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skywalkersaga wrote:Thanks for your input, asgardianboy. I agree that tbleague has quite a few improvements to make, but I'm personally not bothered in the slightest about having totally seamless bodies, for many of the reasons GF stated. But also because I'm perfectly contented to 'hide' the joints when necessary, especially since most of my figures are clothed anyway.

Where I feel tbleague needs to improve is in overall body SHAPE, for both female and male bodies. I don't mind the existing body shapes, but I'd prefer to have a LOT more options in that regard. Tbleague have at least been trying to branch out a tiny bit more with the female bodies in the last year or so, adding a 'buxom' body and some others, but still a bit behind on variety with the male body shapes. Would be nice to have somewhat more versatile 'normal' looking male bodies, for sure.

And we won't even get started on lack of skintone variety. That being said, for now it suits my purposes just fine to use the oil pastel technique to colour bodies in the variations I need.

Headsculpts not matching perfectly is another that.... doesn't really bother me?? I can understand why some people are focused on this, but at the same time... the nature of heads being hard plastic while the bodies are soft silicone means that the light will always be hitting them slightly differently. Probably the main way to get as close as possible to reducing that effect would be to use a matte spray on the headsculpts, like Mr. Super Clear matte varnish. Even then it might not mean the light hits exactly the same, but it might help. Other than that, I'm happy to repaint my sculpts to match bodies when necessary.

With male sculpts, I think some Hot Toys skintones look fine enough with the male tbleague body colour.... at least, when I've compared them in-hand and in photos, the match is 'close enough' that it passes for me. But of course everyone's mileage varies, as does everyone's eye for detail and colour.

As for durability, again, I can understand people's concerns about this, and of course would not recommend going around swapping all bodies to tbleague bodies if one is worried about them not lasting a long time. But for making a custom figure from scratch, I find them perfectly adequate so far. I'd rather create a figure that fits my specifications that will last two or three years before having to potentially replace the body, than never make any figure at all. In some cases, this is the dilemma I have found myself in, and because I am keen to work on certain characters, using these bodies is a risk I'm willing to take. If someday there's a better and more durable option for seamless bodies, then I will go through my customs and try to upgrade them. Until then... I'm happy to take the chance. : )

Re: the WorldBox body, if it is the AT025, then it's one I'm also eyeing up to potentially purchase. I haven't quite decided yet, but if I do go for it I'll report back.

asgardianboy wrote:

I have sent emails to Phicen asking for other builts and skin colours. To no avail.
You can't always cover the wrists/ankles.... :-(
Your tip to "dull up" the head is noted. Light reflection indeed is a very important factor. Thanks! ;-)
I understand you see the business case for your Phicens.
If you ever get the AT025, let us know!
Heads matching Phicen bodies should be more. If restricted to a few heads, the joy of kitbashing with these bodies gets hit. Phicen should fill the colour gap!
Thanks,
m.

skywalkersaga wrote:

asgardianboy wrote:

I have sent emails to Phicen asking for other builts and skin colours. To no avail.
You can't always cover the wrists/ankles.... :-(
Your tip to "dull up" the head is noted. Light reflection indeed is a very important factor. Thanks! ;-)
I understand you see the business case for your Phicens.
If you ever get the AT025, let us know!
Heads matching Phicen bodies should be more. If restricted to a few heads, the joy of kitbashing with these bodies gets hit. Phicen should fill the colour gap!
Thanks,
m.

Sorry they have not responded to your emails about the skintones and body shapes, that's unfortunate. Hopefully they will 'get the memo' all the same and eventually branch out more. The lack of skintone variety is especially eggregious at this stage -- they really should be aiming for more diversity on that score. And I know people will say that this is because 'there aren't any matching headsculpts out there for PoC skintones', but that's not really an excuse. I say that because tbleague does occasionally change their recipe for their standard skintone colours, as we have recently noted in a thread here, and I have likewise noticed that certain headsculpt companies will then change their paintjobs on the heads to 'match' better. I noticed this with the Natalie Portman PT001 headsculpt that started out with the previous 'greyish' tbleague suntan skintone, and then the later ones had different paintjob that matched the newer, more reddish suntan tone. My point being, that if they can change the colour so subtly, then surely if tbleague came out with more skin colours, the headsculpt companies would immediately start putting out heads to match them. Just my feeling anyway. So there isn't really a good reason not to do this, from what I can tell...

