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NEW PRODUCT: HHmodel & HaoYuTOYS: 1/6 Empire Legion-Imperial Dato 'Single Player & Deluxe Edition

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Stryker2011

Stryker2011
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HHmodel x HaoYuTOYS New Product: 1/6 Imperial Legion-Imperial Dato (HH18008 single version)

HHModel - NEW PRODUCT: HHmodel & HaoYuTOYS: 1/6 Empire Legion-Imperial Dato 'Single Player & Deluxe Edition 19392510

configuration list:
-1/6 head carving
-Movable body
-8 replacement hand garments:
-Beige top
-Grey cotton coat
-Pants
-Cloak
-Bracers (metal)
-Belt
-Shoes
-Greaves (metal)
-Helmet (metal)
-Armor (metal)

Accessories:
-Long blade with long blade
-Spear
-Platform
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HHmodel x HaoYuTOYS added: 1/6 Imperial Army-Imperial Dato (HH18008Single version)

Configuration list:
-1/6 head carving
-movable body
-8 hand replacement
Clothing:
-Beige top
-Grey cotton coat
-pants
-cloak
-Bracers (metal)
-belt
-Shoes
-Leg armor (metal)
-helmet (metal)
-armor (metal)
Accessory:
-Wide blade long sword (metal)
-Spear
-Platform
PROTOTYPE SHOWN, FINAL PRODUCT MAY BE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT

HHModel - NEW PRODUCT: HHmodel & HaoYuTOYS: 1/6 Empire Legion-Imperial Dato 'Single Player & Deluxe Edition 19393110
HHModel - NEW PRODUCT: HHmodel & HaoYuTOYS: 1/6 Empire Legion-Imperial Dato 'Single Player & Deluxe Edition 19394310
HHModel - NEW PRODUCT: HHmodel & HaoYuTOYS: 1/6 Empire Legion-Imperial Dato 'Single Player & Deluxe Edition 19394910
HHModel - NEW PRODUCT: HHmodel & HaoYuTOYS: 1/6 Empire Legion-Imperial Dato 'Single Player & Deluxe Edition 19395610
HHModel - NEW PRODUCT: HHmodel & HaoYuTOYS: 1/6 Empire Legion-Imperial Dato 'Single Player & Deluxe Edition 19400310
HHModel - NEW PRODUCT: HHmodel & HaoYuTOYS: 1/6 Empire Legion-Imperial Dato 'Single Player & Deluxe Edition 19400910
HHModel - NEW PRODUCT: HHmodel & HaoYuTOYS: 1/6 Empire Legion-Imperial Dato 'Single Player & Deluxe Edition 19401710
HHModel - NEW PRODUCT: HHmodel & HaoYuTOYS: 1/6 Empire Legion-Imperial Dato 'Single Player & Deluxe Edition 19402410
HHModel - NEW PRODUCT: HHmodel & HaoYuTOYS: 1/6 Empire Legion-Imperial Dato 'Single Player & Deluxe Edition 19403010


HHmodel x HaoYuTOYS New: 1/6 Imperial Legion-Imperial Dato (HH18009 Deluxe Edition)

HHModel - NEW PRODUCT: HHmodel & HaoYuTOYS: 1/6 Empire Legion-Imperial Dato 'Single Player & Deluxe Edition 19414810


configuration list:
-1/6 head carving
-Movable body
-8 replacement hand garments:
-Beige top
-Grey cotton coat
-Pants
-Cloak
-Bracers (metal)
-Belt
-Shoes
-Greaves (metal)
-Helmet (metal)
-Armor (metal)

Accessories:
-Long blade with long blade
-Spear
-Helmet (metal)
-Shield
-Scene floor
-------------------------------------------------- ------
HHmodel x HaoYuTOYS added: 1/6 Imperial Army-Imperial Dato (HH18009Deluxe Edition)

