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A CROWN IS BORN../ The Hobbit Dwarves etc.. WIP's & Finished Builds Part 2

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shovelchop81


shazzdan wrote:I was talking to some archery historians about fire/loose and they reckon that both are modern. One stems from the advent of firearms and other is a Hollywood affectation. According to them the command at the time was simply "shoot".

So more or less what I said then, although I believe once an instruction to start shooting was given whether it be a verbal command or more likely a visual one such as raising a flag/pennant or sounding a horn which would be much clearer, the archers then shot at will until a signal was given for them to stop, so their cavalry/infantry could move forward and to save arrows for direct line of sight engagement with the enemy as archers' volley fire is in reality more of a harassment to demoralise enemies and potentionly break formations than it is a lethal engagement like direct line of sight.

LOL, in their defense, at least at first "fire" was subtitle translation into modern English. I wonder what Tolkien wrote, if that detail goes back to him. At any rate, interesting. Dan's report makes sense. Beautiful work, Alex, I love the new helmet too. And great to see it is going to be more functional. That is the thing about your builds -- accurate, sensible, and functional all rolled into one. Glad we got to see more of your glorious completed Uruk-Hai head, too. And apparently you improve 1:1 objects too, with organic approaches that might not be to everyone's taste. Wink wrote:

Cheers GTF! Well it's a proven and reliable way to age metals, used by forgers and artists for centuries! All weapons apart from the pike are finished now, I have to steam the wood to make it perfectly straight which will be a new technique for me and I hope it works! I have an arrow straightening tool but that is for aluminium arrow shafts not wooden ones. Painted the eyes and teeth, hair next, also added more clear coat to all the armour etc.. and painted the claws white for now.

Stryker2011


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That little gif of the “old guy” is actually from a Foo Fighters video, Alex.

skywalkersaga


Shovelchop works quickly, and it's all coming together so well!!!

I keep thinking about the mystery material, and the only thing I can think of that seems similar is perhaps some kind of stiff felt ?

shovelchop81


Stryker2011 wrote:That little gif of the “old guy” is actually from a Foo Fighters video, Alex.

Oh right, I was thinking of the weekly reoccurring skit in different scenarios from "The Fast Show" called 'I'll get me coat' , oddly the guy in your GIF looks like the actor in the skits!



skywalkersaga wrote:Shovelchop works quickly, and it's all coming together so well!!!

I keep thinking about the mystery material, and the only thing I can think of that seems similar is perhaps some kind of stiff felt ?

I know it's used for making curtain pelmets and milliners use it too in the process of hat making.

Just some updates, trying to straighten the wood by soaking it then clamping it to a radiator, painted weapons, armour, nails, eyes, mouth etc..

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skywalkersaga

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Oh hmm, sounds like some kind of interlining?


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GubernatorFan

GubernatorFan
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Your head repaint update looks very expressive. Most eyes except done by a few exceptional professionals would probably look like that (or not nearly as good) in macro photos too. But I bet they really pop from a more natural distance. Besides, one would barely get a glimpse of them under that helmet in normal conditions. I think you did a great job with him.


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I second what GF says....sometimes eyes don't need to be extremely precise, especially from a distance. But if you are frustrated with using the paintbrush for eyes, you could try drawing them on with a sharp watercolour pencil, instead. It does require 'setting' them in some manner with a spray varnish (or carefully dotting on some kind of varnish with a brush),  but I've seen people use that method quite successfully.

Regardless, I think he's turned out amazing! I especially like how the skintone looks, it's quite striking.


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shovelchop81

shovelchop81
skywalkersaga wrote:Oh hmm, sounds like some kind of interlining?

If you mean a support in between layers of cloth material, then yes that's exactly how they use it, hat makers may even just paint it or dye it then seal it with a clear coat.

GubernatorFan wrote:Your head repaint update looks very expressive. Most eyes except done by a few exceptional professionals would probably look like that (or not nearly as good) in macro photos too. But I bet they really pop from a more natural distance. Besides, one would barely get a glimpse of them under that helmet in normal conditions. I think you did a great job with him.

Thank you so much for the moral support there GTF! And yes having a 64mgpl camera can have it's downsides! A bit like how you can now see everyones' acne and blackheads on on tv now a days! Shocked Laughing

skywalkersaga wrote:I second what GF says....sometimes eyes don't need to be extremely precise, especially from a distance. But if you are frustrated with using the paintbrush for eyes, you could try drawing them on with a sharp watercolour pencil, instead. It does require 'setting' them in some manner with a spray varnish (or carefully dotting on some kind of varnish with a brush),  but I've seen people use that method quite successfully.

Regardless, I think he's turned out amazing! I especially like how the skintone looks, it's quite striking.

Thanks for reminding me I have water colour pencils, used them on a Dwarf build recently but completely forgot about them! Embarassed Yes they do work well but you have to be so careful on what clear coat you use and how to apply it, I remember losing two days work of drawing repetitive complicated patterns for Ori then washing them all off by mistake using a water based clear coat.

