Clothing TBLeague / Phicen Seamless Bodies updated: Part XXX, December 2022

Stryker2011 wrote:Not bad. And a very funny and interesting way to display them. Look like some good grabs.

skywalkersaga wrote:LOL, cute figures and pics. And I do love Hegemony77's clothing! Just wish they made a bit wider range of styles (especially more for female figures). But their quality is top notch.

Thank you both, I'm glad you liked them! They are pretty great, even if the ones I went for were fairly generic (although the sweatpants do depict those of a certain company that are super-popular in Europe and especially Eastern Europe, to Ovy's delight). I wasn't looking for a specific kitbash, but they've got those too -- Arnie with the branded Gym t-shirt outfit, Freddie Mercury at Live Aid, Superman, etc. I do wish they had a wider range of styles and also more female clothing, but I suppose some of this will come down the line. Their quality is top notch indeed. One could have hoped for lower prices, but this is essentially a one-woman outfit after all, and nothing here is exactly mass-produced. They actually have some discounts going on right now. Picked up a couple more items (actually it was meant to be more than that but scaled back when I saw the price).

Part XXI: Various and Sundry Summery Things

It is far from the worst winter out here, but I felt I wanted summer at the time I shot these, so here we go. Actually, I had ordered and received (surprisingly fast) a few more Hegemony77 items, but only one appears below. It was a pair of green shorts advertised to fit the bulkier M34-M35 bodies, and you see it displayed on an M34; it would easily fit an M35, too, but smaller bodies would likely swim in them. I had also ordered a top to go with them from Hegemony77, but for once it was not stretchy enough to put on the M34. In the later photos he got a Magic Cube (SuperMCToys) wife beater (yes, I know it almost clashes, but try telling him that). Then there was a yellow and black dress for Barbie Curvy Fashionista figures, which fit quite well on an S29B, paired with Barbie (actually Ken's) flip-flops and a purse from one of the Harvey Potter sets. Finally, I had found discounted a ZY Toys set consisting of a tropical shirt, tan shorts, and brown sandals, which worked surprisingly well with an M33.

















It's a miracle... Max has recovered! (I told you not to make fun of him for the clashing top.) But see those unnecessary crutches? I think they will come handy -- especially for those floppy-footed seamless-ankled female bodies.

What do you think?

I think in the last pic you prevent us from seing your jesus figure just outside the pic. I wonder what body you gave him

Anyway, they look good in all their clothes and the idea to use crutches for the seamless ankled phicen is genius haha

Thanks again for this useful thread

Ha, I love these! Jason Momoa looks great in his tropical shirt, and those shorts are nice too. I've had the thought of using the curvy barbie clothing for some tbleague's before, so it's great to see they do indeed work. And like Valiarde, I agree the crutches are absolutely brilliant idea.

Valiarde wrote:I think in the last pic you prevent us from seing your jesus figure just outside the pic. I wonder what body you gave him Anyway, they look good in all their clothes and the idea to use crutches for the seamless ankled phicen is genius haha. Thanks again for this useful thread

Thank you very much, and glad you agree. Yes indeed, Jesus was off to the right. Or maybe it was Santa Claus! What body? Hmm... if he's all bundled up, an M31 might be ok, but I would never insult the Son of God by giving him that. So I guess M33... But who can play the part? I don't have Ovy's long-haired Keanu, and I don't have a Jim Caviezel head... so Jason Momoa again?

skywalkersaga wrote:Ha, I love these! Jason Momoa looks great in his tropical shirt, and those shorts are nice too. I've had the thought of using the curvy barbie clothing for some tbleague's before, so it's great to see they do indeed work. And like Valiarde, I agree the crutches are absolutely brilliant idea.

Very glad you liked them. I was surprised that the ZY shirt and shorts fit, and are fully functional, even to the point of getting him to sit. The great thing about those curvy Barbie Fashionista sets is that they (judging by this one, anyway) are a little stretchy, which makes them not only fit, but also fit better, and also they don't stain (or haven't so far). Some, like this one, also look reasonably realistic. I haven't focused on female clothing in this thread, as that is already covered amply by others, who beat me to the punch. But also because I don't dare experiment with some of the more striking outfits available out there (with their dark reds, blues, and blacks) for fear of staining -- and then the range of choices is also curtailed by the large proportion of overly-sexualized or plain weird items among them. But this may be a way around that. I've been meaning to show some of those floppy-footed seamless-ankled bodies using the crutches for awhile, but need to dig them out -- they hardly see any use so I don't keep them handy.

