‘kits’ it is, then. Smile


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shazzdan

shazzdan
Rogerbee wrote:We still call them kits. Incidentally Darren did actually do a series of videos in which he built and painted a garage kit of Clint Eastwood. This was right up my alley! He showed the amount of detail you can add to a kit simply by painting it the right way. The end result was pretty spectacular

That's a gorgeous paintjob. I could paint a little when I was younger but wouldn't even attempt it these days. My hands shake and my eyes aren't sharp enough to deal with the finer details.


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602 - lets be a bit philosophical, shall we? - Page 2 Empty Re: lets be a bit philosophical, shall we? on Mon Sep 16, 2019 8:54 am

Rogerbee

Rogerbee
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Tjolnir wrote:don't get me wrong, "supplements" was just an euphemism for stuff like winstrol, dianabol, sustanol and such. its a long list and with the dosages required in a professional regime, quite an unhealthy one. arguably andreas muenzer was the most shredded competitor yet he died with 36 years of age. his autopsy showed his liver to be half cancerous and half styrofoam like.
mike matarazzo died with i think some 40 years, was known for some of the if not the best calves on stage.
and ronnie coleman sits partially in a wheelchair, the other time he needs some walking support. cheerful as always and very likable, his only regrets was not doing 4 reps with 800 pound squats Wink

it might sound weird but i'm fine with steroids being used to push beyond the physically possible, part of that belief is that every adult should do whatever he wants with his body, as long as he's aware of the consequences. and those consequences were what kept me from going on a second cycle for i had to up the dosage for the body to respond in the same fashion.
so you might say i quite enjoy today's physique in the olympia minus the bubble gut, which is a byproduct of growth hormones, basically "everything" well, grows.
and in my book markus ruehl definitely deserved the title at least once in his career.


coleman on the left, ruehl on the right(theyear this picture was taken, his form was clearly better than ruehls i must admit)

i wish phicen would bring out a body to match these guys, even the m35 would look skinny in comparison Wink

so yeah comparing the guys from the "silver" age of bodybuilding with the golden like arnold, ferrigno and oliva shows just the huge gap as when dorian yates hit the stage and dominated everyone with sheer mass.
accordingly you can see the progress of substances with dianabol being available i think in the late 50s early 60s, testosterone anyway being synthesized in ww2 and later the stuff that gave us kai greene and phil heath.

for those interested, leroy colbert(sadly deceased, died a few years ago) had a wonderful youtube channel with a lot of insights and valuable tips, which is still active by the way.
he stemmed from the age of bodybuilding where very few stuff was around and had some of the best arms of the time.

one might not like the look of today's pro athletes, personally though i prefer the mass monsters.
cheers

oh by the way, thats some awesome eastwood, the level of detail is amazing.

Those guys are crazy!

I guess, with the amount of money they make, they can afford to get their clothes custom made. Their necks alone look thicker than both my thighs put together.

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Rogerbee

Rogerbee
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skywalkersaga wrote:Thank you for sharing that, Roger! It’s absolutely gorgeous,  though I would expect no less from Mr. Carnall. And thanks also for the clarification — ‘kits’ it is, then. Smile

Yeah, I doubt I'll be as good as him when I get going again, but, I'll give it my best shot. This Regan was the last thing I finished I think:

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Rogerbee

Rogerbee
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shazzdan wrote:

That's a gorgeous paintjob. I could paint a little when I was younger but wouldn't even attempt it these days. My hands shake and my eyes aren't sharp enough to deal with the finer details.

I hear you, I haven't tackled anything since I've needed to wear glasses, so, I'll see how I go....

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GubernatorFan

GubernatorFan
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The Eastwood kit is amazing, and great job on the Regan.

As for the body types, it would be beneficial if TBLeague does offer more types, colors, and sizes/heights. Personally, I'd rather see more average and more "silver age" offerings, as I think they will be applicable to a much larger set of purposes and historical eras.


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ThePhotogsBlog

ThePhotogsBlog
GubernatorFan wrote:The Eastwood kit is amazing, and great job on the Regan.

As for the body types, it would be beneficial if TBLeague does offer more types, colors, and sizes/heights. Personally, I'd rather see more average and more "silver age" offerings, as I think they will be applicable to a much larger set of purposes and historical eras.

Totally agree.  TBLeague would do well to put out more average type male bodies.

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Rogerbee

Rogerbee
Founding Father
GubernatorFan wrote:The Eastwood kit is amazing, and great job on the Regan.


Thanks, just hope I still know what to do.....

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skywalkersaga

skywalkersaga
Stunning work, Roger!!

