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206Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:34 pm

skywalkersaga

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Thanks so much for sharing the results and showing a bit of the process as well. I still can't get over how good it looks!

You probably already answered this, but does this particular type of oil-based pen come in any other colour or is only available in black?


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207Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:56 pm

GubernatorFan

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skywalkersaga wrote:Thanks so much for sharing the results and showing a bit of the process as well. I still can't get over how good it looks!

You probably already answered this, but does this particular type of oil-based pen come in any other colour or is only available in black?

You're very welcome. This particular line of Pilot products does not appear to come in any other colors, but there are other oil markers from this and other brands. I haven't experimented with them yet (in part because I was originally looking for really fine tips, and an "extra fine tip" means something far less fine where a marker is concerned). Here is a search result for oil-based ink on JetPens, where I got mine -- you can at least get some ideas from there. As long as the marker works on the oil-colored silicone, it is not a given that you need a super fine (005 or even smaller) tip for patterns like those on my Maul -- in fact I mostly used 08-, 05-, and 03-size tips, and if I helped myself with the 005 on occasion, it was not actually necessary to use something so fine.

https://www.jetpens.com/search?q=oil-based+ink&v=2


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208Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:05 pm

Ovy

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Response to the great alien painters:

Team Blue:

Sky, I instantly recognized the character of course, I think it looks brilliant to perfect, the brown is in perfect harmony with the blue skin, and the 23 was the best choice there. But I get it, you are a perfectionist and I was never 100% happy with the way my figures turn out too, so I totally get it. xD
 Have you applied the powder yet? I think you can lighten up the body a lot if you use more powder.


Team Red:

Still have to thank you for your uniball experiment, will try them once I find the time and courage.

And I am sure Maul also has teeth on the buttocks.

209Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:10 pm

GubernatorFan

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Ovy wrote:Team Blue:

Sky, I instantly recognized the character of course, I think it looks brilliant to perfect, the brown is in perfect harmony with the blue skin, and the 23 was the best choice there. But I get it, you are a perfectionist and I was never 100% happy with the way my figures turn out too, so I totally get it. xD
 Have you applied the powder yet? I think you can lighten up the body a lot if you use more powder.

Team Red:

Still have to thank you for your uniball experiment, will try them once I find the time and courage.

And I am sure Maul also has teeth on the buttocks.

Great idea about the blue; the protective powder would lighten it a bit. But I don't actually think it was that much darker than it should be (and the deeper color in places makes it look even better to me); when I mentioned something is a bit more greenish, I meant the image of the character we were given as reference -- but so much of this depends on one's monitor and also one's eyes (we all see colors ever so slightly differently).

You are very welcome. Just proceed with patience and caution, and I hope you will have success. As for that other part at the end (back?), well... I didn't see anything like this when I came across all that explicit "fan art," so who knows... LOL


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210Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:07 pm

skywalkersaga

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Ovy -- Thanks so much for the vote of confidence! Feeling much more inclined to keep going on this one after all the encouraging words. <3

GF -- Ah, yes, my bad, I had indeed misread that part of your comment earlier. Embarassed

Re: the protective powder -- I did apply some to the body before putting on the outfit, as I would have struggled to apply it afterwards. Of course I could always put more on with a smaller brush, but I think the current contrast does seem to look good.

I'm hoping to have a chance to work on setting up the display area soon, so I will try out Diana's suggestion and see how it looks with the lighting there, and then decide if it might need some additional powder.

No comment on Maul's butt-markings Laughing , other than to say that in this case, since he's wearing that skirt thingie, it doesn't matter as it won't be visible. Razz


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211Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Wed Apr 15, 2020 8:11 pm

Stryker2011

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skywalkersaga wrote:No comment on Maul's butt-markings ... it doesn't matter as it won't be visible. Razz

Unless he plans to delve into some of that fan fiction...


