NEW PRODUCT: [High-heeled slender] TBLeague: 1/6 rubberized super movable long-legged narrow shoulder female body - a total of two S32A & S33B

Ok, interesting. NOT what I was expecting at all based on the pics, but I am liking the look of it so far. 

Thank you for the comparison pics, they greatly assist in giving an idea of what to expect.

Looks quite good. The neck articulation, at least, is apparently an improvement; the look at the wrists (due to the way the silicone is molded) remains an issue as before. Thanks for the photos.

Thanks for the pics. I'll be ordering one myself just as soon as I have a bit more moolah to waste on such things.

Oh, definitely a body with nice form! I think it'll really fit asian headsculpts nicely as well in order to create your own pop group like this one The lady being focused on, named Aisha from the Everglow group, seems to have a similar figure as with this TBLeague body.

Stryker2011 wrote: I guess the neck and wrist issue isn’t going to go away anytime soon.

To be honest, with the wrists - and to a lesser extent here the ankles - if anything it's worse than usual as there is no tapering of the lower arms toward the wrist with this model. At least on most older models they made an attempt at it even if it didn't convince entirely, but they don't seem to be bothering at all here. I don't know if it's a design choice or a moulding problem due to the shortness of the arm and/or thickness of the skin, but it's the aspect of this model I'm least pleased with. The skin certainly seems thicker over all though (when bending the elbow the skeleton is less visible than usual) so that might be a factor too.

As usual these are problems that TBL will probably address with a second edition if you're prepared to wait that long (and if it even bothers you in the first place). The second edition S20a, S22a and S23b are certainly different to the first runs of those models.

The wrist issue was there with the 25/26 and the 28/29 as well, but with the latter, they managed to hide it a little by making the hands (and feet) larger.

It’s not a massive problem for me personally, as I will be covering up the wrists and ankles with clothing, but aesthetically I agree it is a bit distracting when viewed ‘nude’. But I feel that way about most of the tbleague bodies, to some degree or another...

bring back the floppy feet and nicely shaped wrists!!!

skywalkersaga wrote:The wrist issue was there with the 25/26 and the 28/29 as well, but with the latter, they managed to hide it a little by making the hands (and feet) larger.

It’s not a massive problem for me personally, as I will be covering up the wrists and ankles with clothing, but aesthetically I agree it is a bit distracting when viewed ‘nude’. But I feel that way about most of the tbleague bodies, to some degree or another...

Same here. I generally cover the wrists with wrist bands or guards of some sort, and the feet are usually in boots or footware stockings that cover these issues up. The same goes for the nude figures. This is an area where you can not really have perfection.

ThePhotogsBlog wrote:

skywalkersaga wrote:The wrist issue was there with the 25/26 and the 28/29 as well, but with the latter, they managed to hide it a little by making the hands (and feet) larger.

It’s not a massive problem for me personally, as I will be covering up the wrists and ankles with clothing, but aesthetically I agree it is a bit distracting when viewed ‘nude’. But I feel that way about most of the tbleague bodies, to some degree or another...

Same here.  I generally cover the wrists with wrist bands or guards of some sort, and the feet are usually in boots or footware  stockings that cover these issues up.  The same goes for the nude figures.  This is an area where you can not really have perfection.

I fixed this by gluing (don't panic) the wrists and the hands, which palms point forwards, with paper glue, the one that easily peal. For this the thick side of the wrist follows the thick side of the hand, so when the palms face inwards, I have nice thin wrists in the view.

Interesting technique, thedude.


And welcome aboard!

thedude wrote:I fixed this by gluing (don't panic) the wrists and the hands, which palms point forwards, with paper glue, the one that easily peal. For this the thick side of the wrist follows the thick side of the hand, so when the palms face inwards, I have nice thin wrists in the view.

That is interesting. No damage to the silicone and to the plastic? Doesn't stick to the metal? And no unsightly twist effect over the lower arm? Perhaps you could share a photo. I like the idea, but I imagine it would problematize swapping hands, but I suppose one could peal it off and reapply.

GubernatorFan wrote:

thedude wrote:I fixed this by gluing (don't panic) the wrists and the hands, which palms point forwards, with paper glue, the one that easily peal. For this the thick side of the wrist follows the thick side of the hand, so when the palms face inwards, I have nice thin wrists in the view.

That is interesting. No damage to the silicone and to the plastic? Doesn't stick to the metal? And no unsightly twist effect over the lower arm? Perhaps you could share a photo. I like the idea, but I imagine it would problematize swapping hands, but I suppose one could peal it off and reapply.

That is correct, no harm as I know, you can peel it and reapply. In case we are seeing different kinds of glue, the one I am referring to is made of gluten and water, and is water-soluble. You might want to dust the silicon with powder so it peals more easily, and scratch the wrists of the plastic hands so the glue sticks better to them.

And thanks to the member that greeted me.