Configuration list:
-1/6 head carving
-movable body
-8 hand replacement
Clothing:
-Beige top
-Grey cotton coat
-pants
-cloak
-Bracers (metal)
-belt
-Shoes
-Leg armor (metal)
-helmet (metal)
-armor (metal)
Accessory:
-Wide blade long sword (metal)
-Spear
-helmet (metal)
-Shield
-Scene platform with logo
PROTOTYPE SHOWN, FINAL PRODUCT MAY BE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT

HHModel - NEW PRODUCT: HHmodel & HaoYuTOYS: 1/6 Empire Legion-Imperial Dato 'Single Player & Deluxe Edition 19414310
HHModel - NEW PRODUCT: HHmodel & HaoYuTOYS: 1/6 Empire Legion-Imperial Dato 'Single Player & Deluxe Edition 19415410
HHModel - NEW PRODUCT: HHmodel & HaoYuTOYS: 1/6 Empire Legion-Imperial Dato 'Single Player & Deluxe Edition 19420110
HHModel - NEW PRODUCT: HHmodel & HaoYuTOYS: 1/6 Empire Legion-Imperial Dato 'Single Player & Deluxe Edition 19420710
HHModel - NEW PRODUCT: HHmodel & HaoYuTOYS: 1/6 Empire Legion-Imperial Dato 'Single Player & Deluxe Edition 19421310
HHModel - NEW PRODUCT: HHmodel & HaoYuTOYS: 1/6 Empire Legion-Imperial Dato 'Single Player & Deluxe Edition 19421810
HHModel - NEW PRODUCT: HHmodel & HaoYuTOYS: 1/6 Empire Legion-Imperial Dato 'Single Player & Deluxe Edition 19424610
HHModel - NEW PRODUCT: HHmodel & HaoYuTOYS: 1/6 Empire Legion-Imperial Dato 'Single Player & Deluxe Edition 19425310
HHModel - NEW PRODUCT: HHmodel & HaoYuTOYS: 1/6 Empire Legion-Imperial Dato 'Single Player & Deluxe Edition 19430810
HHModel - NEW PRODUCT: HHmodel & HaoYuTOYS: 1/6 Empire Legion-Imperial Dato 'Single Player & Deluxe Edition 19431410


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djamesi


Thanks for sharing! I saw this on bbicn.com recently. I’m pretty sure it is supposed to represent Stephen Boyd as the tribune Messala in the 1959 film version of Ben-Hur (with Charlton Heston).

Stryker2011

Stryker2011
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djamesi wrote:Thanks for sharing! I saw this on bbicn.com recently. I’m pretty sure it is supposed to represent Stephen Boyd as the tribune Messala in the 1959 film version of Ben-Hur (with Charlton Heston).

That’s what I thought too. If his hair was darker, it would be pretty good for that.


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HHModel - NEW PRODUCT: HHmodel & HaoYuTOYS: 1/6 Empire Legion-Imperial Dato 'Single Player & Deluxe Edition Bnp4ba10
Credit to greygoose for the signature card

SnakeyJones


djamesi wrote:Thanks for sharing! I saw this on bbicn.com recently. I’m pretty sure it is supposed to represent Stephen Boyd as the tribune Messala in the 1959 film version of Ben-Hur (with Charlton Heston).

Thanks for that, was realy curious to know who the headsculpt is based on

Admitedly Stephen Boyd and the movie are a bit before my time, but the portrait has such an archetypal "old Hollywood" look to it that i find interesting.

shazzdan

shazzdan
It is very pretty but I prefer proper Romans rather than Hollywood ones.


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JohnByng


Wow! I can imagine Hannibal saying : "Gee Maw, ain't he purrrty!"

This gent would brighten up even the dreariest of battlefields. I wonder if he has silver panties? Smile




GubernatorFan

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I was thinking more along the lines of Burt Lancaster, but you guys are probably correct. I can't quite place the "Dato" reference, and a quick search turned up nothing very informative. I do like this set. There is some debate to what extent there was such a thing as parade armor, but if there was, this would be it -- or at least the general feel of it.


