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83NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 - Page 3 Empty Re: NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 on Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:38 pm

GeeWillikers

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Thrilling Finale:

The S42 compared with S18 (same body as S01/02 but with detachable feet)
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The18 looks positively freakish next to the 42. Look at those arms! In fact, the whole upper torso looks stretched.

The 42 compared to the S16:
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The 42 compared to the S32:
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So, the S18 and the s32 are the bodies that nearest approach the 42 in terms of height.

84NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 - Page 3 Empty Re: NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 on Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:43 pm

GeeWillikers

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csyeung wrote:Thanks a lot for these excellent comparisons Geewillikers! They are super informative and helpful! I do wish they made smaller/regular sized breast versions. I am not confident to do breast reduction surgery on these. I didn't get my 1/6 surgeon's certificate!

Your best bet for a smaller-busted figure is the S16-17. Still not exactly flat-chested, but the smallest TBL offer at the moment.

85NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 - Page 3 Empty Re: NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 on Wed Nov 25, 2020 2:52 pm

csyeung

csyeung
GeeWillikers wrote:
csyeung wrote:Thanks a lot for these excellent comparisons Geewillikers! They are super informative and helpful! I do wish they made smaller/regular sized breast versions. I am not confident to do breast reduction surgery on these. I didn't get my 1/6 surgeon's certificate!

Your best bet for a smaller-busted figure is the S16-17. Still not exactly flat-chested, but the smallest TBL offer at the moment.

I agree, I think I have one 16 and one 17 and the rest have been 23's for my more superhero types. I may get a few more 17s and maybe a 25 for future figures.

86NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 - Page 3 Empty Re: NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 on Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:00 pm

MeMyself&I

MeMyself&I
GeeWillikers wrote:
csyeung wrote:Thanks a lot for these excellent comparisons Geewillikers! They are super informative and helpful! I do wish they made smaller/regular sized breast versions. I am not confident to do breast reduction surgery on these. I didn't get my 1/6 surgeon's certificate!

Your best bet for a smaller-busted figure is the S16-17. Still not exactly flat-chested, but the smallest TBL offer at the moment.

Honestly one of the best bodies they make IMO. The fact though that the 42 towers over it still is nothing short of impressive.

Excellent photos GeeWillikers! Very informative!

87NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 - Page 3 Empty Re: NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 on Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:33 pm

skywalkersaga

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csyeung wrote:Thanks a lot for these excellent comparisons Geewillikers! They are super informative and helpful! I do wish they made smaller/regular sized breast versions. I am not confident to do breast reduction surgery on these. I didn't get my 1/6 surgeon's certificate!

I have a bust reduction method, however it is only useful if you plan to keep your figures permanently clothed (or at least keep the bust and upper back area completely covered). Which may not be helpful for some, but if you are making a specific character and intending to leave her that way, it's doable. Granted, I've only tried it on the smaller bodies (s25b and s27b), but it did help make the busts on those look a bit more natural.

The method simply involves using an exacto knife to cut a 'slice' out of the bottom of each breast (leaving the rest intact), and then binding the now 'reduced' area with some plastic wrap. Ideally one would use glue to keep it in place, but I have yet to find a glue that works.


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88NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 - Page 3 Empty Re: NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 on Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:36 pm

csyeung

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skywalkersaga wrote:
I have a bust reduction method, however it is only useful if you plan to keep your figures permanently clothed (or at least keep the bust and upper back area completely covered). Which may not be helpful for some, but if you are making a specific character and intending to leave her that way, it's doable. Granted, I've only tried it on the smaller bodies (s25b and s27b), but it did help make the busts on those look a bit more natural.

The method simply involves using an exacto knife to cut a 'slice' out of the bottom of each breast (leaving the rest intact), and then binding the now 'reduced' area with some plastic wrap. Ideally one would use glue to keep it in place, but I have yet to find a glue that works.

Interesting method! I did repair a small tear once with gorilla glue and seemed to be ok, but that was a small tear. May be harder when it's to hold a piece that is always trying to spring back.

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Moonbase Alpha Male

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skywalkersaga wrote:

The method simply involves using an exacto knife to cut a 'slice' out of the bottom of each breast (leaving the rest intact), and then binding the now 'reduced' area with some plastic wrap. Ideally one would use glue to keep it in place, but I have yet to find a glue that works.

