Clothing TBLeague / Phicen Seamless Bodies updated: Part XXX, December 2022

BAMComix wrote:Great pics!

Thank you very much, glad you liked them.

Stryker2011 wrote:The samurai are cool, but I like your fantasy figures the best. Surprised how well the Hasbro Indy looks considering the clothes were made at low cost.

Thank you, I'm flattered you enjoyed those in particular -- since some remedial thought went into putting them together (besides let's stuff a TBLeague body into this), even if the vast majority of pieces came from one or more existing sets. I, too, was pleasantly surprised by Hasbro Indy. If it weren't for those very tight pants, I'd consider him a very viable way to kitbash an Indy.

Hey Gub, or anyone that might've tried it, do you know if the uniforms from recent E&S (Easy&Simple) figures fit a M33 body? I'm concerned about the waist size on the pants.

FreakinLobster wrote:Hey Gub, or anyone that might've tried it, do you know if the uniforms from recent E&S (Easy&Simple) figures fit a M33 body? I'm concerned about the waist size on the pants.

I hope someone could shed more light on this, but there is a reason I have not bought E&S pants in a couple of years: they are usually too tight for these bodies. That said, looking at the uniform pants for sale on MonkeyDepot, they look as if they are a bit on the wider side. They might just fit M33 (no promises), but nothing bulkier; probably would fit M31 and M32. While I don't have the uniform E&S pants handy to check, a couple of posts have featured E&S jeans. These fit the M33, but with difficulty, and at least sometimes are likely to come undone at the fly rather easily if you try to have the figure sitting or squatting. Here are the links to the relevant posts above.

https://onesixthfigures.forumotion.com/t1403p45-clothing-tbleague-phicen-seamless-bodies-updated-part-xxviii-may-2022#26417

https://onesixthfigures.forumotion.com/t1403p90-clothing-tbleague-phicen-seamless-bodies-updated-part-xxviii-may-2022

Thank you once again for all the time and effort you put into your presentation/informative posts and tutorials to support others in their purchase and crafting decisions!! I am always in awe that you find enough time to do all this along with your hilariously entertaining stories.

I totally envy your girls‘ shoes. They have some pretty desirable pairs…

Illusion wrote:Thank you once again for all the time and effort you put into your presentation/informative posts and tutorials to support others in their purchase and crafting decisions!! I am always in awe that you find  enough time to do all this along with your hilariously entertaining stories.

I totally envy your girls‘ shoes. They have some pretty desirable pairs…

Thank you very much, I'm glad you liked them and appreciate the kind words. As for the shoes, I can only take credit for taking a chance on Nouveau Toys. The difficulties of fitting many sixth-scale shoes on TBLeague feet had long discouraged me, but these usually succeed, while looking pretty good and, moreover, offering some variety to the usual simple high heel or fantasy combat high heel boot. If you are looking for more shoes, and if shipping is not bloody murder, give them a try. Might also be a good idea to have some spare pairs of feet that would work with both shoes and your figures' anklepegs. We cracked the mystery of the TBLeague female feet in the catalog thread (there are three types altogether).

omg.... just checked Nouveau Toys on ebay.... what a choice... some really nice dresses too...
they are just about to succeed in overriding my decision, not to buy from the US anymore (just due to postage cost and customs issues)

It's expensive, for sure, but their items are good quality and worth it. I have a pair of flat shoes from them, as well as some boots. And hope to buy more once I can afford it. ;p

Illusion wrote:  omg.... just checked Nouveau Toys on ebay.... what a choice... some really nice dresses too...
they are just about to succeed in overriding my decision, not to buy from the US anymore (just due to postage cost and customs issues)

skywalkersaga wrote:It's expensive, for sure, but their items are good quality and worth it. I have a pair of flat shoes from them, as well as some boots. And hope to buy more once I can afford it. ;p

Agreed, and like Sky says, their items are usually not on the more affordable side. On the other hand, they do try to have a personal touch, and if you are going to buy say 3 or 4 or more sets (I mean, making it worth their while since there would be multiple items), I'm sure they would work with you to make the experience as painless as possible. They have a non-eBay store too, so maybe you can reach out to them there. It can't hurt to inquire. By the way, more of their clothes and shoes were featured in earlier installments in this thread.

GubernatorFan wrote:

FreakinLobster wrote:Hey Gub, or anyone that might've tried it, do you know if the uniforms from recent E&S (Easy&Simple) figures fit a M33 body? I'm concerned about the waist size on the pants.