Redid the eyes a bit nothing drastic just tried to sharpen the edges etc.. The main job today has been the hair, I hadn't realised how little black hair I had left and how short and curly it was (sounds dodgy but it isn't I swear! Laughing ) so I first had to straighten it with heated tongs and then integrate it with other colours I had more of, luckily Uruk-Hai hair is a mix of black and browns and quite dreadlock like, I was watching a bit of a 'Behind The Scenes LOTR' from the extended DVD box set yesterday and it just happened to focus on filming a daytime scene of Merry and Pippin being held as prisoners by the Uruk-Hai so I got a really good look at their hair in daylight on set. I padded the helmet to protect the paint on the face and keep it in place as it's quite a tight fit now, pretty much perfect with the hair, and removed a bit of card from the inside and eye slit. The pole has come out straighter for the pike. Need to finish building that and finish painting the claws, make belt for the axe and I'm pretty much done I think.

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GubernatorFan

GubernatorFan
Founding Father
Great job with the hair, head, and helmet. Very evocative of the on-screen look, and appear worn, soiled, and realistic. Looking forward to the pike.


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shovelchop81

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GubernatorFan wrote:Great job with the hair, head, and helmet. Very evocative of the on-screen look, and appear worn, soiled, and realistic. Looking forward to the pike.

Cheers GTF! I was quite pleased with it myself especially as it's made from scraps woven together! Luckily they didn't have long black straight shiny hair!
Built the pike now, just needs paint. I started with a metal 'skeleton' for support of the blade and had to glue the metal together which can be tricky so I scuffed it up with a file to increase the surface area and create a texture for the glues to grip to and cleaned any grease off with acetone. As super glue is a chemical reaction it has no effect on stainless steel so it won't bond it very well if at all; therefore I used my old trick of applying Bison Universal glue for stickiness then super glue as a hardener. Then cut the blade's actual shape with mounting collar out of fibre card, sawed a groove in the top of the wooden shaft to insert the tang of the metal support gluing it in place with super glue, which I continued to apply to the shaft using a plaster spatula all the way down to create a protective coating to the wood which is very light and fragile. I then glued on the fibre card 'blade' sections, securing the collar and stiffening the edges with super glue, then applied PVA all over the whole weapon and left to dry by the heater.
I painted smokey ink on all the claws/nails and head's hairline, then a coat of clear gloss to them and the eyes,mouth, nose etc.. Made a leather belt with a loop for the axe, wrapped the axe handle with real leather just for looks (not historically accurate) and the sword's grip with the same leather.

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GubernatorFan

GubernatorFan
Founding Father
Great job on the pike -- and thanks for the lesson on gluing metals. I'm sure you have done your homework, but I was surprised at how relatively light the color of the shaft. Beautiful additional work on the features. And those claws are really something. I can just imagine him walking into a nail salon for a mani-pedi and all the girls working there running out screaming. Smile


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I really dig the additional paint work on the head, and the hair work is excellent. The shield looks pretty cool with the hand emblazoned on it. This project is pretty awesome to follow.


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shovelchop81

shovelchop81
GubernatorFan wrote:Great job on the pike -- and thanks for the lesson on gluing metals. I'm sure you have done your homework, but I was surprised at how relatively light the color of the shaft. Beautiful additional work on the features. And those claws are really something. I can just imagine him walking into a nail salon for a mani-pedi and all the girls working there running out screaming. Smile

Cheers GTF! Laughing and I haven't painted the pike yet, that includes the shaft! Wink

Stryker2011 wrote:I really dig the additional paint work on the head, and the hair work is excellent. The shield looks pretty cool with the hand emblazoned on it. This project is pretty awesome to follow.

Thanks Stryker! I'll somehow reach my Lurtz figure and an Orc or two for comparison, probably need to do some mods on Lurtz anyway. Going to have to make a long claw grabber thing to get at some of my figures as the huge glass table is in the way so can't use a ladder! Rolling Eyes Laughing

skywalkersaga

skywalkersaga
Re: the interlining -- yes, that's exactly what I meant. Glad we have narrowed down what this material might be... Laughing

And this Uruk-hai is looking so good with his new Uruk-HAIR. Razz


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GubernatorFan

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skywalkersaga wrote:And this Uruk-hai is looking so good with his new Uruk-HAIR. Razz

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skywalkersaga wrote:Re: the interlining -- yes, that's exactly what I meant. Glad we have narrowed down what this material might be... Laughing

And this Uruk-hai is looking so good with his new Uruk-HAIR. Razz

lol! Very good one sir!

shovelchop81

shovelchop81
On a side note I hate Yodel!!! Courier company I've been arguing with all day for the second day in a row, needed to vent that! Mad pirat

Right back to the build, ALL FINISHED YAY! Very Happy

Lousy pics but thought I'd take these anyway as I'm crap at getting fancy photography done after taking hundreds of pics for the build alone Wink . The Pike is now painted which includes the shaft GTF. Narrowed the sword handle and fixed his thumb with wire and super glue as it finally fell off. Modded his mail and leather sleeves to get complete articulation at his elbows.
The keen eyed of you might spot Tod and Matt in the background on You Tube discussing a very fancy falchion Tod made for a customer.