That's a very interesting solution, thedude! And one that I'd certainly not thought to try, thank you for sharing.  

And another warm welcome to you. 

UPDATE:

Hm. Well. Unhappily, I can now report two small but worrisome skin-tears already on this one, to 'compliment' the damage to two of the three new S28/29s I own. Older bodies seem to be noticably more durable than these, and I'm also finding similar issues with newer editions of older models.  I'm now wondering if there's been a change in the formula or they're now using a lower-grade silicone, because problems with three out of four new bodies seems like more than just bad luck. Sure, these things can be repaired or modded around, but that's hardly the point.

I'm not doing anything unusual with these latest bodies either - no extreme posing, and I'm storing them in a 'neutral' stance - so I'm beginning to have serious doubts about how they are being manufactured, now.

I've got a Nancy In Hell set on order (which uses a 28/29 body by the looks of it) and I'll (eventually) be getting an S33 (either as a standalone or as part of the new Vampirella set) so we'll see how they work out. But frankly, if I have any more problems with them, then I think I'll be sticking with the older models from then on...

GeeWillikers wrote:UPDATE:

Hm. Well. Unhappily, I can now report two small but worrisome skin-tears already on this one, to 'compliment' the damage to two of the three new S28/29s I own. Older bodies seem to be noticably more durable than these, and I'm also finding similar issues with newer editions of older models.  I'm now wondering if there's been a change in the formula or they're now using a lower-grade silicone, because problems with three out of four new bodies seems like more than just bad luck. Sure, these things can be repaired or modded around, but that's hardly the point.

I'm not doing anything unusual with these latest bodies either - no extreme posing, and I'm storing them in a 'neutral' stance - so I'm beginning to have serious doubts about how they are being manufactured, now.

I've got a Nancy In Hell set on order (which uses a 28/29 body by the looks of it) and I'll (eventually) be getting an S33 (either as a standalone or as part of the new Vampirella set) so we'll see how they work out. But frankly, if I have any more problems with them, then I think I'll be sticking with the older models from then on...

Thanks for the info.  That makes think twice about ordering a newer figure for sure. I may just do what you are doing until TBLeague sorts the issue out. They surely will if the problem persists and sales plummet.

ThePhotogsBlog wrote:

Thanks for the info.  That makes think twice about ordering a newer figure for sure.  I may just do what you are doing until TBLeague sorts the issue out.  They surely will if the problem persists and sales plummet.

It's a real dilemma. The two new body designs are arguably their best yet (certainly the most realistic), but in my experience the build quality seems seriously lacking.

But yeah - I have bodies two or three years older than these that have no problems at all, but I shudder to imagine the condition these new bodies will be in in three year's time.

GeeWillikers wrote:

ThePhotogsBlog wrote:

Thanks for the info.  That makes think twice about ordering a newer figure for sure.  I may just do what you are doing until TBLeague sorts the issue out.  They surely will if the problem persists and sales plummet.

It's a real dilemma. The two new body designs are arguably their best yet (certainly the most realistic) but the build quality seems seriously lacking.

But yeah - I have bodies two or three years older than these that have no problems at all, but I shudder to imagine the condition these new bodies will be in in three year's time.

Sometimes when a company expands too quickly, it experiences a loss in quality control. That's when complaints about the product start piling up and sales start to drop. At that point, they can either fix the problem, or lose money and sales to the competition until they go out of business.

This being said, I was going to buy one of the new bodies very soon as I am working on a new figure and have been buying parts from Monkey Depot, but given your report, I'll probably order one of the older figures instead and wait and see if they sort themselves out.

Sorry to hear of your problems with these— can you elaborate on where the skin tears occurred? Just curious in case I get one, what to be aware of...

Here's one of the skin-tears, just so you don't need to only rely on my opinion of it:



As you can see, it's at the shoulder joint, but I stress I have NOT put the arm into any extreme positions.

I've done an emergency repair with silicone glue to avoid it worsening. With some tidying-up and a few added cosmetic touches it will hopefully look like a scar.

The other skin-tear is in an 'intimate area' so NSFW.



I hope I can salvage it as I've got the new Avril Lavigne sculpt on this body and it's a near-ideal match (see below).

Ah, is that the shoulder crease area?

I’m curious because I have noticed that area seems a little thin/delicate on my s25b and s27b, as well. I’ve been doing a lot of colouring with oil pastels and thus noticing areas where the silicone is quite thin, since I have to be careful how much pressure I use in those areas. The other spot that seemed thin is the area between the ‘crotch’ and the upper thighs.

Since these smaller bodies have been my first experience with tbleague bodies in general, it didn’t occur to me that this might be a flaw, I just sort of presumed that in certain smaller or slimmer designs, that there is only so thick the silicone can be.

Not trying to be an apologist for tbleague as it definitely seems like there are some QC issues with the more recent bodies, but just sharing my perspective.

skywalkersaga wrote:Ah, is that the shoulder crease area?