I am wondering if this is something for which Sugru might be well suited https://www.amazon.com/Sugru-Mouldable-Glue-Original-Formula/dp/B01BFE0KNQ/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=sugru&qid=1606336935&sr=8-4


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90NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 - Page 3 Empty Re: NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 on Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:17 pm

skywalkersaga

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csyeung -- lol, indeed, all the glues I had tried could not withstand the spring of the silicone. ;p

MAM - I haven't tried that one yet, will keep it in mind! : )


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91NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 - Page 3 Empty Re: NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 on Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:19 pm

GeeWillikers

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MeMyself&I wrote:Excellent photos GeeWillikers! Very informative!

I just can't get over how odd the S18 (basically their oldest 'modern' steel model given a tweak) now looks when directly compared to the 42, like an alien Grey reflected in a funhouse mirror. I've never been crazy about that short neck, off-kilter navel and too-prominent groin area, but it's sobering to now realise just how distorted that torso actually is after all these years. The derriere is just about it's best feature. That design needs a total overhaul once TBL are done with their busty/curvy obsession (which may well be never).

On the other hand the 32, which I wasn't crazy about from the start and kind of forgot about, is actually not that badly-designed now I've seen it directly compared with the rest. Still not in love with those stubby arms and fat wrists, but the rest of it is quite nice actually.

92NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 - Page 3 Empty Re: NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 on Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:52 pm

GubernatorFan

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GeeWillikers wrote:I just can't get over how odd the S18 (basically their oldest 'modern' steel model given a tweak) now looks when directly compared to the 42, like an alien Grey reflected in a funhouse mirror. I've never been crazy about that short neck, off-kilter navel and too-prominent groin area, but it's sobering to now realise just how distorted that torso actually is after all these years. The derriere is just about it's best feature. That design needs a total overhaul once TBL are done with their busty/curvy obsession (which may well be never).

Interesting, there seems to be a bit of a pattern -- or at the very least they have done this elsewhere, too. I'm thinking about their M31 body, which is in many ways a darker-skinned version of M30, slightly un-muscled but basically stretched out to make it taller and slimmer. The result is neither attractive nor realistic (which is what they claimed they were going for), although, in a strange parallel to what you just described, its "derriere is just about its best feature." Smile Of course there are other reasons to dislike M31 (others have said I loathe it with a passion which is a slight exaggeration), like the spaghetti elbow (at least one of them), the anatomical incompleteness, and above everything else the faulty (especially left) wrist peg clamp (at least in my experience, this may have been corrected in later batches). Its one and only redeeming feature in my book is that it is their easiest male body to clothe (and as I was just clothing it the other day, the damned wrist peg came out with a hand and was a hellish pain to reattach).

Here was my review: http://www.mwctoys.com/REVIEW-062916b.htm


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93NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 - Page 3 Empty Re: NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 on Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:51 pm

gooboo


Most people reading this thread have probably seen my other thread about converting seamless feet figures into regular figures, but in case not here's a link showing the operation I did on my s43.

https://onesixthfigures.forumotion.com/t3410-coverting-newer-phicen-seamless-feet-figures-into-regular-figures

This is what she looked like afterward. After giving this gal some real feet, I really really like this figure. She's got the fuller, more natural body of an s28/s29 but more normal looking shoulders. It seems Phicen has "finally" figured out how to not give their figures unusually broad shoulders. If she was a little smaller, and a little less busty, she'd be just about perfect to me. Thinking about getting myself an s42 now, and doing the same operation on her.

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94NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 - Page 3 Empty Re: NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 on Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:02 pm

Moonbase Alpha Male

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skywalkersaga wrote:csyeung -- lol, indeed, all the glues I had tried could not withstand the spring of the silicone. ;p

MAM - I haven't tried that one yet, will keep it in mind! : )

Sugru isn't a glue, it's a silicone putty with adhesive strength that is malleable initially and then cures into a still somewhat flexible silicone/rubber - hence the reason I thought it could be perfect for this task.  If it works, it's unique. I sound like I'm doing a commercial but I haven't actuallly tried it yet.  I bought a cheap set of 3 minitubes but I don't know where I put them -- which isn't good, because the word appears to be that Sugru gets old even in the tubes so you don't want to buy last year's supply on clearance. Somebody please take one for the team and report back...


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csyeung

csyeung
NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 - Page 3 Gooboo10

Excellent work Doctor!

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csyeung

csyeung
Moonbase Alpha Male wrote:

Sugru isn't a glue, it's a silicone putty with adhesive strength that is malleable initially and then cures into a still somewhat flexible silicone/rubber - hence the reason I thought it could be perfect for this task.  If it works, it's unique. I sound like I'm doing a commercial but I haven't actuallly tried it yet.  I bought a cheap set of 3 minitubes but I don't know where I put them -- which isn't good, because the word appears to be that Sugru gets old even in the tubes so you don't want to buy last year's supply on clearance.  Somebody please take one for the team and report back...