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212Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Thu Apr 16, 2020 5:06 am

skywalkersaga

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Let’s hope there’s no ‘delving’ going on... Laughing


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213Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Thu Apr 16, 2020 11:40 am

GubernatorFan

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Ovy wrote:And I am sure Maul also has teeth on the buttocks.

GubernatorFan wrote:As for that other part at the end (back?), well... I didn't see anything like this when I came across all that explicit "fan art," so who knows... LOL

skywalkersaga wrote:No comment on Maul's butt-markings  Laughing , other than to say that in this case, since he's wearing that skirt thingie, it doesn't matter as it won't be visible. Razz

Stryker2011 wrote:Unless he plans to delve into some of that fan fiction...

skywalkersaga wrote:Let’s hope there’s no ‘delving’ going on... Laughing

No need to worry -- I won't be delving into that. The only reason I might have done that is if it were canon, though I don't have much respect for this part of what passes for Star Wars "canon" anyway. But it isn't, and it would appear that anything biological below Maul's waist is just "fan art," which leaves me free to pick and choose -- and I choose to believe that Maul didn't feel the need to extend his war paint (or "tattoos") to the unseemly (or at least unseen) parts of his anatomy (although he might just be the type of punk who would do that). Even the upper body markings are somewhat up for interpretation, as we have only seen them "canonically" in Cartoon and concept art form. As far as the movie canon goes, I suppose I could have just stuck the head onto an unpainted body. Because this is as far as it went:

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But where would be the fun in that? (Although it would certainly be more comedic, I suppose...)

While I used the Kotobukiya statue as the basic source of inspiration, I have allowed myself a modicum of creative interpretation, especially when I decided to incorporate some of the off-printing/staining problem areas into the patterning after the photos and before the application of the protective powder. And before anyone asks, I'm not going to ruin the seamless body by hacking off the lower parts of the "flesh" and building up any kind of mechanical legs -- I don't have enough skill to do that even if I were to have the inclination or interest in the animated series to do it (which I don't).


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214Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:12 pm

skywalkersaga

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Creative interpretation is fine! Where would the fun be otherwise? Plus, I think it's impossible to have 100% 'accuracy', even in 1/6 scale, so sometimes being slavish to that is pointless.

In summary, he looks great. : )


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215Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:33 am

Nekk-ra


You mean you don't want to extend you romance novels into the sci-fi genre, GubernatorFan? 😄

I've decided to give this a go, as soon as I receive the oil pastels I ordered. I'm creating an Anubis kit bash using the M36b as the body. As others have said, the M35 body it comes with is too big for the small head, and I have no problem saying I was influenced by the tall, lanky creatures from the 'Mummy Returns' film with Brendan Fraser. I'll let you know what happens, good or bad. 😵

216Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Sun Apr 19, 2020 12:03 pm

GubernatorFan

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skywalkersaga wrote:Creative interpretation is fine! Where would the fun be otherwise? Plus, I think it's impossible to have 100% 'accuracy', even in 1/6 scale, so sometimes being slavish to that is pointless. In summary, he looks great. : )

Thank you, I appreciate the support. If I'm trying to recreate a specific character from a specific source, I would normally try to get everything just right as best I can, although I take your point. Here I'm also helped/excused (if needed) by the fact that canon leaves plenty of blank space to fill up with creativity -- between what it showed only in cartoon form (which could be assumed to be simplified/streamlined/stylized) and what it didn't show at all (at which point one fan art is theoretically as good/valid as another, so one can choose or make up his/her own). Of course, once I cross into parody/satire territory, all bets are off... Smile

Nekk-ra wrote:You mean you don't want to extend you romance novels into the sci-fi genre, GubernatorFan? 😄 I've decided to give this a go, as soon as I receive the oil pastels I ordered. I'm creating an Anubis kit bash using the M36b as the body. As others have said, the M35 body it comes with is too big for the small head, and I have no problem saying I was influenced by the tall, lanky creatures from the 'Mummy Returns' film with Brendan Fraser. I'll let you know what happens, good or bad. 😵

