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TBLeague Super Flexible Female Seamless Bodies S24A-S27B

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GubernatorFan wrote:This is a very brief product review of the recently announced and just released TBLeague Super Flexible Female Seamless Bodies S24A, S25B, S26A, and S27B.

These are now out, and already available not only in China, but also the States. I bought from China to save money (since I was ordering several), and mine just arrived. Here are a few notes and a couple of photos.

The bodies are nicely proportioned and shaped in a fit, yet not excessive manner. The sculpting is very detailed, while the coloring is very subtle. They come in pale and (new) suntan, both being quite light in color; in fact the difference between the two skin tones is fairly minor. We get pretty much all that we have come to expect: a steel-skeleton body in a silicon "skin" (really, "flesh"), plus two pairs of removable feet (flat and heel) and three pairs of hands (relaxed, fist, and gun-grip). Unlike some recent TBLeague female seamless body releases, the box does not include the basic bikini or any other clothing. The compartment that would have held the clothing is filled with a little citrus-scented packet.

S24A and S26A are pale, S25B and S27B are suntan; S24A and S25B are slightly shorter than their predecessors (at about 27 cm tall including a head), while S26A and S27B are even more petite (at about 26 cm tall including a head).

To the usual challenge of finding a head sculpt that would match the skin tone closely enough, we now have to add the additional challenge of finding a head sculpt that would not appear too large for the body (and here the actual head size and the hair style are both factors). The VTS Furiosa head would fit beautifully if it weren't as tanned and as dirty; the TIFA head matches the (new) suntan beautifully, but looks just a bit too big. Nevertheless it is possible to find decent matches for the skin tone and the head size. I have tried to do that in the photos that follow, but there may well be other and better options. One thing that is a bit annoying is that the new bodies come with a smaller knob at the end of the neck peg, and one usually has to do something to make the fit with a head sculpt more secure -- I have resorted to packing in some thin slivers of foamies. I really do not see why this innovation was necessary or how it could have been particularly helpful, even within TBLeague (even if they were going to produce slightly smaller heads, that hardly requires resizing the neck knob).

These minor challenges apart, overall all four new bodies are a very good product that addresses the generally overly-tall issue of Phicen/TBLeague female bodies. Can it be improved? Of course. But it is as good as what we have come to expect from this company.

Hope this helps.

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If it helps any, I've just mated up a new Super Duck head with the S24A body and the scaling seems quite good, but the skin tone is way darker.

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skywalkersaga


Thank so much for sharing --that is indeed a helpful reference.

And your post-apocalyptic pinupgirl is looking good! So sorry that the skintone isn't quite a match, that is always so frustrating. But you are right that it seems ok scale-wise, at least.

ETA: Quick question -- do you by any chance have any pics of her standing next to male figures, for reference? Smile

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skywalkersaga wrote:Thank so much for sharing --that is indeed a helpful reference.

And your post-apocalyptic pinupgirl is looking good! So sorry that the skintone isn't quite a match, that is always so frustrating. But you are right that it seems ok scale-wise, at least.

ETA: Quick question -- do you by any chance have any pics of her standing next to male figures, for reference? Smile


This is the only figure I have so far; the first in the collection, but GovernatorFan has put up some images of these figures next to a male figure for comparison in a review of the TB League figures.

skywalkersaga


ThePhotogsBlog wrote:
skywalkersaga wrote:

ETA: Quick question -- do you by any chance have any pics of her standing next to male figures, for reference? Smile


This is the only figure I have so far; the first in the collection, but GovernatorFan has put up some images of these figures next to a male figure for comparison in a review of the TB League figures.

Oh, my bad! I did see you say that, but then got distracted by the little world you were creating, and forgot that there wasn't anyone else in it yet, lol! XD

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skywalkersaga wrote:
ThePhotogsBlog wrote:
skywalkersaga wrote:

ETA: Quick question -- do you by any chance have any pics of her standing next to male figures, for reference? Smile


This is the only figure I have so far; the first in the collection, but GovernatorFan has put up some images of these figures next to a male figure for comparison in a review of the TB League figures.

Oh, my bad! I did see you say that, but then got distracted by the little world you were creating, and forgot that there wasn't anyone else in it yet, lol! XD

It happens.