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GubernatorFan

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You were falling backwards? I hope no damage to yourself or your creations! And given the complexity, eclectic nature and composition, and the sharp metal bits, that would be quite a reasonable concern. Smile He looks excellent, and so does his pike. The difficulty of photographing it (if one is to get all of him and the pike in) is understandable. I'm very pleased with your creation and grateful we got to witness it up close. Cheers!


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GubernatorFan wrote:You were falling backwards? I hope no damage to yourself or your creations! And given the complexity, eclectic nature and composition, and the sharp metal bits, that would be quite a reasonable concern. Smile He looks excellent, and so does his pike. The difficulty of photographing it (if one is to get all of him and the pike in) is understandable. I'm very pleased with your creation and grateful we got to witness it up close. Cheers!

Cheers! All good, I am just tired and have dodgy knees from bike accidents in the past so crouching to take a few pics just ended up with me falling back comfortably into the couch! Laughing Embarassed No harm done to myself or anything around me but thanks for the concern.
I've been thinking of making him a flaming torch like the ones they hold in that opening battle scene of Helm's Deep but I can't find my bag of orange/red/yellow resin flames I cast years ago for the Western Ghost Rider build on the skeleton horse I made that glow in the dark, must be somewhere, saw it recently.

GubernatorFan

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You will turn it up, I'm sure... and then turn it into something glorious. Smile


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He turned out great. This was a real treat to watch from start to finish. Amazing outcome.


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shovelchop81

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GubernatorFan wrote:You will turn it up, I'm sure... and then turn it into something glorious. Smile

Thank you very much GTF!

shovelchop81

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Stryker2011 wrote:He turned out great. This was a real treat to watch from start to finish. Amazing outcome.

Thank you Stryker! This was a fun build despite the mail adventure which is something that has just added to my building knowledge that doesn't happen very often now a days ( which is why I had a break for a couple of years) so that was refreshing. I'm looking forward to building the King Of The Dead soon as that will quite the scratch build.

skywalkersaga

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I agree, this is was an incredibly fun build to observe, and it turned out spectacularly!


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shovelchop81

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skywalkersaga wrote:I agree, this is was an incredibly fun build to observe, and it turned out spectacularly!

Thank you very much SWS!

Theboo-bomb

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Look at that absolute unite of an Uruk-Hai. Beautiful work and it was such an amazing trip to see it go from just a bunch of parts to such a detailed figure.


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shovelchop81

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Theboo-bomb wrote:Look at that absolute unite of an Uruk-Hai. Beautiful work and it was such an amazing trip to see it go from just a bunch of parts to such a detailed figure.

Thank you very much TBB!!

shovelchop81

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Starting the Berserker Uruk-Hai now, here's the Wiki blurb, not sure if I agree with some of it though:

History They were larger, even more fearsome versions of the Uruk-hai, standing about six-and-a-half feet tall and weighing an estimated three hundred pounds. Before they were sent into battle, it is said that the bowl of their small, tight-fitting helmet was filled with the blood of their enemy, and then pushed onto their heads. The intoxicating smell awakened a blood-lust that drove them to a battle-frenzy and made them immune to pain. Berserkers had no regard for personal safety, wore no armor except their helmets, and were expected to fight to the death. Their sole object was to establish a bridgehead. One Berserker was given the task to set off the explosive mines planted by the Uruk-hai. wrote:

They don't seem bigger to me, more athletic probably. To me they are a cross between:

"The Forlorn Hope"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forlorn_hope

and "The Landsknecht"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landsknecht

Especially with the very long and large two handed swords they use.

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I'll be going for the look of the 'Prime 1' statue.
Done a bit of work already, sawed off more parts from that WOW Orc Shaman figure to use as hands, feet and the mouth, the big toes will be cut off the feet, no claws this time as that was just a bit of artistic license by me on the last one to add 'more monster' to the figure encased in armour. The head I'm using is a resin recast of HT's Jake Sully from 'Avatar', the body is the Anubis seamless body from Phicen(?), the helmet parts are twofold, one is a helmet from Action Man's 1990's DR. X chopper bike rider version (horns cut off for another build ages ago), the second is the liner from the helmet I used to make the Shock Trooper's helmet in the last build. Used black milliput to fill in holes and gaps on both, also attached the mouth to the face (sawed the original one off) and used milliput to sculpt them together, I think it's slightly off centre so going to need to fix that. Also had some milliput mix leftover so fixed the neck post just in case even though I'll probably saw it off completely.

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skywalkersaga

skywalkersaga
Great start already!


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