I hope someone could shed more light on this, but there is a reason I have not bought E&S pants in a couple of years: they are usually too tight for these bodies. That said, looking at the uniform pants for sale on MonkeyDepot, they look as if they are a bit on the wider side. They might just fit M33 (no promises), but nothing bulkier; probably would fit M31 and M32. While I don't have the uniform E&S pants handy to check, a couple of posts have featured E&S jeans. These fit the M33, but with difficulty, and at least sometimes are likely to come undone at the fly rather easily if you try to have the figure sitting or squatting. Here are the links to the relevant posts above.

https://onesixthfigures.forumotion.com/t1403p45-clothing-tbleague-phicen-seamless-bodies-updated-part-xxviii-may-2022#26417

https://onesixthfigures.forumotion.com/t1403p90-clothing-tbleague-phicen-seamless-bodies-updated-part-xxviii-may-2022

Thanks for the reply. I wanna get a boxed E&S figure and swap bodies. I'm just too spoiled with all the articulation (specially for keeping poses) and weight of a TBL.

FreakinLobster wrote:
Thanks for the reply. I wanna get a boxed E&S figure and swap bodies. I'm just too spoiled with all the articulation (specially for keeping poses) and weight of a TBL.

Then get one that wears the jeans from the examples I gave you. Those fit the M33 body, even if it is a tight fit. Do keep an eye on the top, too, you probably don't want anything with ultra tight sleeves.

I have the DAMTOYS lance corporal Scott , Saw Gunner Crews, and the re2 Leon. And I wanted to switch them to a phicen body. How well do the m32, m33, and m34 fit DAMTOYS clothes?

Tbonez wrote:I have the DAMTOYS lance corporal Scott , Saw Gunner Crews, and the re2 Leon. And I wanted to switch them to a phicen body. How well do the m32, m33, and m34 fit DAMTOYS clothes?

Go through the posts in this thread and check for DAM products. M34 would be a challenge, as DAM does not, I think, make a body this muscular, and does not usually have very loose clothes. M32 and M33 would be able to fit a few. Pants are going to be the most likely to be overly tight or not close securely enough.

Part XXIX: Various

First, the Barbie Dr Jane Goodall clothing by Mattel, fitted onto the recently released S49A body. The clothing fits reasonably well, without causing much trouble. It just isn't particularly impressive in its tailoring or the quality of the recycled cloth material.  The boots are, of course, not from the Barbie line (their source is lost to the sands of time, unless someone else can identify them).







Next we have all the clothing and accessories from the Xena Warrior Princess Roman Xena ("When in Rome") set by Toy Biz transferred to the S47B body. The fit is great (even for the slightly smaller but somewhat stretchy cloth footwear) and nothing impedes the articulation. This one might transfer more or less as is into my Lady of the Lake series. I have not completely given up on repainting the Xena head, although it is  a little bit on the large side for this scale.









Keeping to reds, I reassembled the entire John Steele RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) set by Dragon on an M31 body (the pants and sleeves were too tight for anything bulkier). Apart from the sleeves being a little short (so are the pant legs, but they are hidden under the boots), it works pretty well. Poseability is made a little difficult by the tightness of the fit.





A very basic (but almost fully articulated!) horse from Click N' Play World Police makes do for the next shot (horse people, is there hope for this horse, if given a proper repaint and rehairing?).



I find the gun on a string amusing, but that's how it was in the original set.



Keeping with law enforcement, I also transferred much of The Walking Dead Rick Grimes (Season 1) set by ThreeZero to an M33 body. It fit surprisingly well. I had not bothered to pick up the watch,  revolver or boots, but replaced them with very similar looking pieces from my collection. The boots I used are Triad Toys ankle-high boots, whereas the original set had taller western style boots.











Mountie John Steel and Deputy Rick Grimes quickly bonded over their efforts to keep the peace...







This GDS dress from eBay seller xiangwyan_0 could potentially fit even larger bodies, but it works fine on the S47A.



The long-sleeved top and ripped jeans from the Seal Team Navy Special Forces (M-029) set by Mini Times were a tight fit on an M33, but still worked reasonably well.





These too also got friendly, real fast...





Of course I couldn't resist picking up a bunch of parts from the Hoth Snow Speeder Pilot Luke Skywalker by Hot Toys. In the photo below, the figure on the right is not on a seamless body, but the figure on the left uses an S47B, fitting very well (I forgot to attach the gloves and gauntlets but they will work with some adjustment).







I also reconstituted most of a Transport Trooper set by Hot Toys on an M33 body, which was a bit of a surprise, as I expected the armor to be too tight. As it is, the only parts of the armor that are not quite where they should be, are the vambraces, which are in fact supposed to be upper arm armor but I don't think I can safely force them over the M33 biceps/triceps. Articulation remains remarkably unimpeded.









