GubernatorFan wrote: ministryofwrath wrote: Stryker2011 wrote:Let’s keep things civil, folks.
So my post was deleted and you're calling what I said uncivil?
That's uncalled for and nothing was uncivil about what I said, biologically speaking and factually speaking what I said was true regarding peoples ideals and opinions about bodies.
I think you owe me a apology, someone says I'm incorrect with nothing to back their claims, then I post legitimate logically thought out explanations, within my field of knowledge and know how, and you say it's uncivil?
we are adults and can have different points of views, but when my posts are deleted and I'm called civil we have a problem
From what I can tell on the basis of what is currently visible, two different
opinions (that this is a fatter body than before and that it is not really fat overall) were expressed innocently enough, but then a now missing third statement of disagreement was posted in a manner that was uncivil and therefore inappropriate. Moderators have a right and a responsibility to edit/remove inappropriate content. This cannot be about facts, given the subjectivity of the question. And if you are basing this on some sort of scientific classification of ideal body mass or whatever within your field of knowledge, then surely that must have been expressed in an unscientific and potentially inflammatory manner; the word "fat" is itself a little tasteless and potentially insulting, depending on context; if there was anything scientific or objective about it, surely there would have been a more professional term, just as there are various social euphemisms (which are usually deployed in more characteristic cases than this one). Moderators do not intervene readily and without cause, which means that there was a problem that needed to be removed. Differences of opinion are natural, inevitable, and welcome, but we do have to keep things civil and in good taste. That may seem subjective, and perhaps is, but we have to be practical. While you are understandably annoyed, please do not escalate this, it is really not worth it. Who would have thought a Super Duck set is really "explosive"?
Being offended by something doesn't make it offensive in nature opinion that might be unfortunate for some who it concerns or people who decide to get up in arms about something touchy is not my problem, it's just the nature of things, how on earth can using terms and pointing out social norms get me in trouble, it wasn't uncivil, and it wasn't in bad taste.
For example, all these bodies for the models are idealized, because of a STANDARD society has for bodies, society demands certain idealized preproteins, some are sought after others rejected and less popular, pointing out what I did is literally in line with what these bodies represent, pointing out certain measurements would only belong to certain people of certain backgrounds, values and fitness levels is a unfortunate truth, but simply because it offends someone that this is reality doesn't mean I should get my post deleted and be told I'm uncivil, again we are all adults here, unless someone wants to go out of their way to get offended it doesn't mean a widely held opinion with some facts thrown in should cause me to be treated as though I did something wrong.
it angers me that I have personally overcome bad life styles, where I had a undesirable look to getting in shape with a low BMI and abs, yet I get censored for pointing out something I've literally lived and experienced while being called uncivil.
yeah I'm get to say fat if I want to, and you as the guardians of the website can ban me if you like, but don't pretend I've done something distasteful, what I said was called in to doubt, I defended what I said with opinions and some facts.
if you didn't want this subject debated or brought up, you could have blocked both comments and said this isn't a website for debate or difference of opinions on touchy subjects, but to isolate what I said, call it distasteful and uncivil, please, that's just holding a viewpoint and forcing it apron me because you have the power to do so.
I appreciate the work you guys put in to this website, it's one of my favorites, but I never expected to run in to this kind of problem here and get isolated and called out for opinions and sharing experiences.
Whatever the case, wish you well and good luck.