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History of Artillery-- 17th century

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41History of Artillery-- 17th century - Page 3 Empty Re: History of Artillery-- 17th century Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:24 pm

Stryker2011


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Ovy wrote:
GregT wrote:
Ovy wrote:...did you ever come across a 1/6 Morion?

I have one that's, how shall I say.... toyish.
and one that's very, very nice. I'll post a pic if you like
Intresting, if you find the time, feel free to post them here.

I second that.

42History of Artillery-- 17th century - Page 3 Empty Re: History of Artillery-- 17th century Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:04 pm

GregT


Mixing cultures with Samurai and a (captured?) Chinese cannon
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The Bai Zi Fo Lang Ji diagram here shows the type of gun carriage Kong Ling Ge might have based their 1/6 model on--
https://greatmingmilitary.blogspot.com/2015/04/breech-loading-cannons-of-ming-dynasty.html
(notice the term "hundred bullet Frankish engine")

from author Tonio Andrade--
https://brill.com/view/journals/jemh/19/4/article-p311_2.xml
"...the rapid adoption of western artillery may have started around the time of the Sino-Portuguese Conflict,
but it continued through the ensuing decades, as the Ming redesigned Portuguese-style guns and adapted
them to their own needs until the only thing western about them was their name: Frankish guns."
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This piece is most probably the kind of cannon they patterned the tube on
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This is an interesting website--
http://dragonsarmory.blogspot.com/2017/04/death-from-above-rocket-wagons.html


The figures are DiD Hideyoshi and Masamune, just beautiful and very heavy
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43History of Artillery-- 17th century - Page 3 Empty Re: History of Artillery-- 17th century Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:22 pm

GubernatorFan


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Another gorgeous bunch!

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44History of Artillery-- 17th century - Page 3 Empty Re: History of Artillery-- 17th century Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:41 am

Stryker2011


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That is so cool. And your research and sources really paid off. Well done.

45History of Artillery-- 17th century - Page 3 Empty Re: History of Artillery-- 17th century Thu Dec 03, 2020 6:31 am

blackpool

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That's amazing! Love it!

46History of Artillery-- 17th century - Page 3 Empty Re: History of Artillery-- 17th century Thu Dec 03, 2020 6:40 am

skywalkersaga

skywalkersaga
Another great set of historical figures and artillery, and beautifully presented!


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47History of Artillery-- 17th century - Page 3 Empty Re: History of Artillery-- 17th century Sun Dec 06, 2020 9:58 am

Theboo-bomb

Theboo-bomb
Really liking that conquistador, for the longest time I've wanted to make one but the closest I've gotten is this, I would like to make a figure a bit further back than that sometime.

Also I was having a bit of trouble visualizing the Japanese cannon, It is an interesting piece for sure, I had thought originally that they had some padding at the back to deal with recoil, perhaps this deals with recoil a bit but that's just assuming stuff. Great canons and great figures.


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All of my alt-history themed figures in one convenient link! BooBomb's alt history figures! History of Artillery-- 17th century - Page 3 1f60e

48History of Artillery-- 17th century - Page 3 Empty Re: History of Artillery-- 17th century Sun Dec 06, 2020 3:33 pm

Ovy

Ovy
Those samurai looks wonderfully detailed. The person who put the thread through all the little scales really knows what they did in the end of the day. That crazy rising sun headpiece is insane.


I wonder where the history of artillery will end one day. Oribtal lasers? The moon with thrusters?

49History of Artillery-- 17th century - Page 3 Empty Re: History of Artillery-- 17th century Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:14 pm

ThePhotogsBlog

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"C'est avec l'artillerie que l'on fait la guerre."

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50History of Artillery-- 17th century - Page 3 Empty Re: History of Artillery-- 17th century Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:09 pm

GregT


Theboo-bomb wrote:I had thought originally that they had some padding at the back to deal with recoil...
I'm with you on this, the ball for a cannon that caliber might weigh
17 or 18 pounds. the recoil seems like it would shatter such a carriage.
I thought maybe it was for transport, and the cannon mounted on beds like this for firing--
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the weight of the Chinese cannon is far behind the cart axle, but
used in tandem with another two-wheeled cart it seems feasible...
thanks for your comments, Boo!