As always, what do you think? Comments and questions welcome.

Continued with Part XXX HERE.

With all these loose Star Wats parts, doesn’t it work out as more expensive than just buying the whole figure?

Some nice acquisitions anyway.

I'm glad to see the "Goodall" costume. I was tempted by the figure, but I wondered if the costume was a bit too simplistic.

The Xena Roman Princess more than makes up for the shortcomings in the "Goodall" set as far as gorgeousness combined with adequate detail goes! The Xena plus TBLeague combo looks fantastic!

Thanks for taking the time to put these together and photograph them. As always, it's very helpful and informative.

I had been eyeing the snowspeeder outfits too recently, but Stryker is right that loose HT Star Wars parts tend to be super expensive. Sometimes you can find a good deal (like on Toy Anxiety), but most of the time it really is cheaper to just buy the figure. :/

Stryker2011 wrote:With all these loose Star Wats parts, doesn’t it work out as more expensive than just buying the whole figure?

Some nice acquisitions anyway.

Thank you very much, I'm glad you liked them. And yes, I often wonder if it is worth it buying so many loose parts. I typically skip the bodies, bases, boxes, padding, and accessories I don't plan to use. I actually appreciate not having a big box I would have trouble letting go of to worry about. Haven't done my calculations carefully and consistently, but even with the fuller "sets" that I get, the price is likely a little lower. But I often get only a few specific parts. While I did get enough parted out parts to make two Snow Speeder pilots (one of them is going to become a regular X-Wing Pilot), I purchased additional gloved hands and vambraces and boots (apart from the ones for the two pilots) to outfit a few Hoth Rebel Troopers. Remember Luke on the Taun Taun (which will be featured again soon in an update)? He was among those wearing these. If I had no interest in making the pilots, the savings would have been quite substantial.

davidd wrote:I'm glad to see the "Goodall" costume. I was tempted by the figure, but I wondered if the costume was a bit too simplistic.

The Xena Roman Princess more than makes up for the shortcomings in the "Goodall" set as far as gorgeousness combined with adequate detail goes! The Xena plus TBLeague combo looks fantastic!

Honestly, Goodall's is a very simplistic costume indeed. The top does not look very flattering on the figure, and I resorted to a little bit of temporary tape tucking it in from the back. I was excited about the chimp with articulated arms. Which is ok for what it is. But yes, I agree, the Xena costume worked out beautifully.

skywalkersaga wrote:Thanks for taking the time to put these together and photograph them. As always, it's very helpful and informative.  

I had been eyeing the snowspeeder outfits too recently, but Stryker is right that loose HT Star Wars parts tend to be super expensive. Sometimes you can find a good deal (like on Toy Anxiety), but most of the time it really is cheaper to just buy the figure. :/

You are very welcome, I'm glad you found them helpful. On the Star Wars part, see what I wrote to Mark above. In principle I agree completely, but I'm relieved not dealing with boxes, and I rarely go for the (virtually) complete outfit anyway (though I did this time). Even for X-Wing pilots, you can skip the gloves, gauntlets, boots, and outer jacket. I wanted both types of pilots, plus extra gloves, gauntlets, and boots for Rebel Hoth troopers, so I splurged this time around. Another thing with getting the actual set is that if I did, I might feel less ready to mess with it.

Every single one of them looks really good!! I especially love the Snow Speeder Pilot outfits.

I was considering getting two Toybiz Xenas: one for the warrior clothes, and another for the improved head sculpt. But if you say the head is too big... that would be a lot of money, since shipping from the US is so expensive.
Would you maybe pretty please send me a photo of the Xena head on a TBL body?  

Very nice Ian!

GubernatorFan wrote:

skywalkersaga wrote:Thanks for taking the time to put these together and photograph them. As always, it's very helpful and informative.  

I had been eyeing the snowspeeder outfits too recently, but Stryker is right that loose HT Star Wars parts tend to be super expensive. Sometimes you can find a good deal (like on Toy Anxiety), but most of the time it really is cheaper to just buy the figure. :/

You are very welcome, I'm glad you found them helpful. On the Star Wars part, see what I wrote to Mark above. In principle I agree completely, but I'm relieved not dealing with boxes, and I rarely go for the (virtually) complete outfit anyway (though I did this time). Even for X-Wing pilots, you can skip the gloves, gauntlets, boots, and outer jacket. I wanted both types of pilots, plus extra gloves, gauntlets, and boots for Rebel Hoth troopers, so I splurged this time around. Another thing with getting the actual set is that if I did, I might feel less ready to mess with it.

