Clothing TBLeague / Phicen Seamless Bodies updated: Part XXX, December 2022

The jacket and shirt look good, the pants look a little big on him. Great set up for your show case.

Stryker2011 wrote:The jacket and shirt look good, the pants look a little big on him. Great set up for your show case.

I thought so too. But again, like we've both noted before, such covering outfits could just as well be served by a more traditional hard plastic body. Which makes me wonder -- why did they make the pants so wide; it probably helped with getting them on the TBLeague bodies, but they were not meant for them.

Another great find of the shirt for seamless wide shoulder!!! The only thing I don't happy with is the pants...it looks 80's and nice with dance guys but not this "doctor" or something similar professional man like him....and the books are made from paper or plastic?

lawlaw91 wrote:Another great find of the shirt for seamless wide shoulder!!! The only thing I don't happy with is the pants...it looks 80's and nice with dance guys but not this "doctor" or something similar professional man like him....and the books are made from paper or plastic?

The character depicted in the set is an older British gentleman (though I don't know what he plays or exactly what time period the show is set in), so perhaps he was a little behind on what we consider fashionable. I don't really know.
Some of the books are with real paper pages (the ones lying horizontally on the desk), but the standing set is a single piece of plastic (or was it wood?).

Are there any M34 light blue shirts and solid blue hoodies.

I'm making a Will Smith Hancock version 1 figure where he fought his ex wife

Part XIV: XRF sets XM05A and XM05B

XRF just released their plaid long-sleeved shirt and blue jeans sets XM05A (red) and XM05B (blue). The clothing sets are simple, consisting of only 3 items each: a plaid long-sleeved shirt, bue jeans, and a leather-like belt. The jeans and belt are identical in the two versions of the set, only the shirts differ in base color. I tried out the sets on TBLeague's M33 (slimmer) and M34 (bulkier). Especially on M34, they were a tight fit, but as you can see work quite well, allowing for plenty of articulation. The jeans work well with boots, as shown in the last photo (using the recent ADD Toys muscle body from HERE). The detail is pretty good, and all the pockets are useful. The pants close with velcro, the shirt with buttons (I left those at the neck and left cuff unbuttoned).









I hope this is useful. What do you think?

I don't care for the shirts, but those jeans and belt look great!! On all three bodies, too!
That ADD body just looks amazing. And hands in pocket! Awesome!

I'm not 100% liking the way the jeans fold in the top front on the M33 and AD02. So I'm thinking the M34 is the winner here. Even though I really like the baggy look on the AD02...

Great buy!

Dang that AD02 body looks so good like that that!

I might have to get the red plaid version — that entire outfit is pretty much my go-to winter clothing, though I tend to tuck my shirts in. Thanks for the review.

AerynDiana wrote:I don't care for the shirts, but those jeans and belt look great!! On all three bodies, too!
That ADD body just looks amazing. And hands in pocket! Awesome!

I'm not 100% liking the way the jeans fold in the top front on the M33 and AD02. So I'm thinking the M34 is the winner here. Even though I really like the baggy look on the AD02...

Great buy!

Thank you. The shirts do look a little bulky, although this type of shirts sometimes are bulky indeed. The ADD body does look amazing, but the problem is that this (the look) is its only advantage -- working with it I was reminded of what a pain it is to pose it and especially get it to stand -- and these are not even action poses. The trick to hands in pockets (in case you don't know or don't realize what I've done in this instance) is to remove the actual hands, and just tuck in the pegs. I was just trying to illustrate that the pockets are functional. Some outfits do have pockets large enough for the actual hands to fit in, although that usually involves stretchier fabrics and what look like oversized pockets. The jeans fold is largely my problem. I want and expect my figures to be articulated enough to sit (the ADD body is already pretty limited there), so I purposefully pulled the pants up far enough to have a bit of a fold of material at the thigh and at the knees. I may not have pulled the pant legs down to smoothen them enough for the just standing photos. The point is, that fold need not be there, depending on how you put the jeans on your figure.

skywalkersaga wrote:Dang that AD02 body looks so good like that that!

Yes, it does, doesn't it? Again, I wish it performed as well as it looked. Or that TBLeague (without changing anything else) applies the same paint job to its bodies.

Stryker2011 wrote:I might have to get the red plaid version — that entire outfit is pretty much my go-to winter clothing, though I tend to tuck my shirts in. Thanks for the review.

Thanks and welcome. Awesome, now I know how to create a winter version of mini-you (besides Darth Stryker and Markos the Greek hoplite prototypes)! If you use one of the thinner bodies (M32, M33), you might be able to tuck the shirt in. The sleeves were a pain even on the M33, by the way, though the pants went on it a lot easier than on the M34.