Well, I started a Further Adventures of Darth Maul thread, for which see HERE, so it is conceivable that you will soon encounter satires or parodies of this kind, too, there. Smile

Good luck with the Anubis custom. If this will be your first oil pastel experiment, it might be advisable to read through this thread (at this point the relevant posts would be quite a few) to save yourself any trouble -- it works, but it requires some patience and consistency (neither of which is always my forte). If there are any questions I can answer, by all means ask and I shall try to answer (Ephiane is the real discoverer and expert on this method, but she doesn't seem to visit here much these days). I look forward to see what you end up with. By the way, in Egyptian art Anubis had the black jackal head, but the rest of the human body was a normal human color (in Egyptian artistic convention, brick red for males). Which would simplify things to a point, although that is not the look you'll be going for. Smile


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217Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:15 pm

Valiarde

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This weekend I will use oil pastels for the first time to create a character. Ovy was so nice to hand me some of his oils and I had an inhand view of his colorful chars.
I also read a lot of this thread and even though I have a jiaou I will try it...I only need neck mainly anyway.

Chhers guys for this awesome test thread


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218Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:02 pm

GubernatorFan

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Valiarde wrote:This weekend I will use oil pastels for the first time to create a character. Ovy was so nice to hand me some of his oils and I had an inhand view of his colorful chars.
I also read a lot of this thread and even though I have a jiaou I will try it...I only need neck mainly anyway.

Cheers guys for this awesome test thread

Thanks. Ovy is a great guy. Be careful with Jiaou, it can really tear easily on the surface, and there is no fixing that.


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219Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:28 pm

Valiarde

Valiarde
Thanks! Here is the result of my quick work from this evening:


Before This is the "black" Jiaou Doll figure...it is rather greyish than brown. On the right shoulder you can already see two test strokes with one of the three different browns Ovy gave me:
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This is already finished painting it, I didn't took pics in between (always forgetting these)
https://i.servimg.com/u/f96/17/81/67/29/_2020012.jpg


https://i.servimg.com/u/f96/17/81/67/29/_2020013.jpg

https://i.servimg.com/u/f96/17/81/67/29/_2020015.jpg


Pretty glad how it turned out. bounce
Need to paint the hands and feet with acrylics


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220Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:33 pm

skywalkersaga

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Nice job! It seems like it turned out well!


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221Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:57 pm

GubernatorFan

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Valiarde wrote:Pretty glad how it turned out. bounce Need to paint the hands and feet with acrylics

I agree, it turned out great, and it looks like you didn't scrape the surface, or otherwise succeeded with getting an even color. But you also need to crop or censor the genitals before posting the photo. I have changed them to links, but technically even that is questionable.


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222Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Sun Apr 26, 2020 5:05 pm

Ovy

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You did it, welcome to the circle! xD
Turned out great.
And thanks Gubernator for the nice words, haha, appreciated.

Looking at the pictures I have to think of the Anaconda Malt Liquor conspiracy from Black Dynamite. (Only watch to the end if you are ok with looking at the photos in the links above Wink )

223Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:14 pm

tbrisko


Here is my first attempt at painting/color matching a phicen body.  I used chalk pastels and massaged them into the body with a coarse paintbrush.

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224Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:42 pm

Stryker2011

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That Wolverine looks great. Nice job.


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225Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:44 pm

skywalkersaga

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Looks really nice!! I always like the look of the chalk pastels, but worry about the colour transfer side of things. It's a really beautiful effect, and since it's a shirtless figure, probably worth it. : )


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226Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:01 pm

tbrisko


Thanks all. The pastels don't seem to be transferring, though I obviously haven't tested it out - as you said not planning on putting a shirt on him.

I have been thinking about adding some scars and blood work with silicon caulk and oil paint, haven't decided if I am going that direction though.

