Sand Troopers (pic heavy)

scalawag wrote:whilst in the armour due to the restricted movement and vision.

Paul

I guess that would explain why born and bred soldiers couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn, but a kid born on a farm could beat them easily.

Interesting. Paul, I remember seeing somewhere that 501st Legion approval is based on whether the overall look is correct rather than whether the materials and underlying structure are movie prop-accurate. But perhaps I misunderstood, or the UK regulations really are more stringent. I mean, while you were part of the EU, there were regulations on the curvature of bananas, right? Sorry, just my attempt of a lame joke (though this has been held up to us as an example of silly EU regulation).

Stryker2011 wrote:

scalawag wrote:whilst in the armour due to the restricted movement and vision.

Paul

I guess that would explain why born and bred soldiers couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn, but a kid born on a farm could beat them easily.

Yeah definitely. You can't really sit down in it, you can bend forward a little bit but if you drop something there is no way you can pick it up easily. As far as vision goes well the Ewoks did so well because anything less than 3"6' in height can't be seen at all once it is closer than about 8" away and you have a bit but not much peripheral vision. oh yeah and that sight on the top of E-11 blasters, well its pretty much for show as you can't really see through it with the helmet on.

Its an experience to wear it thats for sure.

Paul

GubernatorFan wrote:Interesting. Paul, I remember seeing somewhere that 501st Legion approval is based on whether the overall look is correct rather than whether the materials and underlying structure are movie prop-accurate. But perhaps I misunderstood, or the UK regulations really are more stringent. I mean, while you were part of the EU, there were regulations on the curvature of bananas, right? Sorry, just my attempt of a lame joke (though this has been held up to us as an example of silly EU regulation).

I think the UK Garrison is particularly pedantic about it. Here they look at every thing minutely even down to things like how the joints on the leg and arm pieces have been made, they have to be butt joints not lapped I believe.  That level of accuracy would be ok if I was deciding to do it for myself, but not when it is someone else telling me I have to have it that way    

I'm not knocking them and I know that they do a lot of free work for charity, and produce some great research into the uniforms etc... but I think here in the UK they could be a little more inclusive.

I have talked to a couple of 501st members from other countries and they seem a lot more relaxed about things to be honest.  

I have no intention of joining the 501st here in the UK.  I was in a group that looked at authentic costumes in a similar way to the 501st do here when I was reenacting American Civil War a few years back.  I won't say that that sort of strict ruling on what is ok and what is not breads elitism, but I don't like the person I became when I was part of it.

Paul

Sounds like the same problem I ran into playing volleyball in a bar-league. Some teams were so anal retentive about every tiny rule, it took the fun out of it. I mean, seriously, we were playing on a bar league. Half the people playing were already a little drunk... “They hit that with the flat of their fingers, not the tips!” Yada yada yada! “Dude. He’s drunk. I’m surprised he hit at all.”

Yep, that does sound too pedantic (and I say so as the self-styled emperor of the four corners of the pedantic universe -- perhaps I've been an impostor all along). Interesting that your have reenactments of the American Civil War (aka The War Between the States or The War of Northern Aggression). Must be interesting ... from a British point of view that ought to be just a bunch of bloody rebels fighting another bunch of bloody rebels.

Stryker2011 wrote:Sounds like the same problem I ran into playing volleyball in a bar-league. Some teams were so anal retentive about every tiny rule, it took the fun out of it. I mean, seriously, we were playing on a bar league. Half the people playing were already a little drunk... “They hit that with the flat of their fingers, not the tips!” Yada yada yada! “Dude. He’s drunk. I’m surprised he hit at all.”

Sounds horribly familiar sadly

Paul

GubernatorFan wrote:Yep, that does sound too pedantic (and I say so as the self-styled emperor of the four corners of the pedantic universe -- perhaps I've been an impostor all along). Interesting that your have reenactments of the American Civil War (aka The War Between the States or The War of Northern Aggression). Must be interesting ... from a British point of view that ought to be just a bunch of bloody rebels fighting another bunch of bloody rebels.

Well I like my detail, and even having things correct where no one sees, but 501st UK stretch it that bit too far for me.  
I think too that they have a difficult relationship with Shepperton Design Studios due to their own links with Lucus Film and now Disney and the law suits which have gone on with Andrew Ainsworth.  
They certainly don't recommend SDS for anything, and I suspect I would have a hard time getting my armour through clearance simply because of where it comes from.  They ask the make of armour as part of the clearance process here.  

Still, instead of spending the next year building an armour kit to a minute level of film accuracy for clearance, i'm out trooping in a great set of armour anyway    

I loved reenacting The War Between The States  when I was younger, used to bore people with the level of detail I would go into   I loved that it was photographed (although I learned quickly that the camera does lie )  and the diaries from the ordinary soldiers.  It meant you could build up a good knowledge about the life of the common soldier at that time.

You would think that Great Britain would see it as rebels fighting one another, but there are all sorts of political vested interests here in the UK at the time which make it very interesting if somewhat more complex a relationship.  But thats a discussion for another day and thread lol.

Now Sand Troopers?????

Paul

Indeed! Didn't mean to add to the distraction. Sand Troopers, people!

Paul

Interesting discussion and I'm sorry I missed it. I know a few Civil War re-enactors and, while very nice people, they're a bit...how shall I put this gently...obtuse. They do get down to the minutia (or bogged in the damn weeds, where I come from) of everything up to and including the thread count in a blanket. That's a gear I ain't got...but harbor the same thoughts about organized religion, so no further elaboration is needed.

Just do the right thing and it'll all be OK.

I think it's great looking armor and pretty damn cool, to boot.

very nice collection!!! I'm not enough a specialist to give any judgment over the helmets, but I defnitely appreciate the star wars props fest going on here!!!