I've only seen this used for statues, to fix and resculpt parts, so I'm interested as well if this would work.

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Moonbase Alpha Male

Moonbase Alpha Male
csyeung wrote:

I've only seen this used for statues, to fix and resculpt parts, so I'm interested as well if this would work.

Yeah, as advertised it is supposed to retain some permanent flexibility (like when it is used on headphone cables etc), and it is silicone based itself, so "theoretically" it should be even way better on a silicone body than on a resin statue. But the proof is in the pudding. Sorry I've been too busy (by which I mean, lazy) to experiment with it myself.


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98NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 - Page 3 Empty Re: NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 on Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:43 pm

gooboo


Phicen bodies aren't actually made of silicone however, they're technically made of TPE, so I'm not sure how strong the bond would ultimately be.

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Moonbase Alpha Male

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gooboo wrote:Phicen bodies aren't actually made of silicone however, they're technically made of TPE, so I'm not sure how strong the bond would ultimately be.

That's a good point, but Sugru isn't specifically made for Silicone, nor marketed that way, though it claims itself to be "Advanced Silicone Technology".  Those statues csyeung refers to aren't silicone either. Sugru claims that it "holds up to 4.4 lb (2 kg) on Glass, Ceramics, Wood, Metal, Plaster, most Plastics and Fabrics (and more), indoors and outdoors ."  But, don't believe everything you read.


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100NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 - Page 3 Empty Re: NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 on Wed Nov 25, 2020 8:57 pm

GubernatorFan

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No, Jiaou bodies are TPE, Phicen/TBLeague bodies are medical-grade silicon of some type. That said, silicone glue can be peeled off them, so silicone working on silicone is not necessarily going to be a permanent solution. I have used Sugru before, just not for this. Keeping the packets in the fridge supposedly extends their life.


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101NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 - Page 3 Empty Re: NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 on Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:11 pm

Moonbase Alpha Male

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GubernatorFan wrote:No, Jiaou bodies are TPE, Phicen/TBLeague bodies are medical-grade silicon of some type. That said, silicone glue can be peeled off them, so silicone working on silicone is not necessarily going to be a permanent solution. I have used Sugru before, just not for this. Keeping the packets in the fridge supposedly extends their life.

Well, not only is that a good functional suggestion, but if I'd put mine in the fridge, I'd know where they are now Smile

Again it sounds like Sugru doesn't particularly care if the attached material is silicone or not, so long as it's under 4.4 lbs of most things. Will be curious about anyone's experience. Then again, I wouldn't totally put it past TBL to eventually make a figure where the breasts are more than 4.4 lbs... Smile


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102NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 - Page 3 Empty Re: NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 on Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:14 pm

gooboo


In regards to the silicone/tpe question, this was something someone posted in a facebook group after asking someone at Phicen what materials their figures are made out of-

"Hi Harvey,
Sorry for replying late, busy with other things that I need to finish today, also honestly it's a tricky question.
It's TPE which is environmental and non-toxic, not silicon, but I found our early product introduction says silicon,
I believe that's some mistake we didn't mean to make, but it's a mistake that would and should be taken seriously.
------------------
Best regards
Jenny
PHICEN LIMITED"

Assuming that person didn't make this entire thing up, it sounds like Phicens aren't made with silicone either. At the very least I can say that silicone caulk wasn't permanent when I tried it on one of my figures, although it did a pretty good job sticking to it nonetheless. Just not permanently.

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GubernatorFan

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Hmmm... interesting. At least they owned up to contradicting themselves. But it is also not the same exact material (and surface) as the Jiaou Dolls, which are said to be TPE. Of course, there may be different kinds of TPE at play here.


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104NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 - Page 3 Empty Re: NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 on Wed Nov 25, 2020 9:49 pm

csyeung

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I've never bought a jiaou doll before. Are they more fragile?

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gooboo


Supposedly they rip and tear more easily. I've never had a Jiaou doll myself, but that's what I've read from others online.

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GubernatorFan

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csyeung wrote:I've never bought a jiaou doll before. Are they more fragile?