I like the cargo shorts and her purse — but I think you know how I feel about men and flip flops...

Stryker2011 wrote:I like the cargo shorts and her purse — but I think you know how I feel about men and flip flops...

LOL I remember your phobia. I promise I was going for summery casual realism, not giving you nightmares!

Nice one, the buffed guy in crutches looks like he will get into his next sports accident in no time.  The crutches reminded me of A Cure for Wellness I watched the other day. Maybe you could also give them to your most hated tbleague body.

Jasons Leather sandals look very great and realistic, beats any plastic elastic sandals by far.

Ovy wrote:Nice one, the buffed guy in crutches looks like he will get into his next sports accident in no time.  The crutches reminded me of A Cure for Wellness I watched the other day. Maybe you could also give them to your most hated tbleague body. Jasons Leather sandals look very great and realistic, beats any plastic elastic sandals by far.

LOL... with those horrible wrist joints, my most hated TBLeague body will have little use of these crutches, unless it has very well-coordinated armpits. Jason's sandals look pretty good and are actually leather or pleather, not sure exactly. Unless modified, they are too tight for the TBLeague foot (as can be expected), but I managed to cram it in there. Within a few hours both of the upper straps (which are fake, in the sense that you can't loosen them, the buckle is glued on top) had snapped, and I had to re-glue them together, taking the opportunity to make them just a little wider. So far so good.

Part XXII: Various hoodie and overalls sets

Looks like there is a bit of a pattern to my more recent sixth-scale clothing purchases. Whether parted out or as sets, I have ended up acquiring a couple each of hoodie and overall ensembles, for modern civilian non-glamorous figures. With the hoodies I outfitted an M33 and an M34, especially as the hoodie and pants I got from eBay seller simplehappylife were advertised as "oversize," and able to fit "Phicen M33, M34, M35, M36, World Box AT027 and fat AT018." They certainly fulfilled their promise. The other came as an actual set ("Sweater Jeans Sneakers Set A") from eBay seller acec_union, and it is listed as their brand. This set includes a hoodie ("sweatshirt"), jeans, belt, shoes, and (unlisted in the product information and not depicted in the photos) a beanie. So I played around with a few options, and outfitted an M33 with a First Rate Matt Damon head sculpt that looks much more like Kellan Lutz to me (and I consider it to be him), and with the black beanie, hoodie, belt, and jeans from the acec_union set, and some black sport shoes I already had from ages ago. Although I wasn't trying particularly hard, the outfit turned out appropriate for Kellan, right down to the shirtless-yet-wearing-a-beanie look, which was actually intended to show the detail of the jeans and belt.  



The jeans have pretty fine and realistic stitching, functional pockets and belt loops; there is no leather brand label (I don't know if all jeans have one, but usually expect to see one). The belt has a functional belt buckle, and works well, despite being almost too wide for the belt loops. I was impressed that the fairly skinny jeans ended up fitting and, although pretty tight, allow good articulation.



The beanie works reasonably well, although the sculpted/molded hair beneath it would act in a way real hair would not, and the fabric has the tendency to bunch up a little at the top of the head. The hoodie works very well, and is made of a soft and stretchy material that helps it go on, look natural, and keep articulation unimpeded. The shoes have non-TBLeague feet that still fit on the TBLeague ankle pegs, and I made the fit tighter with a couple of short lengths of elastic cord.



I outfitted the M34 with a Hot Toys Bruce Banner (Mark Ruffalo) head sculpt, and gave him the "oversize" hoodie and exercise pants from simplehappylife, socks from the Magic Cube Miles set, and a pair of Nike slides to make sure it was realistically casually unfashionable.



Everything fit reasonably easily and works comfortably, without restricting the articulation at all.



Lounging on the sofa enjoying some video gaming is therefore possible; it occurs to me that much of the seating for sixth-scale action figures tends to be a little low, resulting in somewhat odd posture.



