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jokuzo


Hello, i came here because i think i may have some chances to have answers to my questions.
Please forgive me by advance my lack of vocabulary : I'm French Very Happy

I recently buyed a 1/6 TOYSEIKI GANTZ Reika figure :

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I knew it was a figurine based on a Phicen/TBleague Body.
I've got some hot toys but it's the first time i buy this kind of stuff.  

I also buyed, last year, un set of 1/6 clothes by MC TOYS, without having an occasion to put it on a doll.

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So it tried it on the Reika Fig ! I didn't knew how Phicen Body were fragiles before coming in this thread...

I put the skirt without the stockings...
A few days were enought to mark the thights in blue :


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I tried soap, dishes soap, and even the thing to remave nail paint (very bad idea for the last one : silicon has started to melt :s)

So, here, i learned the talc method (cornstuff) and the diyng method for the clothes, thanks. BUT !

Impossible to put back the original costume with thoses visibles stains !

so here is my question number 1 :
How can i fix this stains ?
Is there a solution ?
Skirt is in false leather. Body in silicone.
I take every solution...

And question number 2 : With this picture under spoiler, can a specialist identify the body ?
Is it in the Phicen products line ? (S20A ? Don't seems so...) So i can replace it ?
Or is it a custom and it's die for me ? ^^'


18+:


Thanks for your futures advices Smile

GubernatorFan


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That's a good question about which body it is. It's bound to be one of the ones that they produce as base bodies. But it's hard to tell for me. I'd guess it is suntan and large-breasted, and obviously with the removable feet, so this (if correct) would narrow down the possibilities.

I've started a reference thread for these bodies here:
https://onesixthfigures.forumotion.com/t3013-tbleague-phicen-seamless-bodies-with-steel-skeleton-catalog

You can poke around Giantoy's materials here:

https://giantoy.com/blogs/guides/tbleague-phicen-standard-female-figures-comparison-with-photo-body-shape

and

https://giantoy.com/blogs/guides/how-to-choose-the-right-phicen-tbleague-female-body

and

https://giantoy.com/collections/phicen/products/1-6-phicen-tbleague-stainless-steel-skeleton-seamless-female-body-12-inch-skin-tone-pale-1?variant=14705474175039

As for cleaning the body, don't use anything too strong. Soap and water should do it. In a case like this, wash and dry, leave for two or three days, then check -- the stain might have disappeared on its own. If not, wash and dry and check again -- last time this happened to one of mine, the stain disappeared at that stage. Repeat as needed. Make sure you cover the body in protective powder after washing. If everything else fails, dedicate this body to the look that caused the stain, and research and find the same or very similar body to use with the other set of clothes.

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jokuzo


GubernatorFan wrote:That's a good question about which body it is. It's bound to be one of the ones that they produce as base bodies. But it's hard to tell for me. I'd guess it is suntan and large-breasted, and obviously with the removable feet, so this (if correct) would narrow down the possibilities.

As for cleaning the body, don't use anything too strong. Soap and water should do it. In a case like this, wash and dry, leave for two or three days, then check -- the stain might have disappeared on its own. If not, wash and dry and check again -- last time this happened to one of mine, the stain disappeared at that stage. Repeat as needed. Make sure you cover the body in protective powder after washing. If everything else fails, dedicate this body to the look that caused the stain, and research and find the same or very similar body to use with the other set of clothes.

Thanks for your  answer. I think it's a custom body, i looked more in detail, i don't think it's  the S20A. The hips are thiner, and the knee less detailled... Impossible to buy alone i think.
I don't want to dedicate this body to only one outfit. I will aplly the color fixer method, and try to clean with your method. And with the stockings it will be OK for the skirt.

I have cleaned it 2 days ago with soap and water, and again tonight. The stain seems to be lighter. I'll continue  this method for a few days to see if it works, i'll keep in touch. Thanks again for your answers.

I already had HOT TOYS, even customised some of them, but this doll is clearly another world. i wasn't execpting that ! I tought i was buying another figurine !