I get what you mean about not wanting to mess with something, and I feel that way if it's a figure I really, really wanted. But if I just needed a variety of parts from an HT figure, I'd probably purchase the full figure and then sell the rest of the pieces I didn't want on ebay. These days, I'd rather be the scalper than the scalpee!

I say this in part due to having run into problems where I was able to pick up parted out pieces but then ended up missing a few key parts and was never able to put the figure together in the end. This happened with with RotJ Deluxe Luke, and I eventually gave up on trying to kitbash that one after missing out on the boots (which are just too specific to be replaced by generic ones, from my perspective).

That said, I'll probably still try to track down the snowspeeder suit at some point, if it's still available once I can afford it.

Diana wrote:Every single one of them looks really good!! I especially love the Snow Speeder Pilot outfits.

I was considering getting two Toybiz Xenas: one for the warrior clothes, and another for the improved head sculpt. But if you say the head is too big... that would be a lot of money, since shipping from the US is so expensive.
Would you maybe pretty please send me a photo of the Xena head on a TBL body?  

Thank you very much, I'm glad you liked them.

Re Xena head. I will try to post a picture with the original Toy Biz head on the same (S47B) TBLeague body later today. It is a nice head, but definitely needs repainting for realism.

Another route to take would be to pick up that KT011 head that is supposed to be of Lucy Lawless and modify it by repainting (or more, depending on which option you got and how suitable the hair). I am considering that as a back up option if my repaint of the Toy Biz head fails.

BAMComix wrote:Very nice Ian!

Thank you very much, I'm delighted you like them.

skywalkersaga wrote:
I get what you mean about not wanting to mess with something, and I feel that way if it's a figure I really, really wanted. But if I just needed a variety of parts from an HT figure, I'd probably purchase the full figure and then sell the rest of the pieces I didn't want on ebay. These days, I'd rather be the scalper than the scalpee!

I say this in part due to having run into problems where I was able to pick up parted out pieces but then ended up missing a few key parts and was never able to put the figure together in the end. This happened with with RotJ Deluxe Luke, and I eventually gave up on trying to kitbash that one after missing out on the boots (which are just too specific to be replaced by generic ones, from my perspective).

That said, I'll probably still try to track down the snowspeeder suit at some point, if it's still available once  I can afford it.

Oh yes, I had not considered that. If you are selling off the extra parts, this definitely makes sense. Needing one more piece (and not finding it) can be very frustrating indeed. Did you ever complete this kitbash or did you get the full figure? As for the snowspeeder suit (actually two pieces, the jumpsuit proper, and the (optional) padded jacket that goes on top), I would keep checking Monkey Depot and Toy Anxiety, or though it might be pricier, Black Ops Toys.

GubernatorFan wrote:Re Xena head. I will try to post a picture with the original Toy Biz head on the same (S47B) TBLeague body later today. It is a nice head, but definitely needs repainting for realism.

Another route to take would be to pick up that KT011 head that is supposed to be of Lucy Lawless and modify it by repainting (or more, depending on which option you got and how suitable the hair). I am considering that as a back up option if my repaint of the Toy Biz head fails.

Don't you mean the KT010? At least I prefer that over the 11, which looks too soft to me. I don't think either of them look much like her, but it is a good backup plan. I have more hopes for the Xena head. Maybe I'll find one seller for both the costume and the head and can combine shipping. That would lessen the blow.

Diana wrote:Don't you mean the KT010? At least I prefer that over the 11, which looks too soft to me. I don't think either of them look much like her, but it is a good backup plan. I have more hopes for the Xena head. Maybe I'll find one seller for both the costume and the head and can combine shipping. That would lessen the blow.

I confess I have somewhat lost track of the head variants, but it looks like both KT010 and KT011 are meant to depict the same features, with different hair. I can't locate my KT010 for comparison, but here is a KT011A I recently purchased (and therefore have handy). I don't know about the comparative sharpness of the sculpt, but it looks a whole lot better than the pictures for the listing on eBay.



And here is the original Xena head on several bodies. Keep in mind that, while the opening at the bottom of the head does clamp down (barely) on the TBLeague neck pegs, the head is fairly loose on it and the rubbery flesh pushes it up, resulting in the giraffe neck effect. For it to sit properly, some modification would be required. It looks best on the Knight of Fire body, because that has, for some reason, the shortest neck; but some of the others might look better if the head is modified to sit lower on the neck (by widening the neck opening or whatever).



I hope this helps.

That is actually the KT010 according to my google search results. So we're talking about the same one.