51History of Artillery-- 17th century - Page 3 Empty Re: History of Artillery-- 17th century Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:43 am

GregT


let's wrap this up with a little bit of the 17th century, and maybe continue with 18/19/20th centuries in another thread later on
with the more commercially available field artillery and uniforms. thanks for all the kind comments, everybody!


Thirty Years' War
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this is a Denix cannon with bigger wheels and hubs made out of old sewing thread spools, with a couple of characters
in the Ignite musketeer uniforms soaked in strong tea. the matchlock and powder cartridge belt is from the inimitable
Tony Barton, the rope-wrapped powder barrels were fashioned from chunks of old wood.

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English Civil War
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this fellow reminds me of the Waggoner in this pic from Haythornthwaite's  The English Civil War--
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Fav Pike'n'Shot Pics - Page 29 - Armchair General and HistoryNet >> The Best Forums in History
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I had the tube and the wheels but couldn't find a small split-trail carriage for 'em so I had to make one from scratch
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Early 17th century
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these are the older SST figures, one in the Ignite French Guardsman outfit (w/what might be the finest 1/6 rapier ever made,
and flintlock pistol by Tony Barton). their facial hair seemed appropriate for the era


Ottoman-Habsburg Wars, late 17th century
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52History of Artillery-- 17th century - Page 3 Empty Re: History of Artillery-- 17th century Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:04 am

skywalkersaga

skywalkersaga
Ooooooh, these are awesome!!!!


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53History of Artillery-- 17th century - Page 3 Empty Re: History of Artillery-- 17th century Thu Dec 10, 2020 10:06 am

Valiarde

Valiarde
Wow I love them - stunning realisitc figures and the cannon is on fire Very Happy

Very cool! Those outfits are the best


30y war ones and ottoman-habsburg are my favourite from among your figures


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54History of Artillery-- 17th century - Page 3 Empty Re: History of Artillery-- 17th century Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:33 pm

GubernatorFan

GubernatorFan
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I love these figures. It is so impressive that you have amassed/created not only a collection of artillery pieces from different eras, but also the appropriate personnel and characters -- and sometimes background props -- to go with them. You can set up a whole museum exhibit!


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55History of Artillery-- 17th century - Page 3 Empty Re: History of Artillery-- 17th century Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:57 pm

Ovy

Ovy
Stunning again, might be one of your best artillery entries yet, if they can be compared anyway. Those heads are great and very unique looking, no known actors and nice long hairstyles on some. The carriers look incredibly real.  The outdoor shot woth the horse is my favourite, nice piece of wall you got there.

Will we see the full rapier, as it is one of the finest ever made?

56History of Artillery-- 17th century - Page 3 Empty Re: History of Artillery-- 17th century Thu Dec 10, 2020 6:34 pm

Theboo-bomb

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I'm loving all those wonderful artillery pieces. Those figures reminded me of this painting by Eugenio Caxés which portrays the Battle of San Juan of 1625.
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57History of Artillery-- 17th century - Page 3 Empty Re: History of Artillery-- 17th century Thu Dec 10, 2020 7:08 pm

GregT


Ovy wrote:Will we see the full rapier?

the two on the left are mix-and-match Toledo letter openers, I did the belts and sewed
the scabbard for the foreground one. upper right is the conquistador John Carter of Mars
sword, the Ignite belt/frog and sword hilt are delicate little gems
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58History of Artillery-- 17th century - Page 3 Empty Re: History of Artillery-- 17th century Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:57 am

Stryker2011

Stryker2011
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Wow! I love all these new figures and cannon. Really great attention to detail, particularly on the one you had to make from scratch. Your French Guardsman is so cool; another area I’d like to get into is recreating the Musketeers from Dumas’s book (mainly based on the engravings from the original novel — but I’d settle for them based on the movie with Michael York, etc.). Awesome stuff.


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59History of Artillery-- 17th century - Page 3 Empty Re: History of Artillery-- 17th century Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:07 am

tankgirlfuzzy

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There's so much to like about all of this, hard to know where to begin! At first I was confused as I didn't catch when it was first posted, and the title said Tenochtitlan 1521 but I saw Romans and their catapult!  Laughing
But seriously, that catapult, all the cannons and their customizations, the figures that went with them, all beautifully put together and photographed. And yes, you have to shoot video of that catapult firing and post it for us!

Awesome job!


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