And yeah, I’m with you guys on the more ‘average’ male body types, as it would be nice to match some of the recent female bodies in that regard. I’d also like to see more ‘regular’ muscular ones of different shapes, sizes, and heights. There’s the M32, but even that one isn’t always quite what I’m looking for. And no offence to the rest of the existing muscular tbleague bodies, but I’m not super keen on how ‘compact’ they are in the arms and torso , as it gives them too much of that artificial body-builder look. Top of my personal wish list for male seamless body would be a tall, broad-shouldered, muscular-but-still-lanky/long-limbed one! And no, not the crazy-tall basketball player they already did. That one’s arms are too skinny, imo. The closest I can think of to compare what I’m talking about to someone in RL is Joel Kinnaman.... *heart eyes*


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Tjolnir

Tjolnir
sadly the monetization in bodybuilding, mr. o in particular, is laughable compared to other sports such as soccer. all the while these guys risk their lives while those dropping on the green on purpose while chasing a leather ball make millions.

100k for first place mr. olympia is nothing when you have to spent 15-20k a month on steroids. sure, sponsors are keeping them above water, still for all their hard effort and dedication they deserve at least tenfold.

think about training for 12 months spending thousands on food and roids, placing third or lower based on politics and going home with 20k for the whole year. if it wasnt for sponsors i don't think anyone would waste their health on the sport. Sad

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shazzdan

shazzdan
It has nothing to do with how much work or effort is involved. Female soccer players train just as hard and make just as many sacrifices as their male counterparts but get paid a tiny fraction of a man's salary. Salaries and prizes are directly related to the viewing audience on TV. The percentage of the population who tune in to watch a body building contest is pitifully small and most of those are bodybuilders themselves. A lot of the mainstream community considers these people to be either jokes or freaks, not serious athletes.


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Delanie

Delanie
When all is said and done the way you look, or present to the world is entirely up to the individuals concerned as long as it does not impact negatively on those around them. The individual in question however should be aware of the consequences of their actions and not demand special treatment because of it.

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Ovy

Ovy
On competition: Interesting views you all have on competition. I am not the most competitive person myself, but I think the main goal of competition should be exploring and pushing your own skills, and well, then maybe do the winning. Lack of material leads to creativity, and so does a lack of time or a deadline. Short, results might be different. Not exactly better or worse, but different.

On bodybuilding: Funny that you mention Markus Rühl, Tjolnir!
One of my school buddies, Oliver - just a friendly Gameboy kid, then - started pumping in seventh or eight grade. Arnie Fan, like our Gubernator. He is acquainted with Rühl, we are all from the same area and Rühl's fitness studio is nearby.

That's what Oli looks like now. Well I guess now he is clothed and not tansprayed. If he was a 1/6 figure, one might say the head sculpt is too nice for the body, ha. Anyway he won some Natural bodybuilding competitions, but I don't know the details.
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His Bachelor Thesis is on calorie restriction. Interesting read, but I don't understand everything, I guess you will understand it better.
(Und Warnung to the rest,  it ist in German):
https://edubily.de/tipps/kalorienrestriktion-ein-ueberblick-zum-stand-der-forschung/

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skywalkersaga

skywalkersaga
Ovy wrote:On competition: Interesting views you all have on competition. I am not the most competitive person myself, but I think the main goal of competition should be exploring and pushing your own skills, and well, then maybe do the winning. Lack of material leads to creativity, and so does a lack of time or a deadline. Short, results might be different. Not exactly better or worse, but different.

Just to clarify, when I was talking about 'competition' above, I was not referring to actual, structured types of competitions that one enters into willingly to compete and hopefully win points, titles, prizes, etc. I mean goodness, I used to show Arabian horses on the 'A' circuit back in my youth, so I'm certainly not against formal shows, sports matches, tournaments, or competitions. Rather, I was referring to participating in a hobby for fun, only to look around and realize, belatedly, that you have been 'entered' into a kind of informal 'competition' completely against your will and knowledge, without even wanting to be in one. And while that kind of attitude thankfully doesn't seem to exist here, I have encountered it on other hobby forums, where every figure posted gets measured, mercilessly, against some kind of invisible, ever-shifting standard, and thus it turns things into a negative kind of competition -- well, at least, it seems negative in my eyes, since I'm not personally keen on overly-competitive attitudes to begin with, and having to facing that kind of thing just makes me shut down internally. So I was referring to a particular sort of competitive attitude rather than saying 'all competition is bad'. And really, I don't claim any of it is 'bad', just that I personally cannot handle being around it.


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Tjolnir

Tjolnir
Ovy wrote:On competition: Interesting views you all have on competition. I am not the most competitive person myself, but I think the main goal of competition should be exploring and pushing your own skills, and well, then maybe do the winning. Lack of material leads to creativity, and so does a lack of time or a deadline. Short, results might be different. Not exactly better or worse, but different.

On bodybuilding: Funny that you mention Markus Rühl, Tjolnir!
One of my school buddies, Oliver - just a friendly Gameboy kid, then - started pumping in seventh or eight grade. Arnie Fan, like our Gubernator. He is acquainted with Rühl, we are all from the same area and Rühl's fitness studio is nearby.

