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NEW PRODUCT: HENGTOYS: 1/6 Persian Empire Series-Elephant Soldiers & Elephant Captains & War Elephants (# PE-001 / 2/3)

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Stryker2011

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HENGTOYS 1/6 Persian Empire Series.

Elephant Soldier PE-001 configuration list:

-Head carving
-Super movable body
7 replacement hands

clothing:
-Blue top
-Neck Chain Mail
-Clothes chain mail
-White pants
-Red helmet wrap
-.belt

armor:
-Helmet (pure copper)
-Chest Carapace (Copper)
-One pair of shoulder armor (pure copper)
Pair of foot armor (pure copper)
Pair of combat boots [PVC]
Pair of hand armor (pure copper)

arms:
-Changyu (alloy material)
-Short knife [alloy material]
-Shield (pure copper)

Remarks: 1/6 black square folding bracket

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HENG TOYS 1/6 Persian empire seris ----- Like a soldier

1.Elephant soldier PE-OO1 list
; head
; superactin
; 7 replacement hands

Clothing
-The blue coat
-Neck guard
-Dress chain mail
-White pants
-Red helmet wrap
-The belt

Corselet
-helmet (Pure copper mass)
-Chest armor back (Pure copper mass)
-A pair of shoulder armor (Pure copper mass)
-Feet a pair of (Pure copper mass)
-Fight a pair of boots (PVC)
-Hand a pair of (Pure copper mass)

Weapon
The spear (Alloy material)
Knife (Alloy material)
The shield (Pure copper mass)

Remark: Order to send 1/6 black square folding bracket.

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HENGTOYS 1/6 Persian Empire Series.

2; Elephant ten captain PE-002 configuration list:
1;-Head carving
2;-Super movable body
3; 7 replacement hand

clothing:
-Blue top
-Neck Chain Mail
-Clothes chain mail
-Black pants
-.belt
-cloak
-Quiver

armor:
-Helmet (pure copper + chain mail)
-Chest Carapace (Copper)
Pair of hand armor (pure copper)
Pair of foot armor (pure copper)
Pair of combat boots [PVC]

arms:
-Persian scimitar (alloy material)
-Bow [Alloy material]
-5 arrows (alloy material)

Note: A 1/6 black square folding bracket is scheduled to be delivered

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Remark: Order to send 1/6 black square folding bracket.

2.Elephant soldier PE-OO2 list
; head
; superactin
; 7 replacement hands

Clothing
-The blue coat
-Neck guard
-Dress chain mail
-Black pants
-The belt
-cape
The quiver

Corselet
-helmet (Pure copper mass)
-Chest armor back (Pure copper mass)
-Feet a pair of (Pure copper mass)
-Fight a pair of boots (PVC)
-Hand a pair of (Pure copper mass)

Weapon
The Persian machetes (Alloy material)
bow (Alloy material)
Five of the arrow (Alloy material)

Remark: Order to send 1/6 black square folding bracket.

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Elephant Chariot PE-003

configuration list
; War Elephant [Eco Resin]
; 2 shields [made of pure copper]
; Wooden box [wood material]
; 4 copper chains [copper material]
'. Two pieces of battle cloth

Remarks; This product has details. Without notice.

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3.Configuration list for the like chariot pe-003
Elephants (Environmental protection resin)
The shield of 2 (Made of pure copper)
The wooden case (wood)
Article 4 the copper chain (Material is qualitative)
War elephant pad 2 pieces

Remark: Details of this item are subject to prior notice.

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skywalkersaga

skywalkersaga
Ok, first of all it's nice to see some 'Persian' representation that isn't based on some of the especially atrocious movie designs out there -- *cough* Prince of Persia, 300 movies, I'm looking at you, *cough*.  Though I'm still not really sure exactly what they are going for based on the description -- looks like some attempt at medieval or Mughal era, maybe. It's hard to even know what to compare it to since the description doesn't specify what time period they are trying to represent. 