Peaches

Peaches
Just dropping in for an example of clothing, my 2 "medium" size bodies, the S24A and S25B

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The left one is wearing the "SuperMCTOYS 1/6 Leather Moto Jacket Sets for Strong Female F074" and the right one has on the "Scarlet Witch dress" (squeezed on) with a Bratz hoodie and plastic shoes (makes her feet look small, might be made for barbie) without her feet Smile

The body colors really are barely different. We need more color!!! Smile Anyone know how to get these new models in browner colors please?

Stryker2011

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You’d have to color them yourself, Peaches. Nothing darker for the females yet. One body you might want to try for a darker skin tone is the Jiaou Doll “Wheaten” — assuming they didn’t change their formula the way TBL did.


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skywalkersaga

skywalkersaga
Thanks for the examples, Peaches. It really does help give me a better idea to see them dressed in clothing.

And I agree, there needs to be more colour options in the tbleague bodies in general. And not only that, more SHAPES, as well as more heights. Many of the tbleague bodies have ridiculously tiny hips....to the point it is actually unrealistic. I look at some of them (the muscular bodies, for instance) and they look like male bodies with boobs attached, to me. And the ones that do have slightly more curvaceous hips tend to have massive shoulders and giant busts, which kind of ruins the effect as well. I would give much to have body shape that is a more slender upper body but with curvy hips. And I'm not even talking, like 'plus size' here....just, you know, more realistic woman's body shape. ;p

Some of the jiaou body shapes are slightly better (in my eyes) when it comes to the hips area, but then their shoulders are still really awkward and broad looking, and they still have the issue of rather large busts, regardless. :/

(Whoops, sorry for the rant, just so frustrating.)


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OK, cool, thanks @Stryker2011, I don't think I'd have to have a seamless for the Zoe I want to make, maybe can find a good color with another company if Jiaou doesn't have anything dark enough. It's strange how darker skin is always difficult to find in the toy world Sad With resin dolls, it's because the darker pigment is difficult to work with as it tends to marble and can't be sanded. Though they're getting better with their formulas lately Smile

skywalkersaga

skywalkersaga
Peaches wrote:OK, cool, thanks @Stryker2011, I don't think I'd have to have a seamless for the Zoe I want to make, maybe can find a good color with another company if Jiaou doesn't have anything dark enough.  It's strange how darker skin is always difficult to find in the toy world Sad  With resin dolls, it's because the darker pigment is difficult to work with as it tends to marble and can't be sanded.  Though they're getting better with their formulas lately Smile

That's interesting, I had no idea!

And if it's for Zoe that you'd need the body for, perhaps since only her neck/chest area and forearms will be showing (assuming you'd be doing her 'main' outfit), you could just use an all-hard plastic jointed body and just paint the areas that will show? It's not ideal I know, but that's what I'm having to do for the time being with a couple of SW characters I'm working on...


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Stryker2011

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skywalkersaga wrote:
Peaches wrote:OK, cool, thanks @Stryker2011, I don't think I'd have to have a seamless for the Zoe I want to make, maybe can find a good color with another company if Jiaou doesn't have anything dark enough.  It's strange how darker skin is always difficult to find in the toy world Sad  With resin dolls, it's because the darker pigment is difficult to work with as it tends to marble and can't be sanded.  Though they're getting better with their formulas lately Smile

That's interesting, I had no idea!

And if it's for Zoe that you'd need the body for, perhaps since only her neck/chest area and forearms will be showing (assuming you'd be doing her 'main' outfit), you could just use an all-hard plastic jointed body and just paint the areas that will show? It's not ideal I know, but that's what I'm having to do for the time being with a couple of SW characters I'm working on...

I’ve done the same thing. Works fine.