Cuke Toys just released a couple of overalls sets consisting of overalls and a top; I picked up the blue overalls but not the top, and put it on an M33 (I forget where the bearded head sculpt came from). World Box just released its Motor Mechanic set (WB-AT031), depicting a Russian mechanic ("Volk," meaning "Wolf") who is also part of a motorcycle club ("Forever Wheels"), consisting of a head sculpt, tattooed World Box body, overalls, tank top, molded moc toe shoes, a tool canvas beg (a sort of a cross between a tool belt and a fanny pack), a selection of four tools, a sleeveless vest with the motorcycle club logo, and a tire. I gave the World Box sleeveless vest and moc toe shoes to the M33 with the bearded head sculpt; the shoes (which appear to be the same as those used in the MCC "Old Soldier" set) fit pretty well even without resorting to any customization; the curved hard plastic soles, however, do not help stability, and the height of the shoes' sides practically eliminates ankle articulation. I gave another M33 the "Black" Jack Osborne Easy & Simple head sculpt, and the remaining items I had gotten from the parted-out World Box set: the World Box overalls, tank top, and tool canvas bag; he also got the shoes from the acec_union set mentioned above. Lo and behold, with a little heating, some shoelace loosening, and a bit of effort, the TBLeague feet fit inside!



The overalls similar but different, Cuke Toys utilizing more and larger and shinier buttons, more distinctive stitching, providing a button fastening to allow the garment to tighten or loosen under the arm pit, and making it possible to adjust the lengths of the straps over the shoulders. These are realistically functional, as are the non-adjustable denim straps on the World Box overalls. Most of the World Box overalls pockets are functional; all of the Cuke Toys pockets are functional. On the whole, Cuke Toys made the more functional and refined garment, but World Box's still seems more typical to me.



As noted above, the World Box sleeveless vest has a large and detailed logo of the motorcycle club on its back, consisting of a skull image and "Forever Wheels". The World Box white tank top is distressed or outright soiled -- on purpose.



The World Box sleeveless vest zips open or closed with a functional zipper. I gave the figures a few tools I had from before (although my actual toolbox and better tools are currently misplaced).



All in all, the various sets and pieces covered in the review appear to be well made and work and look well, and to allow customizing (or at least mixing and matching, as I have done).







What do you think?

The overall sets look pretty good.

Stryker2011 wrote:The overall sets look pretty good.

I'm glad you liked them too. I couldn't resist, even if I have relatively little use for them (but one never knows).

Just keep in mind that I mixed and matched, both among them and with the hoodie sets, which provided one of the pairs of shoes I used with the World Box overalls, while the World Box shoes (which are the same as those used for the MCC "Old Soldier" set) went to the figure clothed in the Cuke Toys overalls. The World Box/MCC moc toe shoes look pretty great, and it's nice that they can fit the TBLeague ankle peg without any special provisions, but they do limit articulation at the ankle and are not great for stability, given their hard plastic curved soles.

Personally, I don't particularly like hoodies (or beanies or slides) either, but I think those work pretty well too.

GubernatorFan wrote:Part XXII: Various hoodie and overalls sets







What do you think?

What happens next?

ukshaun wrote:What happens next?

I would never consider that you might think up anything inappropriate! But it is left ambiguous on purpose.

GubernatorFan wrote:

ukshaun wrote:What happens next?

I would never consider that you might think up anything inappropriate! But it is left ambiguous on purpose.

Haha.. it appeared to be one step away from X rated.

ukshaun wrote:Haha.. it appeared to be one step away from X rated.

I stand corrected, then, about your purity of mind.

ukshaun wrote:

GubernatorFan wrote:

ukshaun wrote:What happens next?

I would never consider that you might think up anything inappropriate! But it is left ambiguous on purpose.

Haha.. it appeared to be one step away from X rated.

Or possibly a horror show — the guy behind her with the hammer is worrisome!

Stryker2011 wrote:Or possibly a horror show — the guy behind her with the hammer is worrisome!

See, there is a perfectly clean (if violent and messy) explanation!

Violence and gore is ok, but no sex please that is too dirty haha (ok in this case it would be a serious crime, was just speaking in general)

Thanks for the informative pics. Good thread

Checking out the final image some more, i think i might know what happens next.
She is knows the guy behind her is armed with a hammer, as she can see his reflection in the chrome. She knows the guy on the right is boozing. She has er phone to hand and has texted a friend for help. My guess is, the cops are about to bust into the scene.