The head is indeed a little large, but I think it's acceptable for most of your examples. Thank you very much for the photos!

To me the KT010 and KT011 do not look like the same headsculpt. I think one is supposed to be 'Kristen Stewart' and the other is suppose to look like.... not sure... Monica Bellucci? ;p

Diana wrote:That is actually the KT010 according to my google search results. So we're talking about the same one.

The head is indeed a little large, but I think it's acceptable for most of your examples. Thank you very much for the photos!

Perhaps, like I said, I've lost track. The eBay listing said KT011 -- unless I somehow grabbed a head other than the one that arrived most recently. Which is also possible.

The Toy Biz head would definitely look better when properly adjusted for the neck so it does not sit too high. I would probably try to increase the hole, so that (for most bodies) the top part of the neck could go inside it. The older taller and wider-shouldered bodies are probably preferable for use with it.

skywalkersaga wrote:To me the KT010 and KT011 do not look like the same headsculpt. I think one is supposed to be 'Kristen Stewart' and the other is suppose to look like.... not sure... Monica Bellucci? ;p

Well we have always said it is not a very good likeness. I'm pretty sure at least one of these has been marketed as Lucy Lawless, but whether that was put out by Kimi Toys or decided by someone and (most) everyone went with it, I don't know.

It’s tragic to me that we don’t actually have a decent sculpt of Monica Belluci…

Stryker2011 wrote:It’s tragic to me that we don’t actually have a decent sculpt of Monica Belluci…

Yes, I remember the point about the Monica Belluci sculpt not actually looking like Monica Belluci.

Part XXX: Various (including Wolf Pack, PamSDminiCostuming, Redman, Super Duck, Mattel, Kumik, DAM)

Today's theme, if there is one, is that stretch is your friend, and it comes in various shapes.

First some casually sporty guys (all M33), portrayed indulging in Mark's favorite sport, Football (or as it is called in these parts, Soccer).





Luke Evans is wearing a red-striped long-sleeved top from his own DAM set (Grozny Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Spetsnaz MVD OSN Vityaz, DAM 78090), a pair of DAM Asics shoes, and the patterned red shorts from Redman Toys' Kerr set (RM021).

Viggo Mortensen (ACI's Aragorn) is wearing a third party Adidas t-shirt (from eBay), red shorts from Wolf Pack HQ (which specializes in clothing and for Action Man and G.I.Joe figures), and third-party Adidas shoes (from eBay).



Jared Padalecki is wearing a third party grey t-shirt (from eBay), blue shorts from Wolf Pack HQ, and DAM shoes.

Viggo Mortensen (custom head, a twin for storyline purposes) is wearing a third party black Adidas t-shirt (from eBay), black and red shorts from Mattel's Max Steel Kick-Boxing set, and Kumik soft plastic shoes that can slip onto even TBLeague feet.



"Coach" is wearing a white Adventurers Track Suit (Falcon Style) from Wolf Pack HQ (in the other photos, taken earlier, I had the top on backwards, but the opening is meant go on the back side) and Kumik soft plastic shoes. A pain to dress up but turned out decent.



The ladies ended up in some sort of gathering (a low-key bachelorette event?) on the beach, since I didn't have any new shoes to show for them, and most of them chose to clothe themselves by the same designer (who, admittedly, had a significant sale on her designs).









S49A is wearing a Red One lace dress by PamSDminiCostuming (on Etsy); she is the only one with a bra and panties, which is a testimony as to the very good job the lace dresses do in obscuring what lies beneath;

S17B is wearing a Peachy Keen lace dress by the same designer.



Angelina Jolie (S19B) is wearing a Creamcicle lace dress by PamSDminiCostuming (on Etsy);


Gal Gadot (S23B) is wearing a When in Rome lace dress by the same designer; this particular outfit was already featured in Part XXVIII.



Valentine (S47B) is wearing a Super Duck long white dress; very difficult to zip up (under the left armpit).

S21B is wearing a Blue by You lace dress by PamSDminiCostuming (on Etsy).



The dudes were there to delight the ladies, but also to remind you that while many sixth-scale pants and shorts would be too tight to fit (or fit securely) on a seamless TBLeague body, elastic waistbands make all the difference and provide affordable options -- this is the case with the Wolf Pack HQ shorts above (on ACI Viggo and on Jared) and Mattel's Max Steel shorts (on the custom Viggo). Here,

Tim Robbins is wearing blue-white-and-black Mattel shorts from the Max Steel Wave flier set;

Ed Skrein is wearing red Mattel shorts from the Max Steel Samurai Warrior set.

I hope this was useful. As always, what do you think?