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skywalkersaga


I have used gooboo's suggestion of white spirits (for oil paint thinning) to remove oil pastel from the tbleague bodies. I apply it with a large paintbrush, and just keep gently 'scrubbing' it until the colour comes off....could be worth a try?

Diana


Hey everyone! Thank you for the replies! (For some reason the subforum didn't show me the new posts.)

I've looked into how to remove glue. I'll try coconut oil first. Plan B is alcohol (isopropanol). If that fails... fingernails it is, but I'm too worried to tear the skin to start with that. I will report!

@Mark, I've actually thought about using this body for a scarred character. Even thought about changing the story of the character this body was intended for. I'm kinda liking the idea... Imagine! I might dunk her into a Rit Dye bath. Those "scars" would probably not take the stain well... Too exciting to not try. Smile

But I first want to know how to remove the glue. I'll start with a small section.

@Gub, I'm not done with the kinesiology tape experiment. But I might wait for my new work space to be ready some time this spring hopefully. Of course starting with cling foil could be worth trying, but I was worried for the added thickness and possible restriction in movement...

83discussion - Staining and Cleaning (continuously updated) - Page 4 Empty How to remove pencil marks Sun May 22, 2022 12:27 am

maxman


I'm currently having custom clothes being made for my Phicen figurines. The wonderful clothes-maker has bought a Phicen S39 to help with the task. She had to use pencil to draw on the figure, and now wonders how she can clean the pencil marks off.

Any ideas? Or would the usual wash, mild soap, leave to air dry, remove pencil marks?

On another note, her Phicen S39 has a tearing nipple just about 3 weeks after receiving it. I vaguely know there are silicone-friendly glue which some people here use. What brand is it?

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maxman wrote:I'm currently having custom clothes being made for my Phicen figurines. The wonderful clothes-maker has bought a Phicen S39 to help with the task. She had to use pencil to draw on the figure, and now wonders how she can clean the pencil marks off.

Any ideas? Or would the usual wash, mild soap, leave to air dry, remove pencil marks?

On another note, her Phicen S39 has a tearing nipple just about 3 weeks after receiving it. I vaguely know there are silicone-friendly glue which some people here use. What brand is it?
I don't know that there is anything that can get the pencil off. Maybe clear mineral spirits? But anyway, pencil is notoriously one of the few things that actually stains these surfaces effectively. Whatever method she uses, she should reapply protective powder to keep the surface from getting tacky and more easily damaged.

I also don't know that there is any glue that would completely fix a tearing nipple (how on earth did that happen?), but in principle, silicon glue of some sort (there is some made for home improvement by GE = General Electric) ought to be a step in the right direction.

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maxman wrote:I'm currently having custom clothes being made for my Phicen figurines. The wonderful clothes-maker has bought a Phicen S39 to help with the task. She had to use pencil to draw on the figure, and now wonders how she can clean the pencil marks off.

Any ideas? Or would the usual wash, mild soap, leave to air dry, remove pencil marks?

On another note, her Phicen S39 has a tearing nipple just about 3 weeks after receiving it. I vaguely know there are silicone-friendly glue which some people here use. What brand is it?

I don't know that there is anything that can get the pencil off. Maybe clear mineral spirits? But anyway, pencil is notoriously one of the few things that actually stains these surfaces effectively. Whatever method she uses, she should reapply protective powder to keep the surface from getting tacky and more easily damaged.

I also don't know that there is any glue that would completely fix a tearing nipple (how on earth did that happen?), but in principle, silicon glue of some sort (there is some made for home improvement by GE = General Electric) ought to be a step in the right direction.


I did a search on mineral spirits and was pointed to white spirit. It was described as "Good solvency for oil, grease, wax, silicone and general dirt. Do not let product come in contact with rubber." I'm guessing, Phicen is made of silicone, and from another thread, Jiaou is some kind of TPE.

My clothes-maker found the nipple tearing off when she undressed the S39 to make my clothes. It would appear to be like this out-of-the-box. I haven't seen it for myself yet.

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maxman wrote:I did a search on mineral spirits and was pointed to white spirit. It was described as "Good solvency for oil, grease, wax, silicone and general dirt. Do not let product come in contact with rubber." I'm guessing, Phicen is made of silicone, and from another thread, Jiaou is some kind of TPE.

My clothes-maker found the nipple tearing off when she undressed the S39 to make my clothes. It would appear to be like this out-of-the-box. I haven't seen it for myself yet.
No, despite early advertisement to that effect, Phicen/TBLeague bodies are made of a type of TPE, not silicone. This has been confirmed.


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87discussion - Staining and Cleaning (continuously updated) - Page 4 Empty Thanks Fri Apr 07, 2023 8:36 am

Baristapunk


Kayla wrote:Thank you for sharing your experiences on staining and cleaning.  discussion - Staining and Cleaning (continuously updated) - Page 4 D012 Many have probably already had painful experiences with discoloration of clothing - you can't always only wear white clothes (even if I luckily like white and my 1:6 scale girls and ladies too).