Anyone tried punching hairs in with a crown punch tool?

227Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:10 pm

GubernatorFan

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Worked out very nicely, though I'm hesitant to try chalk pastel. Keep us posted on how it holds up, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed it will be fine. If you mix pigment (ideally silicone pigment but acrylic paint would work too) with silicone (e.g., silicone glue), you could add scars and blood, and if you don't like it you can probably peel it off (with some effort) later. Alternately, see the posts about various pens and inks above, although I don't know how much of this would still be applicable to a body treated with chalk pastel. As for punching hairs, I would imagine that even if successful, the method would be too laborious and impractical; but really, I don't have the tool or a body I'm willing to currently damage this much (if the experiment fails and causes damage), so I just don't know.


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228Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:40 am

tbrisko


GubernatorFan wrote:Worked out very nicely, though I'm hesitant to try chalk pastel. Keep us posted on how it holds up, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed it will be fine. If you mix pigment (ideally silicone pigment but acrylic paint would work too) with silicone (e.g., silicone glue), you could add scars and blood, and if you don't like it you can probably peel it off (with some effort) later. Alternately, see the posts about various pens and inks above, although I don't know how much of this would still be applicable to a body treated with chalk pastel. As for punching hairs, I would imagine that even if successful, the method would be too laborious and impractical; but really, I don't have the tool or a body I'm willing to currently damage this much (if the experiment fails and causes damage), so I just don't know.

Thanks GubernatorFan. Chalk can be a bit daunting but I find it is fairly forgivable. Pretty easy to hide all the "crimes".


I'll let everyone know, having said that I have some votoms toys I weathered using pastels over a decade ago that still look great. Obviously those were ABS and not silicon, but so far so good!

229Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:31 am

Ovy

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I remember Ephiane punching hair into (Mr Fantasy Beans?) legs, but she stopped as it took forever.

230Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Tue May 05, 2020 12:43 pm

tbrisko


Round 2!  This time around I used pastel washes to paint the body rather than scrub in the colors.  I was extremely surprised and pleased to see the pigment stain the body and seems permanent.  Post process I washed the body in dish detergent with no visible difference to the process. Apologies for the crummy iPhone pic, I recently moved - I haven't dug out my photography equipment yet.

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231Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Tue May 05, 2020 12:47 pm

skywalkersaga

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Wow, very cool process! :O And even more awesome looking results, thanks so much for sharing!

Stryker -- I wonder if this could be a way for you to make a more tanned body??


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232Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Tue May 05, 2020 1:21 pm

Stryker2011

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I’m curious to know what you mean by “washes”? Can you explain the process in more detail?


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233Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Tue May 05, 2020 1:22 pm

skywalkersaga

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I am presuming it means dissolving the pigment in water and then applying with a brush, but I will await tbrisko's explanation...


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234Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Tue May 05, 2020 1:48 pm

GubernatorFan

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I was curious about that too. And it did come out looking excellent!


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235Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Tue May 05, 2020 1:55 pm

tbrisko


Hi all,

Yes - a little more detail about the process:

I use artists soft chalk pastels - I diluted them in water roughly 1 part pigment (shaved off the pastel stick with either an emory board or x-acto) to 10 parts water.  I add a very small (one tiny drop) of dish detergent to break the surface tension when applied to the body.  If you don't add the detergent the wash will bead up and puddle on the body.

I then apply the wash to the body with a brush, working in sections to avoid pooling.  I blot off the excess with a clean microfiber cloth, leaving a natural pattern that blends in with the shapes of the body.

I did several coats, starting with blue/cyan for the shadows followed by reds/umber to give more depth.

I then went in with a mixture of a more concentrated cyan (about 5 parts water to 1 part pigment) to pick out the veins and then repeated that with red/umber for the nipples.

Lastly I washed the whole body in dish detergent and water to ensure it was well coated and that it wouldn't stain clothes, etc.