ETA: of the two headsculpts, I like the second, bearded one best. Wink 

The elephant unfortunately looks a) under-sized, b) not very detailed, and c) like an African elephant, rather than the Asian elephants that Persians used. 

I'm not sure why they went with a war elephant , which seems like a rather overly ambitious thing to do in 1/6. Personally, I would have preferred some Persian horse cavalry/ mounted archers or something. And 1/6 horses are already available, so that side of it would have been covered. 

If you're gonna do a historical 1/6 war elephant, would be awesome to go all out and do a replica of the armoured Indian elephant from c. 1600 in the Leeds Royal Armouries: 

historical - NEW PRODUCT: HENGTOYS: 1/6 Persian Empire Series-Elephant Soldiers & Elephant Captains & War Elephants (# PE-001 / 2/3) Royal-armouries-08

https://collections.royalarmouries.org/object/rac-object-1761.html


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PitViper

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I do like both heads. Not interested in anything else.


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I was just lamenting how, as impressive as historical figures are getting nowadays, they seem firmly rooted in East Asia and Western Europe, nice to see something different once in a while

So yeah, i'm pretty stoked for these, i've always wanted to see Char-aina at this scale.

skywalkersaga wrote:Though I'm still not really sure exactly what they are going for based on the description -- looks like some attempt at medieval or Mughal era, maybe. It's hard to even know what to compare it to since the description doesn't specify what time period they are trying to represent. 

Yeah, "Persian Empire" is incredibly vague as that can cover over 2000 years of history, also agree on the elephant, nice idea but doesn't look very well executed.

Lynkhart

Lynkhart
I love the maille and armour, but the heads don’t seem to fit very well somehow and wow, could you get a smaller elephant? :lol if you’re going all out you might as well make them correctly scaled!


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As I was looking through the photos, I was actually wondering if this is based on the Prince of Persia. It looks Islamic period for sure, maybe Safawid (1500s-1700s), but I'm not sure how closely this is based on actual historical evidence. The plate armor bits on PE-1001 are a bit western European in appearance. The elephant (and "castle") are very undersized, and the elephant is so short on detail, it looks like a cheap toy (but I suspect the price would say otherwise). It does remind me of the African forest elephants Hannibal used in his campaign against Rome, but it might be smallish even for those. That said, the figures are actually very cool, either as a whole or for parts. And it is nice to see something that is both different and pretty nice -- whatever the caveats.


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skywalkersaga

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GubernatorFan wrote:As I was looking through the photos, I was actually wondering if this is based on the Prince of Persia. It looks Islamic period for sure, maybe Safawid (1500s-1700s), but I'm not sure how closely this is based on actual historical evidence. The plate armor bits on PE-1001 are a bit western European in appearance. The elephant (and "castle") are very undersized, and the elephant is so short on detail, it looks like a cheap toy (but I suspect the price would say otherwise). It does remind me of the African forest elephants Hannibal used in his campaign against Rome, but it might be smallish even for those. That said, the figures are actually very cool, either as a whole or for parts. And it is nice to see something that is both different and pretty nice -- whatever the caveats.

Thanks for the input, I was kind of struggling to place the figures in a precise context, but the time period you suggest is pretty much what I was thinking as well. I'm no expert, but I do recall my many visits to the Royal Armouries. ;D

Admittedly, I never actually saw the Prince of Persia movie, and only knew the Jake Gyllenhal costume from promo pics, so you might be right that it is based on it. Either way, I do also like the two figures on their own. If it were me, I'd use them with horses instead of the rather unconvincing elephant. ;p


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Ovy

Ovy
Yeah the elephant looks cute....too cute.

Beautiful armors and clothing, though. First head reminds me of Robert Carlyle. Second one of a certain headsculpt I once called sad Tom Hunnam/Charlie Hardy, later suspected to be Conor McGregor.

Valiarde

Valiarde
I like the second figure as a base for Saladin. Interested to use as a base figure. Nice


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Stryker2011

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The second figure for the win — for everything but that head, which looks rather meh by today’s standards; plus, there are better Middle Eastern-looking head sculpts out there.


