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Dyeing Phicen figures with Rit Dye (NSFW)

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Seventhbrother


GubernatorFan wrote:I think he turned out very well.

Thank you so much! It came together fairly quickly once my vision was complete. The head sculpt is by Waruna Weligamage. It was painted by Figuremasters and I did some touch ups on the head band and flocked the hair and beard for more realism. The styling and concept is a mashup of the Netflix show and comic book versions of Luke Cage.

skywalkersaga


Wow, he is absolutely fantastic!!! 👏👏👏

Seventhbrother


skywalkersaga wrote:Wow, he is absolutely fantastic!!! 👏👏👏

Thank you so much!

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Stryker2011


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That’s an awesome Luke Cage. I’m not seeing much of a difference between the head and body.

Seventhbrother


Stryker2011 wrote:That’s an awesome Luke Cage. I’m not seeing much of a difference between the head and body.

Thank you! I appreciate all

Diana

Diana
He looks AWESOME! It's so easy to imagine him being in a comic book looking exactly like that. Just with black outlines. Very Happy

Seventhbrother


Diana wrote:He looks AWESOME! It's so easy to imagine him being in a comic book looking exactly like that. Just with black outlines. Very Happy

That's an amazing compliment. Thank you!

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Blakfigures


THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!! been trying to find info on this for years.  Greatly appreciated. The technique and finished product looks great.

Phicen clothes

Phicen clothes
Very interesting experiments you are doing!!! Some of the colors were very beautiful. You are a risky person! )))) I read somewhere that if you put a doll in a colored dress, the paint goes from the dress to the doll. And if the dress is removed, the paint disappears from the doll's body, the next day. These are the properties of silicone. It's self-cleaning.

https://www.instagram.com/phicen_exotic_clothes/

Stryker2011

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Phicen clothes wrote:Very interesting experiments you are doing!!!  Some of the colors were very beautiful.  You are a risky person! ))))  I read somewhere that if you put a doll in a colored dress, the paint goes from the dress to the doll.  And if the dress is removed, the paint disappears from the doll's body, the next day. These are the properties of silicone. It's self-cleaning.

Sometimes the stain disappears. SOMETIMES. Sometimes it doesn’t, and it may require a treatment of Acne cream, and sometimes nothing will remove a stain at all. It’s best to treat all clothes, particularly dark or red clothing, before putting them.


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muesky6969


gooboo wrote:
There's a little bit of speckling on the body, but I actually like it since I think it looks more realistic this way-

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I could have kept dyeing the body more, but I decided to stop here and begin dyeing my s28, which is what I really wanted to do. Unfortunately I got a bit impatient and I think I screwed it up...

For the s28 attempt I decided to add more dye to the pot to speed things up. I went from about 5 bottle caps of dye to around 15 or so, in the hopes that it would dye more quickly. In retrospect I wonder if this caused some of the problems we will see here.

Here's the s28 (a pale body, not a wheat one) next to another unmodified s28-

Things did not go well with this body, and I'm not totally sure why. I think to start with I didn't clean the body enough before hand. I should have scrubbed the body with soap and water more, and also cleaned off excess dye from my own hands/fingers before beginning. This figure ended up with splotchy and streaky parts, completely unlike the s12. Re-using the same water might have been a problem as well. I'm wondering however if the biggest issue is me going from 5 caps to 15 caps of dye. Perhaps the process works better when you darken the figure slowly with many layers, rather than fewer but more potent dips. If someone else has tried this before I'd like to know.


You can see the dye did not go as evenly on this figure as it did with the s12. Here are some close ups of splotchy spots-


You can see there's a fair amount of unevenness above the breasts. There's also some dark spots on the buttocks and elbow, although these are probably my fault since I lost my grip on the doll and it fell onto its back at the bottom of the pot, with the silicone touching the hot metal. Normally I had the figure only touching the pot on its two metal foot pegs, and nowhere else. The inside of the thighs turned out splotchy as well, and I'm not sure why.


Tan lines under the breasts as well, although there's probably nothing that I can do about this. I think if you're going to dye the body a dark brown color, it might be better off to start with a "wheat" body than a pale one, so these little cracks and lines don't appear as obvious.

I decided to stop dyeing the figure once it became clear to me these splotches weren't going away with additional dips in the pot. I really wanted the s28 to work, since dyeing that body was the ultimate goal here. I'm going to order a new s29 instead and see if the wheat-color responds better, and make sure it's very clean before beginning and go more slowly building up many layers instead of adding lots of dye in the beginning. I'll keep and eye on the s28 and see if the splotches even out over time, as I've had stains magically disappear on their own with these bodies.