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Peaches

Peaches
@skywalkersaga that's a great idea! A hard plastic doll is so inexpensive, it's not that scary to mess with Very Happy Thanks for opening my stupid mind up, LOL to you and @Stryker2011 Very Happy

skywalkersaga

skywalkersaga
Peaches wrote:@skywalkersaga that's a great idea!  A hard plastic doll is so inexpensive, it's not that scary to mess with Very Happy  Thanks for opening my stupid mind up, LOL to you and @Stryker2011 Very Happy


Aw, yeah, exactly! I love to be able to paint with acrylics, so to me if I can get away with using a surface that will 'take' that medium, then it's a win. I also personally don't view (quality) jointed bodies as being somehow 'lesser' than seamless ones....I just see them as both being useful for different needs and purposes. Smile

And you're welcome! Really looking forward to seeing your take on Zoe! ^.^


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skywalkersaga

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Sorry to be so annoying and persistent, lol, but... does anyone happen to have a pic of both the s17b AND the s25b (can include s27b as well), standing next to each other (preferably WITH headsculpts)?  

Even better if they are both standing next to a male figure (seamless or otherwise) for reference. Very Happy

I ask because, thus far, the s17b has been my favourite tbleague body in terms of overall shape. While it's not perfect, I really love the smaller upper body (slender shoulders and medium bust) on that one. But I've always felt it was probably still just a little too tall for certain characters that I'd need it for. I guess I'd just love to see one or both of the smaller bodies next to it just to get a better idea of how they all sort of compare. Smile


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GubernatorFan

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skywalkersaga wrote:... does anyone happen to have a pic of both the s17b AND the s25b (can include s27b as well), standing next to each other (preferably WITH headsculpts)?  Even better if they are both standing next to a male figure (seamless or otherwise) for reference. Very Happy

It took a little digging in the boxes, and luckily I still had the guys out from the comparison photo for the M36 bodies review from a few days ago. So here it is. All TBLeague, all except S24A suntan (note the difference between male and female suntan). I got confused by the numbering and thought I was including both of the petite body types but S24A and S25B are just the pale and suntan versions of the same body type. If you want to see them next to the more petite versions, go back to the first post in this thread.

Hope this helps.

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skywalkersaga

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OMG!!! That helps IMMENSELY, GubernatorFan!!! :O

Thank you so much! I now see that the s25b will likely be ok (height and stature-wise, at least) for what I need it for. cheers

Thanks again SO much, I truly had been agonizing over it.

And forgive my ignorance, but how tall (in total height, including headsculpt) is that seamless Arnie?


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skywalkersaga wrote:OMG!!! That helps IMMENSELY, GubernatorFan!!! :O Thank you so much! I now see that the s25b will likely be ok (height and stature-wise, at least) for what I need it for. cheers
Thanks again SO much, I truly had been agonizing over it. And forgive my ignorance, but how tall (in total height, including headsculpt) is that seamless Arnie?

Seamless Arnie (M34+knockoff head, I think) is about 12.1 inches (30.7 cm) tall. I say "about," because how you pose the legs makes a slight difference even when you're going for a basic "stand up straight" position. Same with how high up a head sits (all the more reason to use a loose inside neck connector or foamies -- then you can adjust as needed). And I meant to mention, since you noted wide shoulders on bodies, that you can adjust the shoulders to some degree. In the photo I tried to make sure the shoulders on the female figures stooped down.


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skywalkersaga

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GubernatorFan wrote: Seamless Arnie (M34+knockoff head, I think) is about 12.1 inches (3.7 cm) tall. I say "about," because how you pose the legs makes a slight difference even when you're going for a basic "stand up straight" position. Same with how high up a head sits (all the more reason to use a loose inside neck connector or foamies -- then you can adjust as needed). And I meant to mention, since you noted wide shoulders on bodies, that you can adjust the shoulders to some degree. In the photo I tried to make sure the shoulders on the female figures stooped down.

Thanks again for the detailed info!  I think the male figure I need to use alongside the s25b is about the same height as the M34 (maybe just a smidge taller, approx 31 cm), so that's great, as it looks from the pics to be a decent enough height difference (whereas, the s17b would have been WAY too tall!)

And oooh, good to know about the shoulders (they look alright the way you have them posed here!) Some jointed bodies are better than others when it comes to them being able to move their shoulders up and down, and I only have experience with a handful of those at most. Nice to know the  seamless bodies allows some adjustment there (especially since, for the outfit(s) I have in mind, the shoulders will be on full display).