Over many years I have gained experience in the durable dyeing of 1:1 scale clothing (for people). And then fixing salt is used to fix the color and, if necessary, supplemented with normal table salt (if the amount of fixing salt is not enough).

So I transferred these experiences to the 1:6 scale clothing. I first wash the clothes I bought with liquid detergent for silk and wool (very mild detergent). Each item of clothing comes in an extra cereal bowl (for better observation). In several rinses I watch whether the paint is still bleeding. discussion - Staining and Cleaning (continuously updated) - Page 4 A015 When little or no more color is bleeding out, I add table salt to the rinse bath to fixate and let it soak for a while. And then rinse one last time with clean water and let it dry.

Once I was too impatient with a new pair of jeans - a big mistake!  discussion - Staining and Cleaning (continuously updated) - Page 4 E02110 I really wanted to know immediately whether the fit was right and immediately tried the jeans on a Phicen Lady. And her legs and feet (seamless) were instantly blue! Of course, I immediately washed the body with water and a mild shower gel and the discoloration became a little lighter. Then I put the Phicen Lady in a tall cylinder with distilled water for about  2  weeks, which covered the discoloration. Fortunately, the color has been completely removed.
Caution - please do not use normal tap water (for soaking)! discussion - Staining and Cleaning (continuously updated) - Page 4 B042discussion - Staining and Cleaning (continuously updated) - Page 4 B036
In my first attempt with tap water (a long time ago) the silicone skin turned reddish brown because the water contained traces of minerals. If you leave the body in the water for a few days, it takes on the color of the minerals (even if the water looks clear). But I was also able to completely remove this discoloration with distilled water. Lots of trial and error experience!

GubernatorFan

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Baristapunk wrote:
Thank you for sharing your experiences on staining and cleaning.  discussion - Staining and Cleaning (continuously updated) - Page 4 D012 Many have probably already had painful experiences with discoloration of clothing - you can't always only wear white clothes (even if I luckily like white and my 1:6 scale girls and ladies too).


Over many years I have gained experience in the durable dyeing of 1:1 scale clothing (for people). And then fixing salt is used to fix the color and, if necessary, supplemented with normal table salt (if the amount of fixing salt is not enough).

So I transferred these experiences to the 1:6 scale clothing. I first wash the clothes I bought with liquid detergent for silk and wool (very mild detergent). Each item of clothing comes in an extra cereal bowl (for better observation). In several rinses I watch whether the paint is still bleeding. discussion - Staining and Cleaning (continuously updated) - Page 4 A015 When little or no more color is bleeding out, I add table salt to the rinse bath to fixate and let it soak for a while. And then rinse one last time with clean water and let it dry.

Once I was too impatient with a new pair of jeans - a big mistake!  discussion - Staining and Cleaning (continuously updated) - Page 4 E02110 I really wanted to know immediately whether the fit was right and immediately tried the jeans on a Phicen Lady. And her legs and feet (seamless) were instantly blue! Of course, I immediately washed the body with water and a mild shower gel and the discoloration became a little lighter. Then I put the Phicen Lady in a tall cylinder with distilled water for about  2  weeks, which covered the discoloration. Fortunately, the color has been completely removed.
Caution - please do not use normal tap water (for soaking)! discussion - Staining and Cleaning (continuously updated) - Page 4 B042discussion - Staining and Cleaning (continuously updated) - Page 4 B036
In my first attempt with tap water (a long time ago) the silicone skin turned reddish brown because the water contained traces of minerals. If you leave the body in the water for a few days, it takes on the color of the minerals (even if the water looks clear). But I was also able to completely remove this discoloration with distilled water. Lots of trial and error experience!
Practice makes perfect. Thank you for sharing your experience and recommendations regarding treatment of clothes and stained figures. In terms of the seamless body, time by itself might also achieve the desired effect of the stain fading, after a couple of initial washes (perhaps even without).


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LongLostMan


Hi everyone, I’ve been a member here for a while now but haven’t been active on the forum much so I’m sorry if this question has been raised before. I have a Phicen TBleague M33 still in its box and I bought him some nice clothes but I’m terrified of them staining him. Obviously I will wash everything first as per the instructions here but I also wondered if one of these white bodysuits would help prevent it. Any advice would be appreciated, thank you in advance.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144482999994?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=zNW4MPxBSzW&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=wQ9g2aT2RJO&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

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LongLostMan wrote:Hi everyone, I’ve been a member here for a while now but haven’t been active on the forum much so I’m sorry if this question has been raised before. I have a Phicen TBleague M33 still in its box and I bought him some nice clothes but I’m terrified of them staining him. Obviously I will wash everything first as per the instructions here but I also wondered if one of these white bodysuits would help prevent it. Any advice would be appreciated, thank you in advance.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144482999994?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=zNW4MPxBSzW&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=wQ9g2aT2RJO&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Hi LLM,

In principle, if you can fit this bodysuit and the clothes on top onto the body, it ought to be helpful. Pleather and dark black and blue clothing tend to stain the most. Anything that keeps the body from making contact with a staining material would help; but in my experience, interposing some strips of clear plastic wrap was not very successful -- it is as if the dye found a way around it! Maybe I just did not cover enough of the surface. 
May I ask what type of stuff you intend to put on the body?