GubernatorFan

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jokuzo wrote:Thanks for your  answer. I think it's a custom body, i looked more in detail, i don't think it's  the S20A. The hips are thiner, and the knee less detailled... Impossible to buy alone i think.
I don't want to dedicate this body to only one outfit. I will aplly the color fixer method, and try to clean with your method. And with the stockings it will be OK for the skirt.

I have cleaned it 2 days ago with soap and water, and again tonight. The stain seems to be lighter. I'll continue  this method for a few days to see if it works, i'll keep in touch. Thanks again for your answers.

I already had HOT TOYS, even customised some of them, but this doll is clearly another world. i wasn't expecting that ! I tought i was buying another figurine !

You are welcome. Give it a few days (say three) between washing and checking or washing, washing, and checking. Smile

Did you look through the newly posted catalog of Phicen/TBLeague seamless bodies with steel skeleton? I'm thinking S12D or S21B (which is the suntan version of S20A) might be possible matches.

https://onesixthfigures.forumotion.com/t3013-tbleague-phicen-seamless-bodies-with-steel-skeleton-catalog


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skywalkersaga

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I can only go based on observation, but to my eyes that body looks like it may be specific to the figure. At least, it does not look like any tbleague body that has been sold separately thus far. The closest to it seems like it might be the upcoming ‘anime’ body that is still on pre-order — but even then it’s hard to tell if it’s an exact match.

Johnny_Joestar7


Hello everybody! I come a year later looking for help, the same thing happened to me a few days ago that the boy with a purple spot I have no idea why it was done, the clothes do not reach the area of ​​the stain ... Do you think that a wash of soap and protective powder will solve it? discussion - Staining and Cleaning (continuously updated) - Page 3 Screen13

GubernatorFan

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Start by washing it with some soap and warm (not necessarily hot) water. Then dry and leave for a few days. If the stain does not disappear, do it again. Don't try benzoyl peroxide or other harsh compounds unless you determine these simpler interventions fail. You might want to remove those stockings and other dark clothing for the duration of the cleaning process. Reapply protective powder when done.


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Ephiane

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Have no help here, sorry Friends. But a warning ! Don´t place Your TBL figures on a newspaper. I did it ....and hell i need hours to get the printers ink off. Adheres better than Oil pastel Laughing Take care

skywalkersaga

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Sorry for your troubles, Ephiane -- that's a very good reminder, for sure!

A question for this thread... has anyone found a suitable way to treat faux leather so it does not stain? Or is that just something one has to grit one's teeth and deal with? Black pleather is definitely the bane of most tbleague bodies, and it would be good to know if there was any way of preventing stains, aside from wrapping in clingfilm, which is not always practical, depending on the design of the clothing.

ETA: Asking because it was unclear to me as to whether some of the methods already mentioned here actually worked on pleather or not.


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GubernatorFan

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Pleather is the worst, but I have no solution. Sometimes even an incomplete protective wrap that supposedly covers the parts that would come into contact with it is insufficient, as if the dye finds a way around it. Perhaps (perhaps!) if you glue a fabric lining on it, keeping it at a mm or two distance from the skin?


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skywalkersaga

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GubernatorFan wrote:Pleather is the worst, but I have no solution. Sometimes even an incomplete protective wrap that supposedly covers the parts that would come into contact with it is insufficient, as if the dye finds a way around it. Perhaps (perhaps!) if you glue a fabric lining on it, keeping it at a mm or two distance from the skin?

Yeah, I figured it was difficult to impossible to fully prevent staining. The design of the clothing item in question makes it a bit awkward to fully wrap the body in cling film. I actually don't care if the area under the clothing gets stained, as I have no other plans for the body, but the problem is that the clothing might shift during posing, and this could reveal some stained areas of skin along the edges, if that makes sense. Perhaps if I somehow just make sure the edges are lined, it might help. Will have to do some experimenting.