ETA: fixed the tbleague number, whoops


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skywalkersaga wrote:Thanks again for the detailed info!  I think the male figure I need to use alongside the s25b is about the same height as the M34 (maybe just a smidge taller, approx 31 cm), so that's great, as it looks from the pics to be a decent enough height difference (whereas, the s17b would have been WAY too tall!)

Well, if give the figure footwear, it will stand taller, right about 31 cm or even just over that, depending on the sole or shoe type (some 1/6 shoes are solid, with a hole for a foot peg rather than accommodating a whole foot). Also, if you have the lower legs covered by either long pant legs or tall boots, M33 comes with hard plastic ankle extenders that allow it to reach about the same height (you can check out my review HERE). While I dislike TBL's choice to resort to extenders immensely (it almost ruins the proportions of the figure if you want to stay seamless), it can be very helpful with the right clothing.


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skywalkersaga wrote:
GubernatorFan wrote: Seamless Arnie (M34+knockoff head, I think) is about 12.1 inches (3.7 cm) tall. I say "about," because how you pose the legs makes a slight difference even when you're going for a basic "stand up straight" position. Same with how high up a head sits (all the more reason to use a loose inside neck connector or foamies -- then you can adjust as needed). And I meant to mention, since you noted wide shoulders on bodies, that you can adjust the shoulders to some degree. In the photo I tried to make sure the shoulders on the female figures stooped down.

And oooh, good to know about the shoulders (they look alright the way you have them posed here!) Some jointed bodies are better than others when it comes to them being able to move their shoulders up and down, and I only have experience with a handful of those at most. Nice to know the  seamless bodies allows some adjustment there (especially since, for the outfit(s) I have in mind, the shoulders will be on full display).

The shoulders thing makes a huge difference. I was turned off to TBLeague (when they were still Phicen) for a long time because the shoulders looked so wide in all of the product shots. It wasn't until a friend had one in hand did I realize how dramatically the shoulder articulation changed the entire look of the figure.


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skywalkersaga

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GubernatorFan wrote:While I dislike TBL's choice to resort to extenders immensely (it almost ruins the proportions of the figure if you want to stay seamless), it can be very helpful with the right clothing.

I understand. For my tallest figures (modified Sideshow figures), I'm currently using the COOmodel extra tall body, because while it's not perfect, at least the extra height is factored into it a bit more. While I do have a couple of ankle extenders that come in different lengths, I feel like I could probably only get away with using the shortest of them (which I think  is about 1 cm extension), or it would start to look ridiculous. (Especially for things like Hot Toys, which seem to be more precisely scaled to look 'just right' at their own particular height.)

But your pics are extremely helpful in depicting the height differences, which I was stressing over, and I feel much better now about the potential for these bodies for my project(s). Smile


ReverendSpooky wrote:The shoulders thing makes a huge difference. I was turned off to TBLeague (when they were still Phicen) for a long time because the shoulders looked so wide in all of the product shots. It wasn't until a friend had one in hand did I realize how dramatically the shoulder articulation changed the entire look of the figure

Wow, yes. This is me exactly. I have long felt that these seamless bodies were not very aesthetically pleasing (to *MY* particular aesthetic tastes, that is, lol), but it's heartening to know they can and do look better in person!


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Peaches

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awesome comparison @GubernatorFan, I'm wondering if you have the S26 S27 size to add to that comparison?  I'm thinking I need a petite character (Inara) but I have no idea if I can find a head for it?!

Actually, I just found some pictures of all the ladies together, and it's only Gina Torres who is taller than the rest.  The other 3 are petite or at least the same size.  Shoulder widths are very different though... I wonder if some of them are wearing extreme heels in the picture I found?!

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skywalkersaga

skywalkersaga
What a great group pic of them all, Peaches! Makes me ridiculously nostalgic for that show. :")

Re: their shoulders... yeah, definitely different. I think you could maybe (??) get away with using the s24 or s25 for River, but *only* if you managed to find a suitable headsculpt that was both the right size AND a colour match (unless you're willing to repaint/tint the headsculpt, that is). For River it could make sense to use a seamless body, given some of her outfits. With Kaylee, since she'll be wearing the jumpsuit type thing, you can use a jointed body no problem (or a partially seamless, perhaps). Since she has wider shoulders than the others, you could try one of the the PopToys bodies for her (either jointed or partially seamless versions -- partially seamless might have better colour match for her?). Those PopToys have somewhat broader shoulders but are still of shorter stature. But of course you'd still need to find the right headsculpt, etc.