Somewhere I did a couple of comparison reviews (but of their older models), maybe on the old site. I will try to dig them up. In short:
Jiaou dolls are perhaps easier to stain, easier to scratch the surface (for example when painting with oil pastel), harder to pose (because they do not have a continuous metal skeleton, just metal joints, apparently), and can achieve slightly less articulation. The seamless-footed female figures have a hideous bulge at the ankle when you extend the foot down. The female figures come with painted finger- and toe-nails. The male figures come with an ampler and larger assortment of attachable "secret parts," not counting a tiny one that is part of the body's mold. The figures come heavily scented (perhaps it is in the protective powder), something TBLeague seems to have copied with a different scent at some point, but maybe gave up on. An advantage of the Jiaou Doll figures is that they come in several different skin tons, especially for the females (the males just three: pale/normal, wheat/medium tan, black/darker tan).

Here is a comparison photo I did of some Jiaou male and female bodies some time ago (since then they have produced newer models - one or two for female figures, not counting older ones with seamless feet, and two more for the males).
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csyeung

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Thanks for the detailed information Gubernator!

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rui


GubernatorFan wrote:Hmmm... interesting. At least they owned up to contradicting themselves. But it is also not the same exact material (and surface) as the Jiaou Dolls, which are said to be TPE. Of course, there may be different kinds of TPE at play here.
Anyone willing to do a flame test on their Phicen/TBL body (wasn't there a flayed one posted here)? Silicone shouldn't burn. You'd get maybe some ash.

Warning though, TPE will catch fire.

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GubernatorFan

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rui wrote:Warning though, TPE will catch fire.

LOL Makes me wish I hadn't gotten rid of the flayed experimental M31 -- I've kept the skeleton but got rid of the flayed flesh.


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110NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 - Page 3 Empty Re: NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 on Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:32 am

GeeWillikers

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The Jaiou female bodies are of generally inferior quality to TBL (even allowing for TBL's more recent manufacturing mis-steps) and their visual design hasn't really altered drastically since they entered the market (aside from their cartoonishly overdeveloped 'Euro' body). There certainly isn't anything approaching the same range of body types as TBL offer. They tend to deteriorate much more rapidly than TBL bodies too, even if maintained in exactly the same way. The skeleton cannot always hold poses as well as a TBL body, the limbs will slowly drop down if raised for example and this occurs more frequently as the body gets older and/or is posed/manipulated more often.

I don't know enough about the composition of the skin, but it certainly isn't the same material as TBL's bodies - it's more prone to tearing and permanent staining than whatever material TBL uses (certain staining has been shown to fade or become absorbed over time in TBL 'skin', while Jaiou bodies seem to remain permanently marked). They're also very difficult to keep clean, and the skin is prone to 'peeling' in very thin layers (like badly sunburnt skin does) which can make a figure look ugly very quickly where there is exposed skin.

They're an interesting but lesser alternative to TBL's models, which is why I imagine they are relatively cheaper. To be honest though about the only thing they have going for them is their wide range of skin tones, but compared to TBL's paltry binary choice, that's actually a big advantage. They're good to have at least one or two of to have as a counterpart to TBL's range or for head sculpts that won't match a TBL.

On the other hand their three male figure types seem to be a little more durable even though their build quality and materials seem to be the same. With one exception they're also a little less 'on steroids' than their TBL male counterparts, which is useful for less muscular figures. They're also significantly less expensive than their TBL counterparts.

Frankly, though, unless and until they make some major design advances in the female bodies I'm probably done buying those models. The new 'slim' body looks like a step in that direction but with TBL churning out bodytypes at the rate they currently are I'm in no hurry to buy one.

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GeeWillikers

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GubernatorFan wrote:
GeeWillikers wrote:I just can't get over how odd the S18 (basically their oldest 'modern' steel model given a tweak) now looks when directly compared to the 42, like an alien Grey reflected in a funhouse mirror. I've never been crazy about that short neck, off-kilter navel and too-prominent groin area, but it's sobering to now realise just how distorted that torso actually is after all these years. The derriere is just about it's best feature. That design needs a total overhaul once TBL are done with their busty/curvy obsession (which may well be never).

Interesting, there seems to be a bit of a pattern -- or at the very least they have done this elsewhere, too. I'm thinking about their M31 body, which is in many ways a darker-skinned version of M30, slightly un-muscled but basically stretched out to make it taller and slimmer. The result is neither attractive nor realistic (which is what they claimed they were going for), although, in a strange parallel to what you just described, its "derriere is just about its best feature." Smile Of course there are other reasons to dislike M31 (others have said I loathe it with a passion which is a slight exaggeration), like the spaghetti elbow (at least one of them), the anatomical incompleteness, and above everything else the faulty (especially left) wrist peg clamp (at least in my experience, this may have been corrected in later batches). Its one and only redeeming feature in my book is that it is their easiest male body to clothe (and as I was just clothing it the other day, the damned wrist peg came out with a hand and was a hellish pain to reattach).

