Now Censored: TBLeague / Phicen and other seamless bodies

NavySubGuy wrote:

MoonsBlessing wrote:I just got a new jiaou doll and the one I got is censored doesn't have details on body anymore I'm very disappointed because Liked the realistic details for art

Just curious ... ... did the seller tell you that it was not the original product that you were buying?

Or did they just send it out and hoped that you didn't notice or complain?

MoonsBlessing wrote:I wish I knew about this sooner because now I can't find the old one anymore anywhere

MoonsBlessing wrote:

NavySubGuy wrote:

MoonsBlessing wrote:I just got a new jiaou doll and the one I got is censored doesn't have details on body anymore I'm very disappointed because Liked the realistic details for art

Just curious ... ... did the seller tell you that it was not the original product that you were buying?

Or did they just send it out and hoped that you didn't notice or complain?

they just sent it without saying there was a different body

ThePhotogsBlog wrote:As I have stated elsewhere, the only thing that will persuade the manufacturers to find some way around the censorship regulations is if they suffer a huge drop in sales because of it. That will not happen if we just keep shrugging our shoulders and buying the new versions.  

collectorofmany wrote:I received an email last week from Ekia Hobbies, and they’re aware of the changeover to the Phicen/TBLeague bodies:

“TBLeague Pre 2024 Bodies, uncensored version. New Version will mark V24 on item names.”

They have denoted on all of their online listings the code “V24” which denotes the 2024 version. As far as I can tell, if a listing does not include V24, then you are ordering the pre-censored version.

https://www.ekiahobbies.com/1-6-bodies-and-heads/

Get them while you can!

MoonsBlessing wrote:Was lied to on ebay from seller saying it was the old ones but sent me new censored figure

NavySubGuy wrote:

MoonsBlessing wrote:Was lied to on ebay from seller saying it was the old ones but sent me new censored figure

Is it allowed, on this FORUM, to say who the eBay dealer was?

I have been fortunate to deal with three very trustworthy dealers who have searched "their" distributors (and other locations known to themselves) to find OLD STOCK figures, not the V24 versions for me.

Recently, I have been purchasing just bodies, while holding back on head sculpts, clothing outfits scenery and accessories.

So far, I have 37 TBLeague / Phicen figures with only a few more to go. There are four bodies that are really difficult to find.

I have not seen, in person, a V24 figure, but I have been led to believe by the dealers and other collectors that the censoring is awkwardly apparent. I have been told, the new bodies are NOT as well made.

It appears they have simply patched the original molds to rush them out the door. The results are not as good when compared to the originals, with mixed matched coloring and noticeable skin imperfections.

[MoonsBlessing, was your figure up to TBL standard, other than the censoring?]

Also, expect the non-V24 figures to start going for higher prices when buying from those (people ) who are only out to scam you and your wallet.

Sorry to hear about your figure.

its a jiaou doll but it does looks kinda sloppily censored but otherwise looks ok guess, I haven't taken it out to see and feel it  because I was hoping  to return it

NavySubGuy wrote:I have not heard if LDDOLL or UANDD or others will also alter their figures.

ZombieTestSubject wrote:That's a sad development, although it's not going to break this hobby, I think. But happy there are still realistic options around. Do we have a review on these LDDOLL bodies?

Visisonor wrote:There are some promising developments with VeryCool seamless bodies.
But reports are conflicting, people at BBICN say their samples are censored, while samples received by people in this thread are not.

gooboo wrote:. Anyway, it just a temporary solution during the special period I guess. Of course, you can send an email to consult them directly."

I wonder if it's just a temporary thing, trying to avoid the eye of the CCP, or if it's permanent.

GeeWillikers wrote:

davidd wrote:Specifically, what is being changed or removed?

Genital details? Or are the busts also being redesigned?

Genital details and nipples, at least in the case of TBL's female figures - and I also assume Jiaou's. How this will extend to male figures remains to be seen (I imagine it's almost certain that the optional male genitals will not be included again in future).

Personally I could care less about 'genital details', but erasing nipples from figures is just ridiculous.

I also messaged Amelia at GianToy to ask about the situation and here's her response:

"Thanks a lot for contacting us. Yeah unfortunately this is true.

So it started from a mom that caught [her] pupil son playing with a very sexy little figurine (not 1/6 action figures in realistic style, it's one of those small anime character statues, with very tempting body details and almost no clothes I suppose), and she got so concerned to have to call the journalists to expose this as a "scandal" of the toy industry trying to poison an innocent child. So, this went up on television and aroused some debates. Government visited lots of toy factories, and require them to make sure they future products comply with the policies related to children.

It does not really matter whether the product says "only for adults" on the packaging. As long as it could be exposed to a child as a "toy", it needs to meet the regulations. It's a grey area for some of the body products in 1/6 scale, but most factories might choose to play safe. It's not an easy decision to make for them I'm sure but as a big company they need to think in the long term.

Most of the bodies we stock now are the new version, btw."


This makes it sound like it's a permanent change, that will affect all brands of seamless 1/6 figures going forward.

Well, due to various factors like finances and health concerns I've been on the fence about continuing with the hobby for a while now, and this development is just another added factor against. I've got a couple of outstanding preorders from last year still to be fulfilled, and from then on I think it'll just be the odd speciality set for me (like that cool Middle Ages Blacksmith set from Pop that was showcased last year, if it ever gets released).