That's what Oli looks like now. Well I guess now he is clothed and not tansprayed. If he was a 1/6 figure, one might say the head sculpt is too nice for the body, ha. Anyway he won some Natural bodybuilding competitions, but I don't know the details.
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His Bachelor Thesis is on calorie restriction. Interesting read, but I don't understand everything, I guess you will understand it better.
(Und Warnung to the rest,  it ist in German):
https://edubily.de/tipps/kalorienrestriktion-ein-ueberblick-zum-stand-der-forschung/


da bleibt mir nur zu sagen : STABIL cheers

great form, especially like the veins pop out. looks awesome in my book. had leg day yesterday and ever seeing a video of tom platz training, well you could say i look like an idiot while having fun and never again skipping leg day Very Happy

oh yeah and me being the small guy around cheering myself up with YEAH BUDDY.... LIGHTWEIGHT... i guess people got used to it by now.

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Delanie

Delanie


And now I'm going to upset a few gentlemen ...... Sorry guys and I'm speaking as a woman , in my opinion those pictures of people above (not the models which look awsome btw) look down right nasty I don't mind a well toned man with broad shoulders and narrow hips but muscles on muscles yeuk definately not my cup of tea and i certainly would not want to wake up next to any of them

sorry about the rant.

With regard to the original post /track I have many collections, I have invested a lot of time and money in my hobbies and it gives me great pleasure to do the best i can. I do not have a great deal of disposable income so usually have to get what i can when i can. I find its the building i enjoy the most and this is one of the things i enjoy about this hobby it seems to lead me on to learn new skills I've learned to sew minature dresses on my sewing machine I'm now learning about leather craft thanks to the horse i bought so all i can say is at the moment i'm enjoying myself and thanks to you folks I'm enjoying the company

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skywalkersaga

skywalkersaga
It's ok, Delanie, you are not alone in that preference... Wink  

And for what it's worth, I am thankful that you share your projects with us here, I've especially been finding your tack-making efforts very inspiring.  I love you


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not as a contradiction, but as a transcendence of the universal tragedy of man."

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Rogerbee

Rogerbee
Founding Father

Yeah, your contributions are always valued.

Regarding time, the trap I'd always find myself falling into was rushing a project thinking that people were impatiently waiting for another post. You have to take the time you need to get what you need to do done, it's your time that matters, not theirs.

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skywalkersaga

skywalkersaga
Very well said, Roger.


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not as a contradiction, but as a transcendence of the universal tragedy of man."

Focusing on the Prequels, Clone Wars, and Original Trilogy eras (NO 'sequels', thanks!)

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Stryker2011

Stryker2011
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Rogerbee wrote:
Yeah, your contributions are always valued.

Regarding time, the trap I'd always find myself falling into was rushing a project thinking that people were impatiently waiting for another post. You have to take the time you need to get what you need to do done, it's your time that matters, not theirs.

So true, Roger. So true.


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Delanie

Delanie
Thank you folks I agree with the time thing I have also ruined things by rushing them. my leather and tools came this week but i have to build the saddle tree first.

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Theboo-bomb

Theboo-bomb
I've collected quite a few scales, 1/32, 1/18 and 1/6, I do appreciate the things I've collected and I do occasionally check to see if they are fine but it's not something I obsess over, I originally simply bought figures and that was it, wasn't until the early 2000's that actually started to kitbash as it is known. My original figures back then where all over the place and I didn't want to do too much to them (like taking my only uniform and dipping it in some acrylic wash!) so they didn't look good, it took some time, experimenting, reading and learning to get to where I am (which isn't amazing but I'm happy thus far). It then took a bunch more time for me to learn how to do stuff like pouches, bags and belts that appeared in scale more or less so for me doing this is just a way to be creative basically, I don't chase after expensive figures or care about the latest releases, I search ebay for cheap items that I can patch together and get a result (like some of my non canon SW troopers) simply because I enjoy that challenge of having cut up a bunch of trooper armor and figuring out how the hell am I going to piece this back together.

Another thing that I mix up with this hobby is writing, whenever I'm making something sci-fi or alt-history(very rare) or fantasy (legendary rarity) I like to sit down and figure out that world, what am I making, whats the culture/society like, whats sort of technology do they have, what type of government it is, how do they view other people or races. Without that frame work holding up that scifi or fantasy figure I lose interest, all I can see is a bunch of mismatched pieces thrown together. I actually think I didn't answer the question, I'll have to sit this one and think carefully, chose sociology over philosophy in college lol.


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lawlaw91

lawlaw91
Recently busy for work, I am less coming here for a while....I don want to see all replies that make more complicated to my understanding, so whatever you are going on, I am trying to explain your first question...... What a Face

I don't see the problem between life and 1/6 collections, maybe I am still too poor to make it "interrupts" enough to my daily life, so far I have 40++ with me, including headless spare bodies.....

Whatever you are doing, I am bet you want to going to a better living, even you want to sell your house to get a smaller house, it doesn't mean that you have to sacrifice something to fulfill it, unless you need to sell your figure for your other expenses, that is another story and I am personally support you to do that.

These collections work like trophies for me and they will stay with me as long as they intact, I don't know how these collection rule the role in your eyes.....but, just keep them with you as long as possible What a Face What a Face Suspect

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