And I hope I didn't come across as dismissive about headsculpt-matching issue in general, but just wanted to give the perspective of someone who uses them more for certain types of custom figures where perhaps that side of things is not such a big focus. Of course, everyone's needs and requirements in this hobby vary, and for the sake of those who wish for complete perfection with the skintone matches, I do hope that tbleague/phicen will eventually provide more sculpts. Though again, sometimes whether heads 'match' or not truly is in the eye of the beholder, so even if a company thinks they have made a 'match', it might not look so to us picky customizers and collectors! :'D

asgardianboy wrote:

skywalkersaga wrote:

asgardianboy wrote:

I have sent emails to Phicen asking for other builts and skin colours. To no avail.
You can't always cover the wrists/ankles.... :-(
Your tip to "dull up" the head is noted. Light reflection indeed is a very important factor. Thanks! ;-)
I understand you see the business case for your Phicens.
If you ever get the AT025, let us know!
Heads matching Phicen bodies should be more. If restricted to a few heads, the joy of kitbashing with these bodies gets hit. Phicen should fill the colour gap!
Thanks,
m.

Sorry they have not responded to your emails about the skintones and body shapes, that's unfortunate. Hopefully they will 'get the memo' all the same and eventually branch out more. The lack of skintone variety is especially eggregious at this stage -- they really should be aiming for more diversity on that score. And I know people will say that this is because 'there aren't any matching headsculpts out there for PoC skintones', but that's not really an excuse. I say that because tbleague does occasionally change their recipe for their standard skintone colours, as we have recently noted in a thread here, and I have likewise noticed that certain headsculpt companies will then change their paintjobs on the heads to 'match' better. I noticed this with the Natalie Portman PT001 headsculpt that started out with the previous 'greyish' tbleague suntan skintone, and then the later ones had different paintjob that matched the newer, more reddish suntan tone. My point being, that if they can change the colour so subtly, then surely if tbleague came out with more skin colours, the headsculpt companies would immediately start putting out heads to match them. Just my feeling anyway. So there isn't really a good reason not to do this, from what I can tell...

And I hope I didn't come across as dismissive about headsculpt-matching issue in general, but just wanted to give the perspective of someone who uses them more for certain types of custom figures where perhaps that side of things is not such a big focus. Of course, everyone's needs and requirements in this hobby vary, and for the sake of those who wish for complete perfection with the skintone matches, I do hope that tbleague/phicen will eventually provide more sculpts. Though again, sometimes whether heads 'match' or not truly is in the eye of the beholder, so even if a company thinks they have made a 'match', it might not look so to us picky customizers and collectors! :'D

TBLeague doesn't even have to go multicolour. They only need to provide neutral tone bodies, different colour dye kits, and a colour guide showing how to achieve different usual skin colours (I think it is a thread on OSW on which they are successfully dyeing Phicen bodies with Rit Dye, and Phicen really should read that one).

m.

asgardianboy wrote:I have sent emails to Phicen asking for other builts and skin colours. To no avail.
You can't always cover the wrists/ankles.... :-(
Your tip to "dull up" the head is noted. Light reflection indeed is a very important factor. Thanks! ;-)
I understand you see the business case for your Phicens.
If you ever get the AT025, let us know!
Heads matching Phicen bodies should be more. If restricted to a few heads, the joy of kitbashing with these bodies gets hit. Phicen should fill the colour gap!

silverfox7119 wrote:Hello friend, Do you have decolorize issues of this figure? when i got it in first day, i unbox it just get a few touch and then i noticed it color are started fading! even it getting worse after that... this is how ridiculous for me! contact supplier still not reply... i felt like being cheated!

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