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JohnByng


It is possible that this might be an imagined parade armour for an emperor, but surely not a centurion?

I wonder if the character is from a computer game as it says Single Player in the title? However, it may simply be a translation problem and mean Regular Figure as opposed to the Deluxe Figure variant?

I might get the cuirasse and pteryges for one of my fantasy warriors.

Stryker2011

Stryker2011
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It definitely seems to be based on Stephen Boyd from Ben-Hur — with some minor changes made here and there.

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HHModel - NEW PRODUCT: HHmodel & HaoYuTOYS: 1/6 Empire Legion-Imperial Dato 'Single Player & Deluxe Edition Bnp4ba10
Credit to greygoose for the signature card

Asta

Asta
GubernatorFan wrote:I can't quite place the "Dato" reference, and a quick search turned up nothing very informative.

The term confused posters on the Chinese BBICN forum as well, though some of them knew it was a Malaysian title. One of the translations from the site came out as 'knighthood'.

There's a wiki page with this info:

Dato' is the most common title awarded in Malaysia.

...

Dato' may only be conferred by a hereditary royal ruler of one of the nine Malay states. The wife of a hereditary Dato' is addressed by courtesy as To' Puan.


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shazzdan

shazzdan
It is a pretty decent rendition of the Hollywood costume and the head sculpt is a good likeness.


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GubernatorFan

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Thanks for sharing what you found out, Asta. I suppose it is relevant enough (however remotely) to explain it.


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Asta

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GubernatorFan wrote:Thanks for sharing what you found out, Asta. I suppose it is relevant enough (however remotely) to explain it.

This thing is weird on a few levels.

1) That they were inspired by a 1950s Hollywood-Spaghetti Roman 'epic'.

2) That they weren't inspired enough to make an actual tribute to the tribune, but made various changes.

3) So rather than making a figure from a 1950s film, they made a figure inspired by a 1950s film that would have to be adapted by the customer in order to make him a representation from the film.


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JohnByng


Asta wrote:
GubernatorFan wrote:Thanks for sharing what you found out, Asta. I suppose it is relevant enough (however remotely) to explain it.

This thing is weird on a few levels.

1) That they were inspired by a 1950s Hollywood-Spaghetti Roman 'epic'.

2) That they weren't inspired enough to make an actual tribute to the tribune, but made various changes.

3) So rather than making a figure from a 1950s film, they made a figure inspired by a 1950s film that would have to be adapted by the customer in order to make him a representation from the film.

All good points. I would have preferred a closer depiction of the actual (still fantasy) costume and a better likeness of Stephen Boyd than this more flowery version. I agree with you that what they have done is weird!

ahbake


shazzdan wrote:It is very pretty but I prefer proper Romans rather than Hollywood ones.

I'm by far no expert in Roman armour, but this doesn't seem too far-fetched for a parade style armour...
I'm actually quite tempted to get it, Ben Hur is a brilliant movie.

shazzdan

shazzdan
Romans never had parade armour. It was a notion invented by the Victorians.


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GubernatorFan

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shazzdan wrote:Romans never had parade armour. It was a notion invented by the Victorians.

So what do you call armor that is so ornate that it would be completely impractical and/or wasted in battle? Like the Philip II shield from Vergina, with the finely carved/sculpted Herakles etc? Although I suppose maybe it was just a really fancy piece of equipment that may or may not have come into actual use depending on the needs and priorities of the owner.


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Armour was not only about protection, it was a useful way of identifying friendly forces or an individual.

I don't know whether parade armour existed or not, but a man like Phillip II might have worn elaborately decorated amour and equipment so that he would stand out on the battlefield.

shazzdan

shazzdan
GubernatorFan wrote:
shazzdan wrote:Romans never had parade armour. It was a notion invented by the Victorians.