I’m curious because I have noticed that area seems a little thin/delicate on my s25b and s27b, as well. I’ve been doing a lot of colouring with oil pastels and thus noticing areas where the silicone is quite thin, since I have to be careful how much pressure I use in those areas. The other spot that seemed thin is the area between the ‘crotch’ and the upper thighs.  

Ah, yes! And those are the two areas where the tears have occured on my S32, and, if you remember my earlier review I opined that these bodies were basically upscaled 24/25s (I only have a sole S24 in my collection).

I think you're onto something!

It is very disappointing to see the relatively high standard of quality they had achieved apparently beginning to decline.

GubernatorFan wrote:It is very disappointing to see the relatively high standard of quality they had achieved apparently beginning to decline.

Let us hope they take note of this and fix the problem.

GeeWillikers wrote:

skywalkersaga wrote:Ah, is that the shoulder crease area?

I’m curious because I have noticed that area seems a little thin/delicate on my s25b and s27b, as well. I’ve been doing a lot of colouring with oil pastels and thus noticing areas where the silicone is quite thin, since I have to be careful how much pressure I use in those areas. The other spot that seemed thin is the area between the ‘crotch’ and the upper thighs.  

Ah, yes! And those are the two areas where the tears have occured on my S32, and, if you remember my earlier review I opined that these bodies were basically upscaled 24/25s (I only have a sole S24 in my collection).

I think you're onto something!

 Interesting -- glad I was not imagining that these areas seem *especially* delicate. I've had to be incredibly careful when colouring them, so much so that I don't dare put pressure from the pastel stick directly onto the 'skin', but rather have been using a makeup sponge to gently apply the colour. All the same, it's been hard to get the pastel to stick in those spots, and I've sort of given up and just accepted it's going to be a little lighter in certain areas. I think this is the reality of these smaller bodies, that the silicone is just super thin. Which is not to say that's an excuse for it tearing so easily, all the same. :/

I'm still interested in getting one of these, as even with the issue you mention, it would still be an upgrade from the current crappy Kumik body the headsculpt is on. I need a body that I can colour and that can actually stand on its own two feet and hold a pose. I realize there are older tbleague models that fit that bill as well, but I just happen to prefer the shape of this one over many of the previous ones. That said, I may wait a little while to see if further 'batches' improve on this issue or not.

@GeeWillikers - Thanks to your posts, I've decided to order one S33B for a bash in mind.
I just want to know if your S32A feet are the regular-sized ones (same as S16 through S23)? Or are they the larger feet like the S28A/S29B?

rollotomasi wrote:@GeeWillikers - Thanks to your posts, I've decided to order one S33B for a bash in mind.
I just want to know if your S32A feet are the regular-sized ones (same as S16 through S23)? Or are they the larger feet like the S28A/S29B?

I'm pretty sure they're the regular ones - they're definitely not the larger 28/29 ones, anyway. The pegs are also regular sized.

I've not had any further problems with mine by the way.

Thanks for the info. Bummer that my local stores aren't carrying S32A & S33B, so i can check the skintone compatibility with my heads on the spot, probably because they got stuck with a bunch of S28/S29's.

I just received my S33B body a few days ago. It's my first body so I am unable to put pictures of comparison between the S33B and other bodies.

I hope the pictures are censored enough to adhere to forum rules about posting pictures. I will still tag it "not safe for work".

I present you S33B:

The imgur album can be found here : PHMB2019-S33B

The body seem to be coated with a white powder, which I presume to help keep the silicone flesh from turning into a sticky mess.

As this is my first body, I'd like to ask for advice on how to properly care for it. For now the body will sit in storage until November where the clothes and head sculpt are estimated to arrive.

Thanks in advance!

dtny16 wrote:I just received my S33B body a few days ago. It's my first body so I am unable to put pictures of comparison between the S33B and other bodies.

The body seem to be coated with a white powder, which I presume to help keep the silicone flesh from turning into a sticky mess.

As this is my first body, I'd like to ask for advice on how to properly care for it. For now the body will sit in storage until November where the clothes and head sculpt are estimated to arrive.

Thanks in advance!

Yes, the powder is supposed to keep the body from being too sticky and from getting worn or damaged. You should add more after prolonged or intensive handling, if you feel it is starting to get tacky. You can use silicone finishing powder or starch or baby powder -- they all apparently make do. We really ought to have a thread or tutorial all about taking care of these bodies, but that info is scattered around various topics and posts. I'd store the body in a Hefty or Ziplock bag together with its accessories and the little silica pack to keep things dry -- seems to work for me anyway.

The more comprehensive reviews of TBLeague bodies do include the basic pointers, for example:
https://onesixthfigures.forumotion.com/t247-tbleague-phicen-m35-updated-photo-heavy (the actual review starts in Post 14, and the most relevant section is "Things to watch out for").

Hope this helps.