... or both guys called the girl (who happens to also be a mechanic in the same shop) on her day off for some help and advices, cuz they're not figuring out what the problem is. Poor girl was dressed and ready to go out on a date but decided to help her work fellas before actually going out, cuz she owed them one.

Although that would still not explain the hammer on the dude's hand... unless he was just fiddling with it, to kiil some time.

Valiarde wrote:Violence and gore is ok, but no sex please that is too dirty haha (ok in this case it would be a serious crime, was just speaking in general)

Thanks for the informative pics. Good thread

You are very welcome, and I'm glad you like it. And I've noticed the same somewhat questionable stance permeating our popular culture for decades.

ukshaun wrote:Checking out the final image some more, i think i might know what happens next.
She is knows the guy behind her is armed with a hammer, as she can see his reflection in the chrome. She knows the guy on the right is boozing. She has er phone to hand and has texted a friend for help. My guess is, the cops are about to bust into the scene.

Creative interpretation. That is not one of the ways this was going to develop I had imagined, but that's the beauty of art (insofar as this is art) -- it's in the eyes of the beholder. Or so I've been told.

FreakinLobster wrote:... or both guys called the girl (who happens to also be a mechanic in the same shop) on her day off for some help and advices, cuz they're not figuring out what the problem is. Poor girl was dressed and ready to go out on a date but decided to help her work fellas before actually going out, cuz she owed them one.

Although that would still not explain the hammer on the dude's hand... unless he was just fiddling with it, to kill some time.

Another creative interpretation; that one is a bit closer to one thing that crossed my mind (that she is their demanding and annoying boss dropping in to chew them out for being lazy layabouts while there is work to be done...)

I like that you guys are stepping in and providing different interpretations... maybe I should do more of these. Did anyone catch the minor twist at the end of the Part XX (Post 144 above)? (That was admittedly a less-developed scene.)

Part XXIII: clothing the Tall One and KUMIK shoes

Someone asked me specifically about clothing the basketball-player-type M36 bodies, which we have always expected to be trouble. And it is. Finding things that will both fit and look suitably long is going to be a challenge, although if you have specifically basketball-related items (including the tank top and shorts), perhaps that would not be much of an issue. But here are a couple of casual options.

You can see the marked difference in stature between M36 and M33, yet sixth-scale clothing is rarely specific as to different heights. M36 wears a hoodie from one of those hoodie + jeans + sneakers (+ belts + beanie hat) sets sold by eBay seller acec_union showcased in Part XXII (Post 156) above, Addidas exercise pants from Hegemony77 from Part XX (Post 144) above, and KUMIK sport shoes. M33 wears a grey tank top and plain grey exercise pants, both from Hegemony 77, and KUMIK sport shoes. Note the the KUMIK shoes. They are made of relatively thin rubbery material, and can accommodate the larger feet of TBLeague male action figures, unlike much of the other sixth-scale footwear out there. The Hegemony77 exercise pants are the same in length (18 cm from waist line to bottom of pant leg) and material, and they are just a little short for M36 and just a little long for M33, but passable for both. If you are giving M36 long pants and they do not tuck into tall boots, you don't want anything shorter than 18 cm. The grey tank top on M33 would easily fit on M36.



They can sit without much trouble, M36 more awkwardly, because of the long legs and relatively short chair.



These blue jeans might have come together with the checkered shirt as part of a set (I am not certain -- the jeans are almost basic enough to be Triad Toys, from what I remember, but if so, they did not come with this shirt), and both fit reasonably well on M36, although both could have been a tad longer. In this instance, M36 is wearing the XRF boots from Part I (Post 1) above. The shirt closes with three concealed push buttons.



Shirt's off so you can see the jeans more clearly. The green tank top is from the Street Bruiser American Soldier (Guile) set in Part V (Post 30) above, but similar tank tops can be seen from XRF in Part I (Post 1) and Magic Cube in Part III (Post 14) above.



The jeans are 19.5 cm long (from the waist line to the bottom of the pant leg), and that seems about as good as you can get for this body.