Haha. That would be funny. Thanks for the extra info.

GubernatorFan wrote:

AerynDiana wrote:I don't care for the shirts, but those jeans and belt look great!! On all three bodies, too!
That ADD body just looks amazing. And hands in pocket! Awesome!

I'm not 100% liking the way the jeans fold in the top front on the M33 and AD02. So I'm thinking the M34 is the winner here. Even though I really like the baggy look on the AD02...

Great buy!

Thank you. The shirts do look a little bulky, although this type of shirts sometimes are bulky indeed. The ADD body does look amazing, but the problem is that this (the look) is its only advantage -- working with it I was reminded of what a pain it is to pose it and especially get it to stand -- and these are not even action poses. The trick to hands in pockets (in case you don't know or don't realize what I've done in this instance) is to remove the actual hands, and just tuck in the pegs. I was just trying to illustrate that the pockets are functional. Some outfits do have pockets large enough for the actual hands to fit in, although that usually involves stretchier fabrics and what look like oversized pockets. The jeans fold is largely my problem. I want and expect my figures to be articulated enough to sit (the ADD body is already pretty limited there), so I purposefully pulled the pants up far enough to have a bit of a fold of material at the thigh and at the knees. I may not have pulled the pant legs down to smoothen them enough for the just standing photos. The point is, that fold need not be there, depending on how you put the jeans on your figure.

Ah! Had not figured that out, but makes perfect sense. Thanks!
And good to know about the pants' fold. That makes them an even better buy.

Stryker2011 wrote:Haha. That would be funny. Thanks for the extra info.

AerynDiana wrote:Ah! Had not figured that out, but makes perfect sense. Thanks!
And good to know about the pants' fold. That makes them an even better buy.

Happy to help!

Part XV: Easy & Simple jeans and shoes with ADD Toys wife beater

It seems like I've been picking up denim and denim-related items for a while now, so here is another, and it ended up even more Country than some of the earlier ones. The worn/faded jeans and Speedcross shoes come from the Easy & Simple Special Mission Unit Tear 1 Operator (so does the head, but it has been de-necked); the wife beater is from ADD Toys' War Wolves (the clothed version) -- I think (or otherwise a different Logan set?); the jewelry is from DAM Gangster Kingdom Van Ness set. The shoes and clothes fit quite well on TBLeague's M33 body, although getting them on (the clothes, not the shoes, which were easy) can be a bit of a struggle. I was actually surprised that the Easy & Simple jeans not only fit, but they can zip/button (actually it is velcro, which does not have a particularly strong hold), and allow enough articulation to make the figure sit down. The jeans pockets are functional, as are the belt loops, but as you can see, there is no leather brand patch, unlike some other sixth-scale jeans we have been getting. They are pretty tight, and difficult to fit over boots. The stitching and cut look pretty good to me. And yes, the wife beater is distressed (or more bluntly, sweat-stained). All in all, I think a pretty decent set of options.









What do you think?

PS Sky, you're welcome!

Okay now, I gotta say: That's sexy. The jeans fit perfectly! And I didn't realize the M33 is that buff! Looks less so in the product shots with that James Franco head sculpt. (Nevermind. I erred.)

I would really like to see a TBL body that would be suitable for a trained but not so buff male. Or female for that matter. They should look at tennis players for reference, who imho have some of the most balanced physiques.

Oh my Force, redneck hillbilly Obi-Wan.... I'm

He looks great though, as does the outfit! Seems like a pretty perfect fit. :'D

Thanks for that, GF.


ETA: I'm also dreaming of a male tbleague body like what you describe, Diana. Or at least, something slightly taller and a little more lanky yet still muscled when compared to the m33. Right now for slimmer muscled bodies you only really have the m32 and m36, and those are very nice but still quite specific body types themselves.

Looks good, Guv. Nice options.

"Imma blast every f**kin tusky or stormie treading mah lawn, as tha Lord will be with me, always. No savage or government buckethead will take dat farm. Ain't dat right, Rex?" *Mr. McKennoby pats the dog*

Really great and fresh combination. I think he would look cool with gloves.

AerynDiana wrote:Okay now, I gotta say: That's sexy. The jeans fit perfectly! And I didn't realize the M33 is that buff! Looks less so in the product shots with that James Franco head sculpt. (Nevermind. I erred.)
I would really like to see a TBL body that would be suitable for a trained but not so buff male. Or female for that matter. They should look at tennis players for reference, who imho have some of the most balanced physiques.