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Tabul


As far as cleaning method goes just use a cotton cloth and plenty of ArmorAll specifically for rubber "non grease formula" and rub away and when finished use powder to get rid of the stickiness. I had a really bad stain from a golden metal bikini that I got from ebay, because of its tight fit and after a few weeks when I decided to give her a full costume, to my surprise her breasts and backside had yellow marks as well as her shoulders and back. I was already prepared but didn't expect that much stain from a little bikini, it took an hour to get rid of the stain. I got this tip from a youtuber in spanish that uses ArmorAll not for cleaning stains but for maintaining his figures. What a Face

GubernatorFan

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Thank you for the tip, Tabul. I hadn't heard of this one.


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baycon

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Hi Very Happy

I usually wash clothes with liquid detergent before putting them on my figures, so I haven't experienced staining until yesterday.

I got too excited when I received my order, which took a long time to arrive. I immediately wrapped S34 with plastic, thinking this would prevent stains, and put the clothes on without washing. Surprise, surprise,  Neutral  they immediately stained the thighs of S34 that has a small gap on the plastic wrap that I didn't notice  pale

I quickly grabbed some nearby liquid detergent, dipped a soft face towel in it, and lightly scrubbed the stained areas. The stains faded a bit as I did that. Then, I wiped off the figure with another damp face towel. Finally, I applied cornstarch. The stains faded a little bit more 18 hours later.

Is liquid detergent safe for cleaning stains on TBLeague figures? I didn't give it much thought yesterday because I was panicking, but I just want to make sure.

GubernatorFan

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You are probably fine having washed the body with detergent, but regular soap would probably work just as well. May be safer, since detergent is meant to cut through grease and you want the body to be oily -- on the inside. At any rate, you were right to apply protective powder. The stains would normally disappear with the passing of some time, especially after treatment.


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baycon

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Thank you! By regular soap, do you mean bath soap like this one https://www.amazon.com/Irish-Spring-Original-Deodorant-Ounce/dp/B07FY17L3N ? Because the only other soap I use at home is dish soap.

Hope it's fine to ask this one here, because the topic is different. Since bodies are meant to be oily inside, is it good to apply something like baby oil on TBLeague bodies for maintaining them?

Stryker2011

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Never tried something like baby oil myself. When/ if I have to wash these things I just use regular dispenser hand soap, rinse thoroughly, and reapply powder. Nothing fancy.


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GubernatorFan

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Someone brought up oiling the bodies recently, but I'm really not sure if that works and if it is advisable. He was new to these bodies, so he had no experience doing that and was therefore speaking theoretically. I'm not ready to experiment with that. I would stick to regular hand soap (I suppose bath soap is much the same) -- antibacterial or not. Dish soap may have extreme anti-grease (i.e., oil) properties. One wash with it is not likely to have caused any damage. Do apply protective powder after any wash (whether just water or soap and water) and after much handling (if you feel the surface getting sticky).


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baycon

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Thanks for guiding me, Stryker2011 and GubernatorFan. Will take note of your advice and follow them when handling figures Very Happy

I will stay away from baby oil then. Oh, I've never thought of regular hand soap. I use dish soap as my hand soap, because I don't like that moist feeling that hand soaps give Laughing

Are those moisturizing hand soaps alright for washing these figures? I'm asking because I don't think I've encountered a non-moisturizing one.

skywalkersaga

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I don't want to lead anyone astray, but I use 'liquid detergent' (as in, liquid diswashing soap) on my tbleague bodies and haven't had any issues so far. So long as I put the protective powder back on, afterward, they seem to be ok.


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GubernatorFan

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Thank you for confirming that you have been using dish soap and had not problems, Sky. Good to know. As for the other soaps, I suppose most soaps that are meant to go on the human skin would be fine, as they cannot be too harsh.


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baycon

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Thanks skywalkersaga and GubernatorFan.

Btw, I forgot to specify that I used laundry liquid detergent, not dish soap. It's the same one I use for washing new 1/6 clothes, that's why I have one within reach at that time.


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