Also keep in mind that, while it can be extremely disconcerting when it happens, staining on TBLeague / Phicen TPE surfaces tends to go away with a good wash with warm water and soap (remember to dry the body carefully and apply a fresh layer of protective powder of some sort -- even starch works), or sometimes even if the body is just left to its own devices for a few days.


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I have a pair of dark blue jeans that I did the white vinegar/water trick as described by Stryker in a different post I can’t find ATM. It took about 3 overall cycles (1 day in vinegar/water, then wash in warm soapy water, repeat until the dye no longer shows in the water/on paper towels). But it doesn’t stain anymore, so that is something to keep in mind depending on the materials involved.

Stryker2012

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Hi LongLostMan, and welcome. Always, and I do mean ALWAYS — pretreat any clothes you plan to put on these figures. As MM&I mentioned, white distilled vinegar (just a small amount works) mixed with cold water and soak the clothes for a day — you can also just use laundry detergent and cold water. Rinse and soak the clothes for several hours in cold water. Rinse again — thoroughly. Squeeze out the excess water and lay everything out on a paper towel to dry. Once dry check to see if any dye still leached out onto the paper towel — if so, repeat everything above until nothing comes off onto the paper towel. I’ve been doing this technique for years without any issues.


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LongLostMan


GubernatorFan wrote:
LongLostMan wrote:Hi everyone, I’ve been a member here for a while now but haven’t been active on the forum much so I’m sorry if this question has been raised before. I have a Phicen TBleague M33 still in its box and I bought him some nice clothes but I’m terrified of them staining him. Obviously I will wash everything first as per the instructions here but I also wondered if one of these white bodysuits would help prevent it. Any advice would be appreciated, thank you in advance.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/144482999994?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=zNW4MPxBSzW&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=wQ9g2aT2RJO&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Hi LLM,

In principle, if you can fit this bodysuit and the clothes on top onto the body, it ought to be helpful. Pleather and dark black and blue clothing tend to stain the most. Anything that keeps the body from making contact with a staining material would help; but in my experience, interposing some strips of clear plastic wrap was not very successful -- it is as if the dye found a way around it! Maybe I just did not cover enough of the surface. 
May I ask what type of stuff you intend to put on the body?

Also keep in mind that, while it can be extremely disconcerting when it happens, staining on TBLeague / Phicen TPE surfaces tends to go away with a good wash with warm water and soap (remember to dry the body carefully and apply a fresh layer of protective powder of some sort -- even starch works), or sometimes even if the body is just left to its own devices for a few days.
Thanks for your advice, it’s much appreciated. I have posted a link to the outfit that I purchased for my figure below, it is a dark grey pinstripe suit.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/384895591087?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=mYSor_kbS-G&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=wQ9g2aT2RJO&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

LongLostMan


Thank you @MeMyself&I and @Stryker2012 for the welcome and your advice. I’m having a little bit of difficulty using the forum on my iPad so please bare with me, iI’m not very computer savvy to be honest lol.

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LongLostMan wrote:Thanks for your advice, it’s much appreciated. I have posted a link to the outfit that I purchased for my figure below, it is a dark grey pinstripe suit.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/384895591087?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=mYSor_kbS-G&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=wQ9g2aT2RJO&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Cool looking suit. Covering the body up so much, are you sure you need to use a seamless body? As the listing notes, M31 is recommended, which is the slimmest TBLeague body; I can't quite make out what they mean about M33 (which I consider the standard, although I wish it didn't need the evil ankle extenders to reach a greater height), and I see they indicate M34 and M35 won't fit. Anyway, I do not recall these being a staining problem, but it has been awhile and I can't remember exactly what VOR Toys article of clothing I had, other than the ones linked below, which are not of the same type. In principle, the white shirt should offer enough protection for the upper part of the body, so you might only need to protect the lower part of the body. But if the bodysuit fits and if the other clothing fits on top of it (it might be a very tight fit), that should be fine. In fact, it would be theoretically easier to slide on the upper layers of the clothing over cloth than over the TPE flesh/skin.

https://onesixthfigures.forumotion.com/t1403p200-clothing-tbleague-phicen-seamless-bodies-updated-part-xxx-december-2022#65243


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This is my first seamless body and being an old Action Man collector I am used to dressing my figures but I totally get what you are saying. Those bodysuits are supposed to be skin tight and are very thin so I’m hoping they don’t make clothes too tight and make it easier to slide clothing over the top like you said.. I didn’t understand what they meant about the M33 figure in the description either mate but if this suit doesn’t fit then I am thinking of buying a World Box figure for it instead as I have been looking to get one anyway. Thanks again for your help mate, it’s much appreciated.
Edit: I forgot to thank you for sharing the link, lots of great photos and tips and tricks to read about, thanks.

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Happy to help, and hope it works out. And that you'll be showing your creation here.


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