Here was my review: http://www.mwctoys.com/REVIEW-062916b.htm

Oh definitely - I have one M31, and I certainly won't be getting any more in a hurry. I've never been troubled with the wrist issue you mention (at least not on that particular model), but yes that body is so ugly it's stayed clothed since Day Two. My biggest gripe is the bizarre chest sculpting and the weird arm-to-shoulder design (see the figure on the right in my avatar - just look at that crazy armpit). In fact that figure in my avatar is now swathed in a long t-shirt/jacket combo to hide that feature entirely. It's a shame about that poor design, as otherwise my particular one is a well-made figure.

I guess that M31 and the S01/02 (18/19) were early clumsy attempts at a more lean and elongated 'western/caucasian' body type designed by someone much more familiar with shorter Asian physiognomy, who wrongly assumed that all that was required was to elongate the torso. It's irritating because there are some nice features to both bodies and it's easy for us westerners to see where the improvements should be made (in the female's case, shorter torso or higher less 'thrusting' groin and longer legs, lower shoulders, slightly longer thinner neck, slightly shorter upper arms and wrists etc).

As for the figure in my avatar, as he's now kept fully-clothed I also bulked out his stomach with cotton wool and duct tape to make my own 'Fat Tony' type figure (The Worldbox Fat Man figure is great but I wanted 'chunky' rather than 'fat'). So long as those skinny arms are mostly covered, he looks fine.

112NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 - Page 3 Empty Re: NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 on Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:23 am

GubernatorFan

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GeeWillikers wrote:Oh definitely - I have one M31, and I certainly won't be getting any more in a hurry. I've never been troubled with the wrist issue you mention (at least not on that particular model), but yes that body is so ugly it's stayed clothed since Day Two. My biggest gripe is the bizarre chest sculpting and the weird arm-to-shoulder design (see the figure on the right in my avatar - just look at that crazy armpit). In fact that figure in my avatar is now swathed in a long t-shirt/jacket combo to hide that feature entirely. It's a shame about that poor design, as otherwise my particular one is a well-made figure.

I guess that M31 and the S01/02 (18/19) were early clumsy attempts at a more lean and elongated 'western/caucasian' body type designed by someone much more familiar with shorter Asian physiognomy, who wrongly assumed that all that was required was to elongate the torso. It's irritating because there are some nice features to both bodies and it's easy for us westerners to see where the improvements should be made (in the female's case, shorter torso or higher less 'thrusting' groin and longer legs, lower shoulders, slightly longer thinner neck, slightly shorter upper arms and wrists etc).

As for the figure in my avatar, as he's now kept fully-clothed I also bulked out his stomach with cotton wool and duct tape to make my own 'Fat Tony' type figure (The Worldbox Fat Man figure is great but I wanted 'chunky' rather than 'fat'). So long as those skinny arms are mostly covered, he looks fine.

I agree, although I don't know to what extent familiarity with common average racial physique played a role -- there was, after all, a long history of (jointed) bodies before this, and they made a specifically Asian-type body after this (M32), although its height makes it atypical. You hit the nail on the head: the vertically-elongated pecs and the placement of the nipples are particularly unrealistic. There are problems indeed with the armpit and elbow areas. I got several of the bodies when they first came out, and apparently ever one of them (as I realized the other day) has the loose grip on the left wrist peg problem -- so this may be something with their first batches. It is reparable, but not fully.

Also agree on the World Box "fat" body. It is good in its own way -- and nice to have the variety -- but its use for every heavier character (including "Fat Thor") often falls short of the mark. So there is still much to be said for expedients like the one you resorted to.


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bunnyfreakz

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Youtube video reviee. Not in English but you can see the body size incompatible with so many things.

The biggest drawback is thosse seamless feets.

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GubernatorFan

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Thank you, bunnyfreakz, makes sense.


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115NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 - Page 3 Empty Re: NEW PRODUCT: TBleague s42-s43 on Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:34 pm

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Thnaks for the link bunnyfreakz. (if you turn on the cc, it's in english)

I agree the biggest downside of these figures is finding appropriate clothing for them unless you are adept at creating custom tailored clothing. Fitting on available shoes will require toe /foot surgery!

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