As far as I can tell the dyeing here is permanent. Neither body lost any color when I scrubbed it down with soap and water, and it didn't seem to bleed or smear onto any fabrics that I used. Rit Dye also says it's permanent on fabrics, so maybe it will be here as well. Obviously I won't be able to tell how things last over a long period of time just yet, but this technique looks very promising. If I can get more figures to dye like the first one rather than the second, there won't be any need to wait for Phicen to come out with a dark skinned figure. I just need to learn how to paint head sculpts to match the body...

Okay, so please forgive me for my ignorance about the 1/6 dolls. I am impatiently awaiting my Henry Cavill and Robot doll, so I have limited knowledge about these dolls but the bodies of 1/6 dolls are TPE right? That I am have extensive experience and understanding about it. As I have done extensive modifications on my adult size dolls..

To get rid of the streaks could you not just oil the doll down? Or use Oxy 10 (that is what we use to get the stains off our full-size dolls). It might take all the color out though so be prepared for the. Then clean off the oil and re-dye the body again? Your procedure does give me an idea for making tan lines on a doll.. Hummmm! That could be interesting. I am hoping this will work as I am wanting to get a female elf doll and dye her red and add horns, wings and a tail.

See this is why I have been avoiding getting 1/6 dolls because I have so many ideas on things I would like to do.. But I got offered a trade I couldn't refuse.. Hence waiting for the Henry doll.. The robot was totally me.. *sigh*

If the bodies are TPE I can show you have to fix any nicks, tears or cuts. As I have a YouTube channel on repairing TPE on my adult size dolls.. It is not hard and will save you all from having to buy more dolls. Well you can buy more dolls but just not to replace the ones that are damaged.. LOL!!!

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Stryker2011

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Please post a link, muesky6969, to your TPE repair video, that would be super helpful.


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GubernatorFan

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I agree, a method to repair the TPE material would be most useful. Please post a link -- perhaps with a NSFW warning if applicable.


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muesky6969


Stryker2011 wrote:Please post a link, muesky6969, to your TPE repair video, that would be super helpful.

Hi Everyone! Now keep in mind my videos are on full sized TPE dolls. Here is the one I made on repairing foot scuffs and tears. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqaFB9pfMyI It would be the same process just at a much smaller scale. You would need to find something like the fake fingernail remover (Dollar Tree $1) or even smaller.. I have some aluminum strips I will cut down and mount on a handle for when the time comes I will need to work on my 1/6 dolls.

There are a number of videos I have made and my channel partner has made.. His focus is on funny care and maintenance, my videos are on repairs and modifying these dolls. If you click on my intro video you will see my Agares and Xiel and how much modifications I have done on them..

If 1/6 bodies are made out of TPE, there is so much that can be done to modify and re-sculpt them.. Even punching in hair.. Yes, I have a video series on that.. Still so many to make.. LOL!!

If you have any questions don't hesitate to contact me here or on the YouTube channel..


Stryker2011

Stryker2011
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Thanks for the link. Interesting video.


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Stryker2011

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Well, I just tried the Rit Dye technique. Just waiting on it to dry, but I've already noticed some "defects" from the heat of the water near her collar bone where the injection-mold ports are located -- it left little dimples. I'm going to let it sit for about a week and a half to see how much it fades. It's in a dark bathroom that's part of my Man-Cave (no windows), so it'll be interesting to see how much it changes in that time. I left it in the water (not boiling) for about 1.5 hours with the occasional pick up to check on it. I wanted it super dark to see if it would fade to a reasonable chocolate color when it faded. We'll see.


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GubernatorFan

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I hope it worked out. How was the smell?


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Stryker2011

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GubernatorFan wrote:I hope it worked out. How was the smell?

I hope it works, too. Right now it’s a rich dark chocolate color. I’m going to wait a couple weeks to see how much it fades before doing anything else with it. I didn’t smell a thing.


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gooboo


The problem with the injection-mold defects after boiling was something I ran into as well. It's not really a problem if you don't leave the body in the water for too long, but if you want to make a dark brown skin tone it's something that can happen.