Miodh wrote:This seems like legal nonsense. If they're marked as adults only, then the mother should be prosecuted by the government. It all sounds like an excuse.  Example there's adult m*sterbation devices made etc that can be found.

It should hinge around one unhinged woman, when millions are ok with it. The government ignores plenty of sole voices on a range of subjects such as christians on banning demon toys and there's thousands of them asking for it...

The other thing I want you to tell me is how you know these people on a first name basis like you have them all on emails. I can't even find a whole company. Where do you get this info?

Devil34 wrote:I read the whole thread. It's a shame since I only have a 1/6 body (I'm just starting my collection) and the truth is that I do care that they are anatomically correct. I was thinking of buying one more body this year (one with light skin).

NavySubGuy wrote:

Devil34 wrote:I read the whole thread. It's a shame since I only have a 1/6 body (I'm just starting my collection) and the truth is that I do care that they are anatomically correct. I was thinking of buying one more body this year (one with light skin).

Hey Devil34 .... The uncensored figures can still be found if you check with your favorite dealers.

I have found that the dealers that ship out of CHINA will (almost) always send a "new stock" V24 censored figure. Even if you message them and request a verification that is not V24 you will most likely get a V24. They count on the fact that you have to pay for shipping if you wish to return it to China.

I now have gone to strictly USA dealers and make sure that they have "OLD INVENTORY" or "OLD STOCK".

At this point I don't really care to much about the censoring, other than being lied to or having purchased a S07 (for example) and getting a figure a bit above a Barbie doll. Lately my $$$ have been in buying clothes and accessories or backdrop material.

My wife is a medical illustrator and a graphic artist. She was more concerned about the censoring than me (go figure). I have about 45 Old Stock figures but can't really tell when they are all in costume.

Good luck with your figure hunting.

French wrote:I haven't read everything, but the fact that bodies no longer have certain anatomical details, like the pubis, is not a big deal.

When I create figurines, I don't see the point in having this kind of detail. You exhibit your creations dressed and not naked.
I think that the public for sexualized figurines will buy other types of products.

What is annoying for me is that women's clothes are often tight-fitting and sometimes "transparent", to avoid this problem I buy men's clothes.

Creating a figurine of Van Diesel, Sebastian Stan or Scarlett Johanson to put them completely naked has no point.

MoonsBlessing wrote:

NavySubGuy wrote:

Devil34 wrote:I read the whole thread. It's a shame since I only have a 1/6 body (I'm just starting my collection) and the truth is that I do care that they are anatomically correct. I was thinking of buying one more body this year (one with light skin).

Hey Devil34 .... The uncensored figures can still be found if you check with your favorite dealers.

I have found that the dealers that ship out of CHINA will (almost) always send a "new stock" V24 censored figure. Even if you message them and request a verification that is not V24 you will most likely get a V24. They count on the fact that you have to pay for shipping if you wish to return it to China.

I now have gone to strictly USA dealers and make sure that they have "OLD INVENTORY" or "OLD STOCK".

At this point I don't really care to much about the censoring, other than being lied to or having purchased a S07 (for example) and getting a figure a bit above a Barbie doll. Lately my $$$ have been in buying clothes and accessories or backdrop material.

My wife is a medical illustrator and a graphic artist. She was more concerned about the censoring than me (go figure). I have about 45 Old Stock figures but can't really tell when they are all in costume.

Good luck with your figure hunting.

what sellers do you use?

French wrote:I haven't read everything, but the fact that bodies no longer have certain anatomical details, like the pubis, is not a big deal.

When I create figurines, I don't see the point in having this kind of detail. You exhibit your creations dressed and not naked.
I think that the public for sexualized figurines will buy other types of products.

What is annoying for me is that women's clothes are often tight-fitting and sometimes "transparent", to avoid this problem I buy men's clothes.

Creating a figurine of Van Diesel, Sebastian Stan or Scarlett Johanson to put them completely naked has no point.

ThePhotogsBlog wrote:

French wrote:I haven't read everything, but the fact that bodies no longer have certain anatomical details, like the pubis, is not a big deal.

When I create figurines, I don't see the point in having this kind of detail. You exhibit your creations dressed and not naked.
I think that the public for sexualized figurines will buy other types of products.

What is annoying for me is that women's clothes are often tight-fitting and sometimes "transparent", to avoid this problem I buy men's clothes.

Creating a figurine of Van Diesel, Sebastian Stan or Scarlett Johanson to put them completely naked has no point.

No point to you perhaps, but clearly it was a major selling point to many, many other customers, else why bother including them? You are judging everyone by your own standards and preferences.  

NavySubGuy wrote:

French wrote:I haven't read everything, but the fact that bodies no longer have certain anatomical details, like the pubis, is not a big deal.

When I create figurines, I don't see the point in having this kind of detail. You exhibit your creations dressed and not naked.
I think that the public for sexualized figurines will buy other types of products.

What is annoying for me is that women's clothes are often tight-fitting and sometimes "transparent", to avoid this problem I buy men's clothes.

Creating a figurine of Van Diesel, Sebastian Stan or Scarlett Johanson to put them completely naked has no point.

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As I mentioned above, being censored is NOT a showstopper for me.

But .. if it "is not a big deal" then why is the Chinese government, so hell bent on stopping companies from making these figures censored and forcing their opinions on the rest of the world?

I can't see your point of "tight-fitting" or "transparent" clothes being annoying and being forced to by men's clothes.

There are far more standard outfits and apparel then sexualized items. What do you search for???