Here the XRF boots are replaced again with KUMIK shoes and the darker jeans have been replaced with light blue jeans from MAK (specifically advertised to fit TBLeague figures), the same ones from Part II (Post 9) above. They were a little long on M33, but work well with M36 -- and no wonder, they are also 19.5 cm long.



Again, M36 can sit easily and naturally enough in these pants (the same goes for the previous jeans model).



Most sixth-scale jeans (e.g., PIPI Toys, Toy Center, Sideshow) I had handy to measure were about 17.5 cm, which would look much too short on M36. Unfortunately I can't find the XRF jeans from Part XIV (Post 92) above right now, but by the way they look on M33, they are probably about the same length as the exercise pants in the first couple of photos in this post, i.e., about 18 cm. That may or may not look too short. Ideally, even the 19.5-cm jeans shown here could benefit by being a bit longer, but make do.



What do you think?

Yep, the 36 body is a too tall to be practical for clothes that aren’t custom made to fit. Thanks for all the hard work and comparison pics, Ian. I haven’t purchased one of these BB bodies, and I don’t really have a need for one, but it’s nice to see the options.

Stryker2011 wrote:Yep, the 36 body is a too tall to be practical for clothes that aren’t custom made to fit. Thanks for all the hard work and comparison pics, Ian. I haven’t purchased one of these BB bodies, and I don’t really have a need for one, but it’s nice to see the options.

Thank you, Mark, glad you found it useful. It is nice TBLeague made a tall body, but I agree that this is probably too tall and too body-type-specific to be of much general use. And they knew it too, as demonstrated by their unusual selection of hand sculpts (no relaxed hands, only one fist, the rest are basketball specific and one pointing). Of course one could borrow the regular hand sculpts from other bodies, but I was illustrating a point. Ephiane put one of these to good purpose with one of her characters, also going a casual route, but far more striking than my demonstration. Hegemony77 does make some items specific for this body, though of course they tend to be sporty.

Thank you so much for taking the time to try all those on the taller body. At least it seems a couple of the tank tops would work on it, even if the jeans are a bit iffy. The longest ones would work as a stand-in until one could come up with something custom made.

And it is indeed really frustrating about that body being so specific to a basketball player. I get why they did that (there is obviously enough demand for it), but for those of us who want to make pretty much anything *but* that, lol, it's limiting. ;p I have a figure I want to make someday who is supposed to be pushing 6'7", but he's definitely more muscular as opposed to just lanky. There's always the WorldBox AT027, but it would be ideal to have a seamless option equivalent.

Wait, PIPI toys is a thing? xD

Nice one, first time I have seen this one in (non apocalyptic) casual clothing. I like the pic where they are sitting a lot, the difference in size really gives that scene character.

I have the dark M36, no out of the box options of grip hands for him. Fortunately the character lives outside the casual jeans and shirt world.

And remember, save the chubby unicorns.

skywalkersaga wrote:Thank you so much for taking the time to try all those on the taller body. At least it seems a couple of the tank tops would work on it, even if the jeans are a bit iffy. The longest ones would work as a stand-in until one could come up with something custom made.

And it is indeed really frustrating about that body being so specific to a basketball player. I get why they did that (there is obviously enough demand for it), but for those of us who want to make pretty much anything *but* that, lol, it's limiting. ;p I have a figure I want to make someday who is supposed to be pushing 6'7", but he's definitely more muscular as opposed to just lanky. There's always the WorldBox AT027, but it would be ideal to have a seamless option equivalent.

You are very welcome. Glad you agree. AT027 is not nearly as tall. If your character is fully dressed up, you could make him beefier with clothes or stuffing under them.

Ovy wrote:Wait, PIPI toys is a thing? xD Nice one, first time I have seen this one in (non apocalyptic) casual clothing. I like the pic where they are sitting a lot, the difference in size really gives that scene character. I have the dark M36, no out of the box options of grip hands for him. Fortunately the character lives outside the casual jeans and shirt world. And remember, save the chubby unicorns.

LOL Yes, it is, go back and look them up. It feels repetitive, but I guess it is informative to show them sitting, demonstrating that it is possible with those clothes on. Rhinos? Where?

Always so interesting to see how these outfits actually fit on these different bodies. You do good work sharing these with the rest of us!