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Stryker2011

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Well, I ran into issues checking today (the 3rd day since the hot Rit Dye bath). I had the figure hanging in this pose -- the same pose she was in when she went into the pot, and I noticed tearing of the TPE under her arms and... uhm... in her... ahh... crotch. (I'm not too stressed about the ones between her legs, but I'll probably still try to glue them shut so they don't spread even more -- as I have no intention of posing her nude). The tears in the arm pits, and the underside of her arms is distressing to say the least.

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gooboo


I ran into some similar tearing with the groin on some of the figures I repeatedly dyed, but I've never seen anything like what you have going on with the arms and armpits.

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Stryker2011

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I wonder if I used TPE glue if the joints would be flexible enough to still be used, or if they would just re-tear…


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GubernatorFan

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Nooooo... well, the color looks great, but getting rips in your TPE flesh is not worth it. I'm definitely sticking to oil pastel! Is TPE glue different from silicon glue? Hope it works.


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Stryker2011

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Here's the body I dyed covered with powder. It's dulled the color a bit, even though I tried to spread it as thin as possible, but interestingly, even after all this time, the dye never faded anywhere near as bad as I've seen in previous attempts (maybe it's due to being down in the Bat Cave -- I mean, my Man Cave???). I will have to paint hands and feet -- what really is amazing is I bought the sandals from the Spartan Army Commander, and holy-hell the feet on those figures are insanely huge. I compared the feet from the SAC -- which I haven't put together yet -- against male figure feet, and they are actually the same size. So, I stole a pair of feet from a male figure to paint up. I feel bad, because now Naomie is going to look ridiculous with these giant boat-feet. Outfit is still being worked on, and is obviously not complete, but with the pieces that I chose, and the glue that I had used on the tears that I showed above, none of them will be visible. The light in the photos is a bit too stark -- sorry -- which is why I took one next to my wife's mini-me (Pale TBL).

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GubernatorFan

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You know what they say about big feet, right? Oh wait... Smile I meant greater stability! Smile Excellent recoloring and outfitting, such a contrast to the skin tone on your wife's mini-she (kickass figure). Protective powder can dull colors indeed, so that may be something you consider when matching the color of the head. Or maybe the body is just more dusty and she washed her face... Smile


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I don't know if those tearings really are due to the dipping process, because I got 2 S23B bodies with those exact same tearings in the exact same places from boxed figures: Skarah and Fighter Woman. I didn't do any modification to the bodies, didn't even stress them in extreme poses. They just came with the tearing. This could be due to some faulty batch of bodies.

Stryker2011

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The tears weren’t there before the dying process; the heat, and no doubt the 1- 1.5 hour dunking time, definitely caused it.


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mypint


Hey ALL!! Cherry kit bash. I have had the ugliest of times to get the colors to go on my Phicen seamless silicone figures. FIRST: These are not silicone but a TPE....Thermoplastic Elastomer. Phicen didn't respond when I tried to contact them. Spray paint...wrong answer. Ended up with tiny holes at neck and armpits. FAIL. I had to wash off the paint.
Since it was said to be silicone, I contacted Smooth-On on the best way to paint/color the figure. It would not cure. Washed it all off. Told the rep that. He asked what I was using the mixes on. I told him Phicen. That's when I learned what they were. Fail. Researched again and found Plaid FX flexible Acrylic Paint. Which was said to work on TPE. I move the arms after 3 days of curing and the paint rippled then split. Peeled that paint off like dead skin. 3rd FAIL. THEN....I found you all and now going to try the pastels on my next figure. I have the Lady Death head sculpt and trying to make the body white like the head. Doing a Silver Banshee figure from Superman. So, more to follow on that.

Now, I will say that my male M36 Phicen that I was making a Parasite figure from Superman. I used the synthetic dye. He soaked in that concoction for a week and he turned out to be a good purple. Next was the head sculpt. For the love of God, head paint could not make the color of the body but it still worked.

My kit LOBO on the M36 Phicen, nothing worked. I ended up buying a large plastic Lobo body. He definitely wasn't the pure white color from the comics. It was this light grey. Finally got him to be white. Why don't they make a white synthetic dye? Yes, understand that they have white shirts or use bleach for dark clothes. OH well.

I want to send a huge bear Hug to Ephaine. She found the solution. THANK YOU!!

skywalkersaga

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Hey there, mypint! Welcome to the forum! It sounds like you've been on a journey that is sadly quite familiar to many of us. I'm so glad you found the forum and I'd love to eventually see your own results once you are satisfied with them.

And yes, agree with you on Ephiane, I'm so thankful she shared her technique here or else I'd never have been able to progress with many of my own projects.


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