It takes a bit of practice to get comfortable with.  As you paint it on, you are removing about 80% of it.  Each coat you can barely tell anything was done, but after several coats build up you get a nice, natural depth of red/blue and umber.

The key is working in very translucent layers and not letting it pool or puddle too much in any place. Keep in mind if you don't like it, you can simply wipe it off until it sets. Having said that you have to work quickly as it only takes a 2-3 minutes for it to begin to set.

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GubernatorFan

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Thank you for the detailed explanation.


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237Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Tue May 05, 2020 2:02 pm

Stryker2011

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Thanks for the thorough breakdown. Very helpful.


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238Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Tue May 05, 2020 2:39 pm

skywalkersaga

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Thanks -- that is indeed very good to know. And by 'dish detergent' do you mean the powdered kind you put in a dishwasher, or the liquid soap kind? I presume the latter, but just want to double check.


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239Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Tue May 05, 2020 3:05 pm

tbrisko


skywalkersaga wrote:Thanks -- that is indeed very good to know. And by 'dish detergent' do you mean the powdered kind you put in a dishwasher, or the liquid soap kind? I presume the latter, but just want to double check.

You presumed correctly Smile Just a drop of dawn, etc. I believe the brand I had was seventh generation, but the chemistry should all be the same!

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skywalkersaga

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Great! Looking forward to trying it out . Smile


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241Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Fri May 08, 2020 1:23 am

gooboo


Got some pastels in the mail from Dick Blick today, and I tried them out on a previously dyed s12. After experimenting a bit I figured out how to get the color to lay down more evenly and painted the figure's right leg a nice dark brown color. I had already dyed this one a lighter brown with Rit Dye, so I suppose it's not the same as using the oil pastel on a new, pale body. This method seems to offer more control in terms of getting the color you want for very dark skinned bodies than using Rit Dye, but it takes more work to get an even tone throughout.

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Also, I didn't see it mentioned anywhere in this thread but there is a way to remove oil pastel from the bodies in case you have need of it. I just brushed on some Gamsol onto the back of this figure and it lifted the pastel off pretty easily. I didn't really try to clean it thoroughly since I was just testing it out, but I think you could remove nearly all of the pastel if you wanted to fix an error or start over again.

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The middle portion of her back was originally as dark as her shoulders, but the solvent lifted basically all of the pastel out of the silicone. Thought some people might find that useful.

242Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) - Page 6 Empty Re: Painting seamless bodies (updated June 2020) on Fri May 08, 2020 1:28 am

ThePhotogsBlog

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Nice work. What do you plan to do for the hands and feet?

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gooboo


Paint them with Vallejo acrylics.

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ThePhotogsBlog

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gooboo wrote:Paint them with Vallejo acrylics.

Have you tried this? I have not had good luck using paint on hands and feet.

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gooboo - Your oil-pastel experiment worked great. And thank you for reporting on the use of Gamsol to remove oil pastel if needed.

ThePhotogsBlog -- Yes, acrylics work on the plastics. Scroll through this thread and look at all the instances where I tried to match the oil pastel on the body with the acrylics on the hard plastic hands and feet. It is a bit of a challenge, and one has only so much patience or skill. Of course, you could scratch them or scrape them off (though not quite as easily as you would be able to rub off the oil pastel with a q-tip) the plastic surface, so you probably would want to coat them. I just got myself some Dullcote for my newest try.


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Nice work, gooboo!

And yes, I have painted tbleague hands with acrylics, and have also used powdered soft pastels with a varnish to seal them. For me the key was a) to first prime them in some way, b) to thin either the paint or varnish with airbrush thinner (even when applying manually) —this stuff makes the paint super thin as well as dry very fast, and c) using a small piece of cut up make-up sponge to quickly dab it on in several thin layers. I also have something like a toothpick or needle near by to pop any bubbles that might form between fingers before they dry.

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