For Inara, I am not sure...her skintone makes it tough to find a seamless that  is the right shape and shade. It would largely depend on what outfit you were choosing to do for her (and of course, which head you were using with it). There may be an official 1/6 version of Morena Baccarin as a different character out there that I'm unaware of, as I'm kind of out of the loop. :3

( Incidentally, if you ever figure out how to make an Inara, I'm all ears.... it would make me much more likely to get the Mal figure if I knew I could potentially give him an Inara, too, lol.  I'm an unabashed fangirl and love having figures of my fave ships, what I can say... ;p )


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Stryker2011

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Kumik did a Summer Glau (supposed to be) head sculpt from when she was on that short-lived Terminator TV series, haven’t seen it available for a couple years now. Other than customs (long unavailable), the other ladies have not been done. I mentioned my interest in a sculpt of Morena from Deadpool to a head sculptor I deal with, but it could be a really long time before that even becomes a possibility.


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Peaches

Peaches
Eeek, but I was hoping to put River on the 26/27 body (smaller busted one) and the other two girls on 24/25 and Zoe on the 17/18 whatever, taller body. River seems smaller and more fragile than everyone else, even if she's just as tall, LOL

I'm having a heck of a time finding good heads so I've been 3d'ing 'em and hope to have my nephew print them out for me. But I don't know how well PVC prints can be smoothed nor how well the paint would work, but I'm hoping the leveler people use for building models will do the job? I'll have to see how they turn out printed to see if it will work for me.

It would also free me up as to the skin colors hopefully. My vietnam tec head came in and I was so afraid the head was smaller than Mal's but turns out exactly the same size (Whew!) So I got the start of Jayne Very Happy

Stryker2011

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Here’s some info on the ladies that might help:
Gina Torres 5’10”
Morena Baccarin 5’ 7.5”
Jewel Staite & Summer Glau are both 5’6” (but they intentionally had Jewel gain a little more weight for her role).


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skywalkersaga

skywalkersaga
[quote="Peaches"]Eeek, but I was hoping to put River on the 26/27 body (smaller busted one) and the other two girls on 24/25 and Zoe on the 17/18 whatever, taller body.  River seems smaller and more fragile than everyone else, even if she's just as tall, LOL

I'm having a heck of a time finding good heads so I've been 3d'ing 'em and hope to have my nephew print them out for me.  But I don't know how well PVC prints can be smoothed nor how well the paint would work, but I'm hoping  the leveler people use for building models will do the job?  I'll have to see how they turn out printed to see if it will work for me.

It would also free me up as to the skin colors hopefully.  My vietnam tec head came in and I was so afraid the head was smaller than Mal's but turns out exactly the same size (Whew!)  So I got the start of Jayne Very Happy[/quote

Maybe you still can use that smallest body for River then! If you are making your own heads, that expands your options a bit! So do whatever works best. Very Happy

And I believe PVC can be sanded -- I haven't tried it myself, but I have read many tutorials on customizing smaller 6 inch action figures which are usually entirely PVC. Most of them recommend sanding (using various grades of sand paper). So I don't see why you couldn't sand off any rough edges or areas on your printed heads. : )


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Peaches

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Interesting trivia @stryker2011 Very Happy

@skywalkersaga cool, I found a blog where they apparently have a tiny, very fine sand blower to sand with. Interesting that that's now a hobbyist thing Very Happy I can probably also fill voids and make a mold of it and cast it in resin, if it turns out to look OK

brassco

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My take on this:


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Star Ace Toys 1/6th Scale Hermione Granger Collectible Figure
I replaced the body with S25B, and changed the HS to a teenager version.

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The HS is indeed loose, in need of modification. The shoes were changed too. This pair of shoes originally fits those of a normal size Phicen, but I can fit it with the S25's feet.

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A comparison to a full body Phicen figure.

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