Thanks, glad you liked it. If they made the jeans from something a bit stretchier, they would fit even better, and impede even less. But like I wrote above, I was actually surprised they worked this well. If you do get them, keep in mind the velcro is rather weak.

I agree completely on the desirability of TBLeague making more lean fit bodies -- male and female alike. M33 is one of their best bodies (fit but not too bulky), unfortunately marred by the decision to make it a little shorter and provide optional ankle extenders. They defeat the point of a (relatively) seamless body and are very difficult to get on and (worse) off. I refuse to use them. As a result, the body looks just a little short-legged (and by extension long-armed). I would love for them to revisit it and get it right, without the damn extenders. And if they added the sort of paint application (but everywhere) that ADD Toys did on much of their "muscle" War Wolves figure (without changing anything else except maybe providing additional bent-toe feet), they might reach something like perfection.

skywalkersaga wrote:Oh my Force, redneck hillbilly Obi-Wan.... I'm
He looks great though, as does the outfit! Seems like a pretty perfect fit. :'D
Thanks for that, GF.

Hmmm, you just gave me a name for the character... I was thinking Redneck Ben, but maybe this is actually his cousin Hilly Billy Kenobi.
Glad you liked it, agree, and welcome. The features are not as finely sculpted as Hot Toys' most recent Ewan McGregor Ben sculpt, but still pretty good and recognizable.

Stryker2011 wrote:Looks good, Guv. Nice options.

Thanks, I'm glad you agree.

Ovy wrote:"Imma blast every f**kin tusky or stormie treading mah lawn, as tha Lord will be with me, always. No savage or government buckethead will take dat farm. Ain't dat right, Rex?" *Mr. McKennoby pats the dog*
Really great and fresh combination. I think he would look cool with gloves.

Thanks, very funny. Don't you mean "tha Force"? Gloves... might make good sense, but also might look overly accessorized -- with all the bling there already.

GubernatorFan wrote:I agree completely on the desirability of TBLeague making more lean fit bodies -- male and female alike. M33 is one of their best bodies (fit but not too bulky), unfortunately marred by the decision to make it a little shorter and provide optional ankle extenders. They defeat the point of a (relatively) seamless body and are very difficult to get on and (worse) off. I refuse to use them. As a result, the body looks just a little short-legged (and by extension long-armed). I would love for them to revisit it and get it right, without the damn extenders. And if they added the sort of paint application (but everywhere) that ADD Toys did on much of their "muscle" War Wolves figure (without changing anything else except maybe providing additional bent-toe feet), they might reach something like perfection.

Exactly. Well said. And good to know about the extenders. I wasn't aware of that issue. Bummer.

The ‘long-armed’ effect is due to both the shortness of the body itself ( as GF noted), and also (imo) the fact that the torso is also just a little too short/compact in comparison to said arms. I feel like a longer torso (+ longer legs w/ no ankle extenders) would help a lot. Also, needs slightly less chunky wrists/forearms (but that is a recurring problem with lots of tbleague bodies). Really hope to see them revisit an m33-esque body with those kinds of improvements.

AerynDiana wrote:Exactly. Well said. And good to know about the extenders. I wasn't aware of that issue. Bummer.

Thank you. If you are ready to dedicate your figure to a permanent long-pants or tall-boots look, the extenders won't show and would be fine -- but God help you if you need and try to remove them.

Here is a link to my detailed review of M33 from a while back:
http://www.mwctoys.com/REVIEW-120916b.htm

I probably posted some additional photos on the old site:
https://www.onesixthwarriors.com/forum/sixth-scale-action-figure-news-reviews-and-discussion-/853909-phicen-male-seamless-action-figure-body-review-m33.html

skywalkersaga wrote:The ‘long-armed’ effect is due to both the shortness of the body itself ( as GF noted), and also (imo) the fact that the torso is also just a little too short/compact in comparison to said arms. I feel like a longer torso (+ longer legs w/ no ankle extenders) would help a lot. Also, needs slightly less chunky wrists/forearms (but that is a recurring problem with lots of tbleague bodies).  Really hope to see them revisit an m33-esque body with those kinds of improvements.

Maybe the arms are a bit long in and of themselves. And as we have discussed before, a different, poseable underlying skeleton solution for the lower arms that allows correct alignment between it and the hands would help with any of these seamless bodies.

Part XVI: more jeans and other casual wear



Yes, that is why this thread exists: sometimes even a relatively "average" seamless body (and not just the male ones) can have problems fitting into various garments designed for the more conventional hard-plastic bodies. The Threezero Carl Grimes plaid shirt looked excellent, but even in its own set it wasn't meant to actually button; perhaps that should have been a clue. As it were, I could get it far enough to where M33 looked as if it was in the process of taking it off, but not far enough to make it look like it actually fit... but anyway...