So what do you call armor that is so ornate that it would be completely impractical and/or wasted in battle? Like the Philip II shield from Vergina, with the finely carved/sculpted Herakles etc? Although I suppose maybe it was just a really fancy piece of equipment that may or may not have come into actual use depending on the needs and priorities of the owner.

You've never handled any of these if you think they are impractical in battle. There are plenty of examples of heavily decorated equipment with battle damage. For the ancients, battle WAS parade. The whole point was to get noticed on the battlefield and to intimidate the enemy. Look up the concept of "conspicuous consumption". To gain renown and prestige, you get the most expensive stuff, use it up, throw it away, and get more. They ate meals with gold dust and crushed pearls sprinkled on top. They purchased the most expensive clothing and only wore it once.


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skywalkersaga

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Now I’m thinking of that quote from ‘Parade’s End’, ‘there will be no more parades!’. ;p

And welcome, ahbake! Smile I agree, Ben Hur is a classic. One of many I associate with my dad, since it was always a fave of his I used to watch it with him back in the day. :’)

As others have said, it’s an odd figure in certain respects — I kind of wonder if it’s meant to be so overly ostentatious as it’s trying to appeal to the ‘Three Kingdoms’ collectors? Like maybe they looked at the armour in the film and said ‘not fantastical and over-the-top enough, needs more bling’. ;D

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ahbake


Thank skywalkersaga!

Going back to the "parade" comment, I was thinking of something KP's Fabio mentioned when presenting their Roman General (had him for a while, beautiful figure), that the helmet was a "ceremonial/parade" helmet, not meant to be worn in battle. So that got me thinking about what was worn during triumphs and parades.
We know that legionaries were given white tunics for the triumphs, and we also know that the attic helmet was worn by praetorians and officers, so this very ornate get-up seemed quite appropriate for a "parade".
I also remember reading somewhere that a famous statue in Spain was supposed to have been originally painted in bright colours, especially the musculata.

Anyway, I guess to me this figure seems well within the range of possibilities. Which is a moot point anyway, 'cause if I did get it, it would be because it reminds of Messala! Wink

GubernatorFan

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shazzdan wrote:You've never handled any of these if you think they are impractical in battle. There are plenty of examples of heavily decorated equipment with battle damage. For the ancients, battle WAS parade. The whole point was to get noticed on the battlefield and to intimidate the enemy. Look up the concept of "conspicuous consumption". To gain renown and prestige, you get the most expensive stuff, use it up, throw it away, and get more. They ate meals with gold dust and crushed pearls sprinkled on top. They purchased the most expensive clothing and only wore it once.

Yes, to a point, although that tendency need not be considered universal or consistent and does not preclude some armor being meant more for show than function, and being worn accordingly. I thought they dissolved the pearls in vinegar or something like that.


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shazzdan

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GubernatorFan wrote:Yes, to a point, although that tendency need not be considered universal or consistent and does not preclude some armor being meant more for show than function, and being worn accordingly. I thought they dissolved the pearls in vinegar or something like that.
Who said anything about it being universal? It applies to the Romans, which is all that matters in this context. There was no such thing as Roman parade armour. The armour they wore in triumphs was the same armour they wore in battle. A commander might not expect to see direct fighting but that didn't mean that his fancy helmet wasn't worn on the battlefield. The lower ranked officers and NCOs most definitely wore them in battle and they considered it a virtue for them to get damaged. Anyone who came out of a battle with no damage to their gear was accused of not pulling their weight if not of outright cowardice. Damaged armour gave them "bragging rights"; the more damaged, the better. They would get the armourer to fix it afterwards but would not want it looking "like new". Undamaged equipment marks you out as a rookie, or worse, a coward.


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ahbake


I'm wondering if these guys might give us a Laurence Olivier Crassus look-a-like from Spartacus... he, too, had quite a flamboyant armour.

shazzdan

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ahbake wrote:I'm wondering if these guys might give us a Laurence Olivier Crassus look-a-like from Spartacus... he, too, had quite a flamboyant armour.

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