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MarkEl wrote: I’m curious to know about the stability over time both in terms of colour and any material deterioration. Oil and some types of silicone don’t mix. For example, oil is often used as a destabiliser for silicone sealant to remove it. Some silicones are more oil resistant. No idea what Phicen’s recipe is though!
ReverendSpooky wrote:Damn GubernatorFan, that came out great. Since as of now TBL has only done that one thin AA body, I feel like this pastel trick is going to be the way to go for a while still, not to mention more exotic colors I'm sure will still be needed for fantasy and scifi figures. And seeing that Tyson head on the M30 body, he looks intense as hell.
dadrab wrote:I think the match to the sculpt is pretty damn good. Overall, the shading is very even, not splotchy. That's what impresses me the most.
Mighty fine experimental work. Hell, mighty fine finish work, in my book.
ReverendSpooky wrote:Damn, I think you got a great color match!!! Really impressive, and he looks perfect. And Yondu looks totally ready for the Guardians of the Galaxy pinup calendar
MarkEl wrote:Well done on the Yondu figure GubFan. The blue match looks well blended to me. Really cool results.
ReverendSpooky wrote:Damn, GubernatorFan, you really did a hell of a good job matching those head sculpts. You mentioned the issue with the noticeable difference in texture, but I think that's something we deal with on all plastic heads on rubber bodies. It's just that much more apparent to you since you're the one doing it.
GubernatorFan wrote:ReverendSpooky wrote:Damn, GubernatorFan, you really did a hell of a good job matching those head sculpts. You mentioned the issue with the noticeable difference in texture, but I think that's something we deal with on all plastic heads on rubber bodies. It's just that much more apparent to you since you're the one doing it.
Thank you very much, ReverendSpooky! In some earlier posts in this thread, Ephiane has actually outlined a technique to make the silicone surface a bit shinier, which might actually help in cases like these.
ReverendSpooky wrote:Oh, I remember! I'm itching to take a crack at it myself, but haven't had the right project yet. Still, quite inspired by all your success.
skywalkersaga wrote:These are all amazing! Gives me hope for some of my planned SW 'alien' customs.
That reminds me, is the technique for using the chalk pastels similar to that of applying the oil pastels, or do you have to grind them up and apply them with a brush or something? ... I like to handle my figures a lot, which is one of the reasons I haven't tried anything like this yet, I feared it would be too messy...
And GubernatorFan - What kind of powder are you using to 'set' the oil pastels?
GubernatorFan wrote: [...] I don't know that you have to use anything to "set" the oil pastels -- just rub them down a lot with a make-up sponge, until you notice they do not transfer on (say) a test piece of fabric or paper towel. I do use silicone finishing powder (NYX Professional Makeup Studio Finishing Powder Translucent Finish) because I would do so on the seamless bodies after washing them anyway (and you would have washed them to remove the protective powder before applying the oil pastels in the first place), but I am not certain if it is actually necessary after the silicone surface has been covered with the oil pastel. I figure, better safe than sorry. By the way, you could use starch or baby powder just as well.
The above works for the silicone flesh used by Phicen/TBLeague. Jiaou uses a different rubbery flesh, although in theory it works pretty much the same way, so we're guessing the above would apply. Similarly with other rubbery seamless coverings, but they might all be something else, so you might stumble upon something that defies the technique.
skywalkersaga wrote:Ahh, ok, I understand. I was confused and thought the powder was for the oil pastels, but it's for the actual body itself and is akin to you would use anyway to add to the surface so it doesn't get too 'sticky', is that right?
skywalkersaga wrote: I will bear in mind the potential differences between the silicone , jiaou type material, and the 'partially seamless' (rubber?) body coverings. I have no idea what the PopToys covering is made of, but I'll try to see if I can find out how effective the oil technique is on it (if it even works at all).
skywalkersaga wrote: Another question: has anyone attempted to use ink-based, permanent watercolours on these kinds of bodies? Ether the silicone or on other types of rubber?
skywalkersaga wrote: And finally, I saw that you'd tried permanent marker on the Jiaou experiment. I'm curious if one could colour an entire body, or even just the visible portions of it with a permanent marker? I'd even settle for being able to colour just (parts of) the rubber torso on jointed bodies that way. (I'm trying to do anything and everything to avoid having to do the 'immersion in fabric dye' method, lol.)
skywalkersaga wrote:Another question for GubernatorFan, and apologies if it is a daft one, but... does the Nyx finishing powder 'transfer' at all onto hands , gloves, or other figures (when handling a 'painted' seamless figure I mean)? I realize that the whole point of it is to 'finish' the makeup so it doesn't smudge, but does the powder *itself* rub off onto other things?
No, not after you have rubbed/brushed it onto the body (you will know you have done that when it basically blends in). It certainly doesn't damage anything, except your chances at flash photography (if you use flash, you will end up seeing chalky areas all over your figure -- or your own skin if you use it on yourself -- but there isn't much you can do about that). Remember to get the translucent version of the powder.
Peaches wrote:Gubernator you say you use a protective powder, and I see that stuff up for sale, but I'd like to know if baby powder is just as good? I got a lot of that on hand Oh, nevermind, I see you use translucent powder, which I presume would keep it from looking weirdly powdery and chalky
Stryker2011 wrote:Yeah, unfortunately, that’s the thing with this hobby. Trial and error gets to be VERY expensive, but that is pretty much the only way to do this. Tips and advice can only go so far. I have yet to attempt this body painting technique on a TBLeague body again (I tried it once, and it was an absolute disaster). I’d actually like to see a video tutorial on how folks have done this correctly.
skywalkersaga wrote:Apologies for spamming the thread, but I have some questions regarding *modifying* seamless bodies (not painting-related). I searched, but couldn't find a thread dedicated to that specifically -- should I start a new one, or is there already a space for discussing it somewhere that I missed? I just wanted to ask before going too far off-topic here...
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