The Art Figures jeans, belt, and boots (not to mention the head) from the Atlas set work very well with the M33 body. The pockets are functional, and the jeans allow sitting naturally.



That said, pretty much everything covered in this installment was a tight fit and required a modicum of patience and effort. To get the Art Figures shoes to fit I used CooModel feet and improved the security of the fit by inserting a bit of fabric elastic cord under the ankle peg. The harder plastic curved sole doesn't help stability.



Lionel Messi (yes, the head is not the best color match for the body) wears one of the three ACNToys distressed jeans and belt sets, with a DID striped long-sleeved top, also on an M33 body. The pockets are functional, and the jeans allow the body to sit naturally.



The Frank Stealth Set by OneSix-Verse provided the head and very worn jeans for this M32 body; the sweater comes from Hot Toys' Aldo Rayne; the Speedcross shoes are from Easy & Simple. Once again, the pockets are functional and the jeans allow the body to sit naturally. The sweater fits well, but is not a good look, probably should have gone with the Frank Stealth Set long-sleeved shirt instead.



This one came as a surprise. After (unsurprisingly) failing to get any of the above jeans on the M34 body, the khaki shorts from the Ujindou Edward MacDonald set proved a viable option. The belt cords were a horror, but worked out in the end. The shoes are Magic Cube mens tactical boots, the telnyashka is from DAM (or DID?). I used some elastic cord to tighten the fit of the ankle peg in the shoe opening.

What do you think?

Some of the outfits look great. I particularly like the jeans, especially the worn/weathered ones. Not a fan of the Aldo sweater, either. I’m curious about your ankle technique you mentioned.

Stryker2011 wrote:Some of the outfits look great. I particularly like the jeans, especially the worn/weathered ones. Not a fan of the Aldo sweater, either. I’m curious about your ankle technique you mentioned.

Thank you, I do too. The Aldo sweater seems to be stitched in a way that makes it sit pretty awkwardly -- at least on this body. I was pleased that it fit easily, just not happy with the look. Then again, it is a somewhat odd body (M32).

As for the ankles... You know how sometimes, even if you are lucky enough for the ankle pegs (in this case TBLeague's ankle pegs) to fit inside the opening on a molded shoe or another company's foot, the fit is just a little too loose and, combined with the extra weight of the steel and silicone body, this makes it easier for the body to shift and collapse? One can tighten the fit in various ways -- DeltaForceChung suggested layers of glue or nail polish applied to the surface of the hole-like opening; you have mentioned wrapping some electrical tape around the ankles; I sometimes stuff some scotch tape or foamies for a tighter fit. Well, this time I had a piece of elastic cord (the kind of thing that is now hot for use with masks) lying around, so I cut a couple of small lengths (maybe 1 cm/0.75 inches), placed them above the opening, then plugged the ankle peg in, trapping the elastic cord between the peg and the hole and tightening the fit. One can use more than one length of elastic cord, if a tighter fit is needed. Worked pretty well.

Sounds like a good tip. Thanks for the detailed explanation.

Ok, funny ... the sweater is my fave one!

Nice, they could need some Ushankas and vodka. Or Jogpants (Adidas only)

Is the last guy Guy Pearce on steroids?

Stryker2011 wrote:Sounds like a good tip. Thanks for the detailed explanation.

You're very welcome.

skywalkersaga wrote:Ok, funny ... the sweater is my fave one!

Really? It isn't the sweater itself that I mind, just the way it ended up looking on this body seems a little off to me. What you don't see is the added magic of a little bit of Scotch tape holding the sweater tight from the back. What I do like about the sweater is that it matches those shoes and seems to go with those very soiled jeans, making for a grungy, drab look.

Ovy wrote:Nice, they could need some Ushankas and vodka. Or Jogpants (Adidas only) Is the last guy Guy Pearce on steroids?

I knew this was coming after using two types of Telnyashakas! But no alcohol allowed in the support group. Do you know where I could find some 1/6 Adidas jogpants that won't stain? (I vaguely remember getting some sort of mens sporting set with an oversized David Beckham head a long time ago, but the jogpants and/or shorts stained like crazy. I may have thrown them away in disgust.) I never thought of this head sculpt as Guy Pierce, although apparently it is or at least some others thought so too. It came with the World Box WB-002 body, one of their earliest super durable body offerings.

https://www.monkeydepot.com/Boxed_Figure_World_Box_1_6_Body_2_0_Male_Body_p/wb0004.htm

http://alteregoistical.blogspot.com/2014/08/august-random-purchase.html