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mailalan

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I agree the elephant looks ridiculously small.


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Stryker2011

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Yep. That elephant is a joke. Who goes to war with a baby elephant...


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skywalkersaga

skywalkersaga
Yeah -- for war elephants, it was considered the older and more mature they were, the better. As in, like, 60 yrs old or more! So no baby elephants... ;p


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shazzdan

shazzdan
The typical height of a fully grown male Asiatic elephant is around 9 feet at the shoulders, which is 18 inches at 1:6 scale. War elephants were selected from males that were even bigger (the largest one on record was over 11 feet high). The above elephant looks to be around 13-14 inches high, which would be 7 feet or less in 1:1 scale.


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shazzdan

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Valiarde wrote:I like the second figure as a base for Saladin. Interested to use as a base figure. Nice

Saladin lived around 300 years before most of this equipment was being used. Saladin was a Kurd, and the Kurds were predominantly heavy cavalry at the time. He would have had a lance and straight sword, and worn long-sleeved mail or a kazaghand (cloth-covered mail) with mail leggings, and forearm and shin guards. No bow, no curved sword, and no char-ayna plate armour. You could use the above helmet and forearm bracers but that is about it. The only real difference between Kurdish equipment and Crusader equipment were round shields and conical helmets.

There is an anecdote where Saladin was saved from an assassin's garotte because he slept with a mail collar on his neck but it was small and light enough to be concealed under his clothing so the above mail collar is probably too substantial to be appropriate for Saladin.


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agentghost

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anyone getting this?

Stryker2011

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I would have possibly gotten the elephant if it was actually 1/6....


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brassco

brassco
Yes, elephant too small...maybe i can find elephant models which is cheaper and more to scale...

Why do i think of Aladdin instead of Prince of Persia? Maybe i should rewatch that...

Moonbase Alpha Male

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GubernatorFan wrote:As I was looking through the photos, I was actually wondering if this is based on the Prince of Persia. It looks Islamic period for sure, maybe Safawid (1500s-1700s), but I'm not sure how closely this is based on actual historical evidence. The plate armor bits on PE-1001 are a bit western European in appearance. The elephant (and "castle") are very undersized, and the elephant is so short on detail, it looks like a cheap toy (but I suspect the price would say otherwise). It does remind me of the African forest elephants Hannibal used in his campaign against Rome, but it might be smallish even for those. That said, the figures are actually very cool, either as a whole or for parts. And it is nice to see something that is both different and pretty nice -- whatever the caveats.

I suspect you're dead-on right in connecting their manufacturer's actual inspiration or reference to Hannibal's war elephants (rather than Persian ones).  Obviously that would explain why an African rather than an Asian elephant, but also, there are historical paintings that depict Hannibal's elephants as way too small (like this one:  https://humanitieswest.net/carthage-from-dido-to-destruction-november-6-7-2020/) probably because the artist never saw a real elephant, or maybe as some kind of artistic convention).  It's coincidental because the RE: line of this post had me thinking of maybe a war elephant that could in fact be used for Hannibal, since the new series of HY Romans have reawakened my interest in all things ancient Roman.  But this one is, as all have noted, way too small -- can't even represent maybe a 1/6 baby elephant in training.  I do like the figures well enough.

Best bet for doing an actual 1/6 elephant would be things that I have seen in stores that carry East Indian decor (unfortunately, probably not the kind of stores that have an online presence).  There are statues of elephants that are realistically painted and in semi-dynamic poses, and they get fairly big, so <probably> up to 1/6 scale.  They are very sizeable (especially if the trunk is raised up) and pretty heavy and probably fragile so it would be a serious undertaking.  The better second option again from East Indian decor is that it is common to see slighly more stylized elephants (of wood or lighter materials, and more compactly posed) as coffee tables, which is about the right size.  The fact that they are meant to be tables or plant stands means that they would be about the right size, and also, a war platform is on them right out of the box (though nonremoveable).  They do not look very dynamic tho.


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agentghost

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maybe it's for 1/12 scale

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